Will Referenced Libraries Sync Changes

I know this is a newbie question, but I haven't been able, for whatever reason, to find a solid answer. I'm in the midst of moving over to Aperture but I'm doing it slowly and incrementally, perhaps too cautiously. My question is this:
If I import an iPhoto library as a referenced library into Aperture 3 will the changes I make in Aperture be reflected in the iPhoto library? So, if I change the name of a photo in Aperture will it also be changed in iPhoto? What about the other way around, say merging an event in iPhoto. Will that be synced to Aperture?

I suppose my caution is due to having updates screw things up in the past and having to spend days untangleing and restoring.
Better safe than sorry! Aperture has a steep learning curve, and it is very advisable to get familiar with the basic concept and to plan the design of the Aperture Library carefully, before investing to much work into a poorly designed Library.
The iPhoto library will be a separate A3 Library. I figure I will eventually make 3-5 libraries.
In iPhoto it was necessary to have several Libraries, because it is not dedesigned to cope with very large libraries. One of the big advantages of Aperture is, that it is capable to hold all of your images in one single Library, without noticable loss of performance.
My Aperture Library holds all my images, startig 1970.  So it is easy to use the organizational features of Aperture to build smart albums with different criteria for your complete stock of images. I have smart albums showing sunsets, lions, bridges, landscape shots, computer graphics, etc.
If you split your library you will loose the advantage to combine any image with all other images in albums, books, or slideshows, without gaining any advantage.
To structure your projects thematically, group them by putting related projects into folders.
Regards
Léonie

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