Win 7 or 8 with a new W530?

Hidy ho.
I realize that no one can make this decision for me, but I'd greatly appreciate input from users savvier than I.
I've been running Win XP on an old Dell these last seven years, and it's time for a new laptop. Am on the Lenovo site now, customizing a W530 prior to purchase.
Win 7 or Win 8? That's the question. Lenovo offers Win 7 at no extra cost, and I've read and heard that the OS is mature and stable.
Or should I take the Nestea Plunge and go with Win 8? Apart from the unintuitive learning curve, are there other reasons to postpone the inevitable?
I should add that I'm not big on upgrading the OS during the life of the machine. Whatever comes with this laptop is what I'll likely be using for the next six or seven years.
Thanks kindly for your thoughts!
Brooks
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Djembe wrote:
Windows 7.....By the time you need to upgrade the W530.....most of the issues people currently have with Windows 8 will have been worked out.
Excellent point. Thanks, Djembe.
SSDee wrote:
I see no motivation to migrate to Windows 8. I guess it all depends on your purpose.
Mundane tasks, SSDee: Office work, email, sound and photo editing — nothing I haven't been able to do effortlessly with XP.
Win 7 it is, then. Thanks to both of you for helping me think clearly!
Brooks

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The partition is still there but the wizard won't start up again so I can't give it another shot.
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Hello and welcome,
There may be a way to re-enable the recovery creation process. There was with older machines. I don't know what the current situation is, but others may chime in.
The best course might be to call support and request the recovery media. I can't speak for Lenovo, but it's common for them to be sent free in this situation.
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