Will one day "ipod with dock connector" be able to be charged by USB cable?

Hi,
this question has just popped into my mind
a moment ago. it might be very useful if
one day they'll grant us to be able to do that.
but if this request seemed to be too far
from hardware capability, i'd stop thinking
about it.
could anyone give me a clue? any support teams?
Thanks,
p/s hope i'd called my ipod right, it's the
one with four buttons outside the wheel, and
it is not a clickwheel one. "ipod with dock
connector" right? :] thank you again

Hi Kenekeu
I just wanted to chime in and bump this thread. Although I've posted here several times about this exact problem, with no solution found yet, and no response from Apple. I tried rebooting into windows (via bootcamp) and reformatting my ipod from there. However when I downloaded the older version of the ipod updater, i was told that it was expired and a newer version was available (sigh). So I now have a windows formatted ipod that still won't connect via firewire.
I am still able to mount and transfer songs via USB in mac OSX. Luckily I had one of those dual usb/firewire cables, which plugs into the plug charger via firewire, and into the computer via USB at the same time, so my ipod doesn't lose charge.
Hopefully there'll be a fix soon, because this is really frustrating. I've had this ipod for a couple years, and was always proud that it lasted this long... and now this.

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A 15GB iPod would have to be a 3rd gen iPod. It has a touch (not click) wheel with four touch buttons in a row that glow orange during use, correct? That model needs to be connected using FireWire, because it cannot charge over USB.
If your new Mac has a Thunderbolt port, you can get an adapter for FireWire
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD464ZM/A/apple-thunderbolt-to-firewire-adapte r
plus an adapter for FireWire 800 to FireWire 400
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/FIR1369AD/
Another way, if you have the square white FireWire power adapter that came with your iPod, is to get a special docking cable that Apple used to sell a long time ago. It has both USB and FireWire connectors. Here's a listing for a third-party version on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Vanco-iPod-Dock-Connector-to-1-USB-1-FireWire-Cable-/2 71074766489?pt=US_MP3_Player_Chargers_Cradles&hash=item3f1d50ae99
(Search on "FireWire USB iPod docking cable" to see other listings.)
What you do with this thing is plug the USB connector to your Mac's USB port, the FireWire connector to the FireWire power adapter, and the dock connector to the iPod. iPod can then sync over USB while getting power over FireWire.
I would go with that special cable, to avoid using a series of adapters (which adds complexity and unreliability) and tying up the valuable Thunderbolt port for just your iPod.

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My ipod freezes up whenever it is disconnected from the computer. The Ok to disconnect doesn't go away. If I perform a reset, the apple logo doesn't disappear. I have restored my ipod many times to no avail. I can synch songs to it, and even play them off the ipod when its attatched to the computer if i use (gasp!) realplayer. I can put it in disk mode and hook it up to the computer, itunes seems to think the ipod is ok. I'm not gonna spend 250 bucks to fix this thing, can anyone help? It seems like it still works, it just hangs up on something.

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My iPod from 2003 with dock connector is not getting charged in my car by using the griffin iTrip with USB car charger. iTrip works, but not the charger. Maybe there´s not enough power output from the car charger? Only 5.0V with 400mA are coming out. iPod needs more? 12V with 1.0A?
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Has Apple dropped support for older model iPods?
Nope. Support is still there, even back to the original 1G iPod with the wheel that actually turns. I have a 3G iPod, and it syncs just fine. There have not been any software updates for years, but the old software still works fine with the latest iTunes.
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1363
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Hi Kenekeu
I just wanted to chime in and bump this thread. Although I've posted here several times about this exact problem, with no solution found yet, and no response from Apple. I tried rebooting into windows (via bootcamp) and reformatting my ipod from there. However when I downloaded the older version of the ipod updater, i was told that it was expired and a newer version was available (sigh). So I now have a windows formatted ipod that still won't connect via firewire.
I am still able to mount and transfer songs via USB in mac OSX. Luckily I had one of those dual usb/firewire cables, which plugs into the plug charger via firewire, and into the computer via USB at the same time, so my ipod doesn't lose charge.
Hopefully there'll be a fix soon, because this is really frustrating. I've had this ipod for a couple years, and was always proud that it lasted this long... and now this.

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Here are some pointers, in case you don't know the obvious. I got my iPod used, and I did not receive a setup guide. I learned a few very basic things THE HARD WAY. I could not get it to even SHOW UP in
iTunes or
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You know, I had my CD's all in a box and ready to mail the thing back to the guy (a friend) who sold it to me and see if he could find a way to load it up. And the wall plug fell off the cable purely by chance as I was packing it up and boxing it to ship, and when I went to reconnect the dock cable to the plug, I realized it was a FireWire connector. Beauty mate !

True... The 3G iPod is designed to work with FireWire. Once it is charged up and set up for Mac, it may work over USB for data syncing, but it will not charge over USB (so you cannot use the Restore button in iTunes). You can use it with USB and charge at the same time (and also do the Restore procedure), if you get one of these two-ended docking cables.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9688G/A
The USB end connects to the computer. The FireWire end connects to the power adapter (and supplies the power). But if you have FireWire on the computer, use FireWire.
There is also an eject button next to the iPod name under DEVICES. Also, if you UNcheck the +Enable disk use+ option for the iPod (in the iPod's iTunes pane), the +Do not disconnect+ message should go away as soon as the iPod is done syncing. The iPod will not appear on the Finder Desktop, and you can safety disconnect it without manually ejecting the iPod first.

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Hey everyone ~ I have an iPod 15gb (with dock connector)... yes one of the really old ones when they first came out. I think somehow I have downloaded a virus on it. Do any of you know how I can get rid of it, just short of getting rid of my iPod? When I connect it to my laptop through the Firewire card it crashes my computer. The firewire card is fine as it normally stays in the wireless card port all of the time. Recently I have gotten some new music and have downloaded and it copied it onto my iTunes, but when I go to add it to my iPod it crashes.
Any help is greatly appreicated.
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I highly doubt it has a virus, as viruses must be written for a specific device and to my knowledge there are no viruses written for iPods. On top of that, you would have had to install the virus, furthering proof that this is highly unlikely.
Maybe its logic board became corrupt, so it isn't connecting to iTunes properly, and freezes it.

Do iPod 40GBs with dock connector support VBR?

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Then the review(s) that are currently on the Apple Store website are bogus, which is exactly what I was afraid of. Don't people realize that putting fake reviews of products on the internet does nothing to help people, and in fact, does only harm?
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