Will OSX Tiger on a Quicksilver boot from a 300 g HD

I have a few issues going and for background you can go to this post
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=278373&tstart=0
But I have 4 internal HDs. And my Powermac Dual 800 will only boot from either the CD or the Tiger OS on my 80 gig installed directly to the Motherboard. I have three drives installed on a Sonnet Trio. The sizes are 300/300/160. None of them are partitioned into smaller volumes.All are recognized as correct size but whenever I install Tiger onto them the Machine will not restart to them. They will sometimes (after a PMU or PRAM reset) power up them but will not restart to them. UGH This has been a 4 day investigation. Any help in either this thread or the linked one above would be great. Man if Steve wasnt speaking on January 9th I would have already just ordered a new mac...But I have learned to wait till after these announcements.
PMac Dual 800, 1 gig RAM,80/60gig HD, SDrive Mac OS X (10.4.3)

So why not just put the 300 on the main IDE bus attached to the logic board, and move the 80GB to the card???

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