Will Mail ever be the same again (new thread)?

I have the same question as asked by Lance who started this thread. The following was posted by Robin Turner:
Missing text from Sent messages
Posted: Aug 16, 2008 1:42 PM
"I have been experiencing some intermittent glitchy behavior using Apple Mail (v. 3.3). Occasionally (but not always) parts of my composed text, or quoted text from a previous message, or inserted text that I include within the quoted text from a previous message, gets omitted from the sent message. The entire message appears correctly in the Sent mailbox copy, but the BCC'd version that I receive in my Inbox may or may not be complete, as is the version received by the intended recipients. Usually the omitted bits are only a few words, but this is often enough to make part of the message uninterpretable by the receiver, or worse, changes the intended meaning completely. Someone advised me to try to save the message as a draft before sending, but this not seem to solve it. I have also tried re-installing Mail; I've tried erasing and recreating my user accounts; tried installing MacOS updates from downloaded "Combo" packs (instead of using Software Update). Nothing has worked. I have never experienced such problems using Mail on any of my other Macs (all PowerPCs & all running Tiger). I would appreciate any advice/insights.
Thanks,
Robin
iMac (intel) 24" (April 2008) Mac OS X (10.5.4)"
Many had the same problem. I regretfully abandoned Apple Mail v.3 for Thunderbird. I have since upgraded to Snow Leopard which came bundled with Apple Mail v.4. Does anybody know whether v.4 is reliable? I would like to use it again.

I don't know how to answer this -- I have 15 accounts, evenly divided between IMAP and POP, over 100,000 messages, and I have never experienced what you describe. I find Mail 4.x reliable, as did I also Mail 3.x.
My IMAP accounts are provided by Gmail, FreeMail, AOL and several that are associated with a hosted domain. Who is providing yours?
Ernie

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Will Mail ever be the same again?

There are lots of other threads about specific issues. I want to ask the über questions ...
There seems to be a plague of nightmares with Mail.app and/or Address Book under 10.6. I'm continuing to get the duplication issues when using POP. Someone suggested switching to IMAP, so I tried that ... only to find that Mail's dysfunctionality with IMAP made the POP issues look minor! Mail made such a hash of my e-mail on IMAP that I simply can't afford to stick with it for long enough to try out the range of possible fixes. (And I tried heaps of them a month ago in 10.6.2, with no success.) I could list off some examples, but I don't know where to start. It's simply flat broken as far as I can tell. My experience of using Mail pre-SL was just first class - and it can't have remained consistently blocks ahead in popularity over every other mac e-mail client, for nothing.
Does anyone have any idea whether Apple are really on top of the issue. We're now at 10.6.3, and nothing seems to have changed in my experience. Every OS update has mentioned various improvements to Mail in the release notes, so they're obviously working on Mail in some way. But all I know is that I've now had several months of tedious workarounds several times a day, just to deal with my e-mail. I have a bunch of Applescript-based functions that I rely on for organising my e-mail, and it would take me an age to reconfigure all that for another client. And wouldn't you think that Apple's own built-in client would be the last one to have these kinds of issues?
Frustrating .. infuriating .. all the words have been used before. Are we going to see an end to this? .. Does anyone have any clues that it will actually be fixed??!!

