Will subtle banding in gradient print?

I apologize for yet another topic about gradients and banding, however i could not find a reassuring answer to my question.
As you can see, my gradient created in InDesign shows (subtle) banding on screen, both in InDesign as in Acrobat.
I know capable RIPs handle gradients in way that's optimized for the device to prevent banding as good as possible. But... are RIPs capable of producing better results than adobe's screen rendering?
What's the best way?
1. Trust the RIP, and send the pdf with "real" gradients (smooth shades are they called i believe) in the pdf.
OR
2. Recreate the gradient in Photoshop with dither, which makes it look perfect on screen.
The printer handles files up to pdf1.7, so assume their RIP is capable of optimizing smooth shades.

I got the results of the prints. The printed versions look almost identical, but there is a noticible difference:
The real gradient:
- shows banding on screen
- shows NO banding in print! The gradient looks really clean.
The photoshop dithered gradient:
- looks better on screen (no banding)
- no banding in print either, but a VERY subtle noise (the dither) is visible
Conclusion (with this printer anyway): leave the gradient as a gradient!

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Banding.. yes banding in gradients

First of all Im not here to waste your time. I have read pretty much every thread on here about banding in gradients and there is no solution for my problem.
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I experience awful banding in almost every gradient I do. It doesn't matter what the colors are. It happens more so in darks.
I cannot rasterize my work, so I can't do the gradients in PS, I can't add noise, etc. I am currently working on something that will later be resized for an art show. I work 100% in vector and unfortunetly, it has to stay that way.
Here is an example of what I'm working with. The darks.. the banding is horrid.
Ive tried re-setting my screen profile, but Ive had people on other computers tell me that they can see the banding.
I've tried RGB vs CMKY..
I mean, I really am at an end. Most of my work is viewed digitally, but I do need it to look good in print.
I wouldn't waste your time, I have spent the last week all over the internet trying to find a solution. I would think that these simple gradients would be possible in such a high end program I paid hundreds for, but really?!
Im near tears because I mean, this is my art. I just hate that it looks so terrible.
I thank ANYONE for their help, this is becoming such an issue for me.

any updates on this?
I noticed the gorgeous tones on the splash screens too, and would like to reproduce that softness...
I get what JET is saying, but I get the banding too on even just 2 similiar tones less than 12 inches apart. But from what Jet is saying I assume he means that the screen visual is not the same as the printing outcome and does not indicate the printing outcome.
a cheap or poor screen may show banding, but printed to a 5 thousand dollar printer may come out smooth when the vector is rasterized at 300 DPI on an A4 page.
I have banding on a photoshop image here actually, but I have seen lots of artwork with smooth creamy gradients or tonal blends painted on figures in character artwork, pinups and illustrations, or how to recreate the look of the opening splash screens of the software, wish I knew how to do that, i`m using a wacom bamboo with low opacity and brush pressure determines opacity in photoshop.
here is a black to transparent gradient layed over a flat mid gray layer. 10cm long. just showing you that the screen banding is not specific to only illustrator. using PS CS5 here.
same issue goes for brushes, here I used the largest softest default brush to fill this shape, still creates streaking.

Banding in gradients with Pavilion 22xi

I have been using a new Pavilion 22xi for a couple of weeks, and color settings remain problematic after much trial and error. My primary concern at this point is the significant banding in gradients. It's difficult for me to imagine that this would be considered expected performance, but thus far I have not been able to significantly reduce it.
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Looking at your PDF it's difficult to tell exactly what's happening. I've had banding problems, however, in similar situations passing Illustrator files through Photoshop to be converted to high-resolution JPEGs for a very specific printer. Essentially, the file looks fine in Illustrator and fine in Photoshop until one significantly raises the white levels. The banding which then appears is very similar to the banding which appears upon printing. Can you see the errors in your file before they're printed? Or, only after printing?
Here's a couple thoughts... save Illustrator file as hi-res PDF. Use CS4 High-Quality Print presets. Open in Photoshop, rasterize at 300dpi in PS's opening dialog box. Flatten and save as TIFF, etc. for printing. May solve the problem.
Another setting to experiment with which may do nothing (and may cause the sky to fall) is to check your presets for Color Settings. Try setting Conversion Options > Intent > to Perceptual. This may make some users howl as Relative Colorimetric is the default setting for many users. However, it's been said to me that Perceptual is the correct setting to avoid banding in images with large gradients.
For more information on the differences between the two, check out: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/color-space-conversion.htm
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Can rendering from Motion reduce banding on gradients in graphics?

I have created a 50-minute animated movie, the visuals all rendered from Flash Professional 8 in the Animation codec. They look stunning. Clean & beautiful with no banding or artifacts of any kind.
I edited the movie in FCP 4 using the DV sequence preset and output as DV NTSC. The finished product is mostly gorgeous but has some colour halos and noticeable banding in the gradients I would like to eliminate.
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I'm sure impressed with all the responses. Thank you.
As my original question had to do with buying Motion for the float rendering, I didn't give you enough detail to solve my problem in Flash & FCP4.
At least half of the gradients are in the foreground and the 3d renders, so compositing over a background won't help. I have tried all the high rez codecs and had the same problem. Sorry about wasting your time.
I have found an acceptable solution that might be worth noting.
The problem was in rendering it as a self-contained movie from FCP4. I had overlooked the CUSTOM setting under Export as QuickTIme which allowed me to ouput a REFERENCE MOVIE in ANIMATION codec ( I had previously tried outputting a reference movie in uncompressed 8&10bit but that made the actual real life DV footage in the movie terribly jittery).
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