Will MaxDB beat Oracle and SQLserver in the market?

Somebody tells me that eventually MaxDB will dominate the market.
I do not believe. Do you agree? Thanks!

Hi Lars;
and at first, thanks a bunch for the well-put reply.
>
> But to be serious - putting MaxDB into the solution stack and not as a product is a business decision.
> It's not about technical ability, feature set or something like that.
Yes. I am fully aware of this. It seems the case in most of these situations, and, as I stated, eventually business decisions and strategic decisions are just to be taken as granted.
> Depends on what "beneficial" really means.
> SAP does have agreements and partnerships with all the important DBMS vendors.
> These companies have whole LOBs just for the database product.
> They make money from it.
> And they may be annoyed to have another competitor on the scene.
That, for sure, sounds reasonable. But, from that point of view, of course (not wanting to be provocative): If not wanting to be into the database market after all, having partnerships with all major database vendors, and eventually having a load of open source databases out there to build upon for those who don't want Oracle, why bother maintaining "another" custom DBM system after all? This seems somewhat ambivalent.
> SAP does not do this. SAP does not sell programs. SAP sells business solutions.
> That's where our money comes from - providing solutions to every customers business so that the customer can make better business.
Yes... Yesss. That's what I see, and that's what we want. We don't really care about buying a piece of DBMS software. Our business is to offer services based upon software, some being third-party code (be that open source or proprietary), some being developed or at least customized in-house. DBMS is something we see as a basic service which just "should be there" without having to bother that much. In most cases (Oracle, DB2, or also mySQL) it is not like this - one has to deal with buying licenses, with education to dig deep into the guts of these systems, and then the "real work" just starts. MaxDB does rather good here leaving this "getting-started" hurdle rather low. And for the rest, at least from our point of view, MaxDB service (support, on-demand custom training, help in performance tuning, ...) on top of this indeed seems a "business solution", thus no contradiction to what SAP business is all about...
I think you are basically right about database market being saturated relating to DBMS as "boxed products". However, the "other" market (free or open source "product" along with enterprise strength support on top for those who want / need it) so far mainly seems dominated by mySQL and, to some degree, postgreSQL. Not sure whether this is (yet?) an actual market, though. Maybe the acquisition of Sun by Oracle and, subsequently, the fact of mySQL being at stake to some degree could be an option for MaxDB to attract more users...
> One example: remote access to the database systems and the analysis tools of the SAP NetWeaver CCMS.
> Both of them are crucial for the day to day support for MaxDB/liveCache work we do for SAP customers.
> Without them, support becomes slow, cost intensive (for us) and difficult.
> Since SAP customers do have all this infrastructure it's easy to offer them support for a MaxDB that is used for something else.
I see... I also can imagine that supporting MaxDB used for something, well, eventually "unfamiliar" (unknown application / table structure, unknown user infrastructure, ...) is rather more difficult than, say, supporting it for a bunch of well-known applications and environments. From this point, the most straightforward (and eventually only?) way seems a "rent-an-engineer" kind of support approach - have someone visit your site for a couple of days to look around things, to look at what's there and try evaluating what could be wrong / improved / ... . But indeed maybe this is beyond the scope of SAP business approach...
> Personally I do of course see that there is some interest from the "Open Source" users for such an offering.
> I also see that there are constraints to the development of MaxDB that maybe wouldn't be so tight if this would be a product on its own (there are really only a few people developing it, compared with other DBMS vendors...)
Or, another way 'round, if people would have paid more attention... Remembering the "dual licensing experiment" of MaxDB < 7.6 beind distributed by mySQL AB, I kinda hoped MaxDB attracting a couple of open source developers to participate in development and, eventually, "adopt" the source code and help driving forth MaxDB as something like a "corporate backed open source" project. Obviously, it didn't seem to work out this way, if it was intended to be like this at all...
> DISCLAIMER:
As usual when talking about SAP business strategy, these are my personal thoughts and views and in no way any kind of official statement of SAP.
Acknowledged.
Cheers,
Kristian
Edited by: Kristian Rink on May 28, 2009 9:29 AM
Edited by: Kristian Rink on May 28, 2009 9:30 AM

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