Win 8: bootcamp or EFI install?

Im ready to try win 8.
Should I go old way with bootcamp or straight EFI? Ive read that going EFI might lead to driver issues, especially nvidia stuff. Is that true?
Which one should I pick?

Hello timelover
If you use Boot Camp to install Windows 8 it will ensure that you will get all the appropriate drivers after you install Windows to make sure that all the hardware works for you.
Boot Camp: Frequently asked questions about installing Windows 8
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5628
Regards,
-Norm G.

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[SOLVED] Almost succesfully EFI install. Error: unable det.... root..

Hello
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Last edited by Alber (2012-07-17 11:59:32)

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# <file system> <dir> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid 0 0
UUID=dc65138c-aa2c-45aa-ba83-71be6b9a51d6 / ext4 defaults 0 1
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BSD: not present
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Logical sector size: 512 bytes
Disk identifier (GUID): 72D56917-9541-4E03-B6E6-CFFCC5449557
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It could be that firmware was getting another disk. So I'll change hd1 to hd2 or hd0.
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NO, it wasn't
Last edited by Alber (2012-07-13 11:36:46)

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