OK, well let's just agree to disagree on the question of whether I'm merely ranting or not. Here are the specifics ...
Background
I have 3 accounts:
• my main one with Mail.com, which has recently switched to using the AOL servers (so it could be described as an AOL account +in effect+ ). I use this for nearly everything.
• my ISP e-mail account with OptusNet (Australia)
• a Gmail account, which I basically use for spam reporting
I've had the former two unchanged for 10 years, and I added the Gmail one about 4 years ago.
Until just the past month I've only ever used POP for all these accounts. It's worked largely flawlessly for years through successive OSX versions, starting from 10.2.
I began trying out IMAP a month ago at a friend's suggestion, with the Mail.com & Optusnet accounts but not the Gmail. I haven't seriously used IMAP so don't know a lot about it. Tried it twice in the past few weeks, both times with bad results - so switched back to POP. Having finally figured out what IMAP is and does, I would like to use it in future, rather than POP. But it's not a functional possibility just now (due to the issues I'm raising here ... )
_E-mail software_
I use a combination of Mail.app, Purify (for spam filtering & reporting) & a bunch of Applescripts that link the two. I've been using that combination at least since 10.4 days - again largely flawlessly. In the most recent versions of Purify incoming mail is processed as follows: Get Messages with Mail.app >> a rule triggers an Applescript >> the script sends the message(s) to Purify >> Purify rates them as HAM or SPAM >> the script sends spams to junk box.
I've only ever had Mail configured to delete downloaded messages from server immediately.
_Developments since installing 10.6_
POP
As soon as I upgraded to 10.6.0 I (along with a sizeable minority of others) began getting huge numbers of duplicate messages. In my case it happened with the Mail.com & Optusnet accounts, but never the Gmail. It happened with all spam and many ham messages, seemingly randomly.
Attempted solutions:
• restart Mail
• restart computer
• repair permissions
• rebuild mailboxes
• delete and recreate POP accounts
• delete file "MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded3" (including an Automator script to do this every hour)
• trash file "com.apple.mail.plist" and re-configure settings
.... Some of these made no difference at all. Others would fix the issue for up to a day, but then it would be back.
Eventually, with help from this forum, I identified the best workaround:
• after every mail download, select "Get account info" for each account
• select any messages already-downloaded (but still on the server with blue dots beside them)
• click button "remove from server"
... Works, but very tedious
Then came 10.6.2 ... After that, a lot of (but still not all) other people seemed to have the issue resolved. That was not my experience. However I did note that it now happened exclusively with messages rated by Purify as spam (and therefore moved to the junk box). Still with Mail.com & Optusnet accounts, and still not with Gmail. The same continues now with 10.6.3 - no change.
IMAP
As I said above, I just started trying out IMAP at a friend's suggestion. But it just hasn't worked at all, so both times I've reverted back to POP very quickly. I tried it once about a month ago, and once again just yesterday after the 10.6.3 update. From a bit of googling, it does appear a lot of other folks are having big issues with IMAP since moving to 10.6. My particular issues:
• horrendously slow processing, with beachballing and resulting need to force quit
• Applescript timeouts attempting to run Purify filtering
• new messages disappearing entirely
• taking forever to rebuild mailboxes (and still not right when done)
• mailboxes out of sync with server ( e.g. 'good' messages appearing in inbox in webmail, but in junkbox in Mail)
... In short, totally unuseable (and that's not an exaggeration)
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Hello Jigz19,
It sounds like you are unable to play a couple of songs from your library becuase you get a message that the computer is unauthorized to play, but other content purchased that same day works without issue. I would verify that the affected songs were purchased with the same Apple ID first:
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http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1920
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5772
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http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2519
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Hi,
I have several acocunts all retrieving mail from various servers.
Yesterday changed a configuration from one server to stop automatically forwarding e-mail to another server and, instead, just have mail retrieve the messages directly from that box.
Now, for some inexplicable reason, mail keeps retriving the same messages stored on each server everytime it logs in. I know have up to 4 - 6 copies of some messages in both mail boxes for these two servers. I have re-examined all my settings and they are as they should be.
I fanally trashed all old mail on the servers (there was over 1500 from the past week on one which was continuosly being downloaded.)
What could possible be causing it? How do I fix it?
Thanks.
G5 1.6Gz Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Never mind about the Junk Folder missing. I found out about that.
Still receiving the duplicate e-mails though.
Thanks for your help. Please read comments below.
Hi Matthew.
For POP accounts, Mail uses a file within the
account
folder to keep track of which messages have
already
been downloaded. That file may have become corrupt
or
the data stored there may have become invalid for
some reason.
You may try deleting that file so that Mail
creates
it anew, but that will also cause Mail to treat
everything still on the server as if new
and
try to download it again:
1. Quit Mail.
2. In the Finder, go to the
~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/
account folder.
3. Locate one or two files named
MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded and move them
to
the Trash. Mail 1.x used
MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded
to keep track of which messages had already been
downloaded. Mail 2.x uses
MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded2 for the same
purpose.
Alternatively, you may try clicking Remove
now
in Preferences > Accounts > Advanced, which
should both remove from the server the messages
that
Mail thinks have already been downloaded and reset
MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded.
I tried both of these messages. No luck. I finally
jsut set one of the accounts to immediately delete
the message once it has retrieved it from the server,
though that takes away a certain piece of mind that
it exists in two places at least for a weel.
Anyway. Niw my Junk mail folder has disappeared. I
had it set to train and this morning when I opened
mai it asked if I wanted it to change to automatic.
I said yes and went about looking at new mails.
There qere a lot of junk mail not beeing tagged as I
began to use command-shift-j to mark this messages,
the first few turned brown as they should. The, all
of a sudden, messages started disappearing. When I
looked for the Junk Mail folder on the left, it was
gone! I still have no idea where it is. I spent the
afternoon backing up an d running Disk Warrior. But
Junk didn't return. Any clues? (Possibly this
should be a new thread)
BTW, what are your Preferences > Accounts >
Advanced > Remove copy from server settings?
I had them set to be removed after a week. No I have
one removing them as they are retrieved. This
computer's been running like that for 3 years. Not
sure gremlin has gotten into the works but it's
frustrating as ****.
Note: For those not familiarized with
the
~/ notation, it refers to the user’s home
folder, i.e. ~/Library is the Library
folder
within the user’s home folder.

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That's what I thought.... Although when I log on to Mobile Me through the internet the sender's name there appears just like it does in my address book, so I thought there would be a way to set it in mail.

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