Win 8.1 update with MSI GX70 issues

Hello people.
I recently updated my MSI GX70-3BE from win 8 to win 8.1 pro (update from store, not clean install), along with numbers of new driver supplied by MSI (VGA, SCM, killer network, etc.) and BIOS (w8_E176KAMS.50D) + EC (w8_176KEMS1.505)
Now I notice 2 problems after the update
1. Bluetooth headphone won't connect if I turn bluetooth off and on from SCM window, and my headphones also disappeared from playback device in control panel > sound. This never happened when I was using win 8. The ways to reconnect with any bluetooth device again are, first, disable then re-enable "Realtek Bluetooth 4.0+High Speed Chip" in Device Manager, another way to do the job is to restart the machine. This is very annoying because I can't use SCM alone to turning bluetooth on/off.
PS. I use SCM from windows 8 as the new one for win 8.1 doesn't has trackpad control, but tried both version and still get the problem
2. Just after I updated Bios and EC, I used Samsung magician to observed my SSD (samsung 840 pro 128GB) but it shown that my SSD is running in Sata II 3Gbs/s which never happened (again) in Win 8. I also used other program to see if it's running only 3 Gb/s and benchmark results dropped by half from those with Win 8. I tried to updated firmware&EC and AMD catalyst control but that didn't help.
Does anybody ever experienced anything like this?? Please help. Any suggestion is welcome.
Thanks you

This is really the first I've seen any issues regarding this. The bluetooth is especially strange. The best I can say regarding that issue is to contact MSI about it.
>>How to contact MSI.<<
The Samsung 840 Pro was very troublesome on most of the GT60/GT70 notebooks, as it wouldn't run at SATA3 speeds on those, at all, ever. No matter what Firmware/BIOS/EC or driver you used, it just wouldn't work. No one ever figured out why, most just shy'ed away from using it because it was a problem and didn't perform as well over time compared to other drives. Perhaps try checking in the bios to see what it's recognized as before Windows boots to see if it shows up at SATA3 or SATA2 speeds?

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-------------- Original message --------------
Dear Aicjofs
This is MSI technical support engineer from Taiwan.
We receive some message from MSI LA office & Anandtech.com.
We are sorry for inconvinence experience when you try to Overclock MS-7100.
We hope to contact with you directly and help you to solve it.
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Technical Support Engineer
Technical Support Department
E-mail: msi.com.tw
[Post edited by Glenn]

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its really annoying and makes trying to listen and remember pronunciation of words difficult and frustrating. Phone was ok before Microsoft Windows 8.1 update now have this issue and issue with static build-up causing popping when fast forwarding through
videos. :( I am feed up
Conclusion:
This is software bug? please can anyone help/advise me on how to fix this and if anyone else is having same glitch with 8.1 update :(
All I can think of to fix is to somehow downgrade to Windows 8 if that's possible? :( *update its not possible using Nokia Recovery as it puts back Win 8.1.
It is a Software bug introduced in Windows Phone 8.1 update. It effects everything! including
Microsofts own Video Xbox App and
Photo App. See other people frustrations on this issue, its been going on since April!!!! please can you fix this is ruining my Windows Phone experience:
MICROSOFT / NOKIA SEE LINKS TO VIDEO OF SOUND POPPING ISSUE BELOW !!!!!
http://forums.wpcentral.com/ask-question/296892-popping-sound-when-navigating-through-media-lumia-1520-a.html
http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8-1-preview-developers/278439-must-read-lumia-920-owners-running-8-1-whatsapp.html
Microsoft need to fix this Video Popping urgently, I have tired to want to like Windowsphone but they keep going backwards and I am loosing faith.
If is not fixed soon i.e next few months I will never buy a Windows phone again and will recommend the same to friends and family. I had so much hope and expectation for 8.1 update :( love the Notification bar and battery icon but I can't live with
all this. :(

Hello,
You should ask in the
Windows Phone forums on the Microsoft Community forums.
As the Microsoft Community is on a different platform, we cannot move the question for you.
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Win 8 Monthly Update - T430S WAN Miniport Problem

The May 2013 monthly update for Windows 8 leaves a Device Manager error, as well as an error message in Lenovo Solution Center. Four T430S machines receive push updates published by Microsoft every 2nd Tuesday of the month. After this month's push updates, all machines have the same WAN Miniport error in Device Manager.
2 machines were restored to before the May 2013 push updates, and the error went away. Unfortunately, out of the 13 or so updates, the one that appears to be causing the problem is a major update to the OS. However, the push updates do not cause any errors with T61Ps.
Unforutunately, the WAN Miniport cannot be uninstalled. It is part of the network stack. So far, the only way to avoid the problem is to disable Win 8 push updates on T430S machines.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

The T430S machines have Intel Ultimate-N 6300 AGN WLAN cards with 3 antennas.
A few months back, there were intermittitent issues with WLAN connectivity. Oddly, the signal strength was strong, but with intermittent internet access. After r&r (removing and replacing) with a new WLAN card from Lenovo, it did not fix the intermittent WLAN connectivity issues.
The WLAN connectivity issues were isolated to weak wireless N internet access performance from the Intel wireless AGN driver. Changing the wireless N channels at the router improved performance marginally (BTW, N channels have different power requirements that affect performance.) However, internet access was still intermittent.
Wireless N WLAN performance dramatically improved when the router was physically 10-15 feet away at most. Since this was not practical, the best work around was to disconnect the machine from the wireless N network and setup a wireless G network at the router. Since then, the range has been excellent with no intermittent connectivity issues.
So far, machines with KB2836988 have not affected wireless G connectivity and performance. Apparently, if you unhide the devices in Device Manager, KB2836988 created a second WAN Miniport for Network Monitoring #2. The second WAN Miniport is the device with the error. From my earlier post, the only was to get rid of the error is to do a system restore to a point before the May 2013 push updates and manually hide KB2836988.
I plan on doing a system restore on another T430S machine to get rid of the error. This time I am going to try and hide all of the other updates except for KB2836988. I am hoping by isolating the KB2836988 as the first push update, I can get rid of the WAN Miniport error. If all goes well, the other updates will be installed afterwards.

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