Windows 7 64 bit on Early Mac Pro

I finally got Win 7 64 bit installed on early Mac Pro. However, I have one significant issue remaining. I have an Apple Cinema 23 connected via ADC to DVI adapter; my video card is a Nvidia Quadro FX 4500. I can boot into Safe Mode without problem since the video card is recognized as a basic VGA monitor. When I boot into "normal" startup, I see the Starting Windows logo but the screen turns black when it boots into the Win 7 OS. The boot up is successfull since I can shut down normally with the keyboard. ( I should mention I have had no problems running Vista 32 bit--no display problems.) In device manager, no problem is shown with the Nvidea driver.
Any suggestions to solve my problem?? Thanks.

Are you able to - and is there a Windows 7 WHQL driver?
I know in the past automatic Windows Update wasn't trusted or the best, though I think with 7RC that is changed, but getting the standalone driver installed would be best bet.
And, you probably want/need to uninstall any driver that was installed, whether by Apple or Microsoft, and use one from Nvidia.
Driver Sweeper 2.0 is also strongly recommended to delete and remove drivers after uninstall, while in Safe Mode on next boot, before installing new drivers - especially if having trouble. Might even want to disconnect from 'net to prevent auto update/install for that.
PS: what keyboard shortcut to shutdown works? I need that one.

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Help Installing Windows 7 64 Bit on Early Mac Pro

As previously noted, Wind 7 RC 64 bit DVD will not boot on early Mac Pro. I installed Win 7 64 bit on a dedicated hard drive as follows: 1) I booted into Vista 64bit successfully 2) I installed Win 7 64 bit on a second black disk, as noted above 3)All files installed correctly I think since Win 7 will begin to boot showing the Windows 7 startup screen 4) However, the startup screen will then disappear and the screen goes black, indicating a failed boot. When I engage the option screen (with primary Mac drive installed) during boot, no Windows disk is shown, indicating that boot camp does not recognize the Win 7 disk as a valid startup drive.
Has anyone successfully installed Win 7 64 bit on an early Mac Pro?? I would appreciate any help in accomplishing this. Also, is there any reason Apple has not provided an EFI firmware update for first generation MacPros?

Burn a DVD with Windows 7 RC 32-bit which you can boot from.
Try Safe Boot also.
From Vista you can install 7 on another hard drive. You can also copy the DVD to 6GB partition and run the install setup off that while in Vista.
Mixing ATI and Nvidia probably still doesn't work (may when 7 ships).
Windows is more aware of disk I/O errors than Mac OS.
Keep your system basic, don't have anything connected or installed you don't need (like PCIe controllers).
Vista SP1 or later, 64-bit also looks for EFI64/UEFI 2.x which causes the "Choose 1 or 2" boot menu and which 2008 Mac Pro (and 2009) work with.
You aren't the first or only person to run into this, and there are people running on 2006 Mac Pro.
http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=86
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1866970&tstart=0

Windows 7 Install fails on early Mac Pro

Just wondered if anyone else has experienced a blue screen failure during installation of Windows 7 RC 32-bit on an early Mac Pro (pre-2008). I get almost to the very end of the install during the copy files/settings phase (last one), and after a reboot, Win7 seems to start, but eventually crashes with a blue screen.
This is on a separate hard drive formatted to all NTFS. I've tried an install from the DVD from scratch (freshly formatted drive), and then again as an upgrade from a Vista installation (this all took many hours - and I do this for fun?). All with 32 bit since I don't have access to 64 bit drivers. But the result was uniform in both cases. The same version installed perfectly with vmWare Fusion.
So I suspect some issue with my Mac Pro Quad, which is an early, first generation version. I know others have had success with Win7 on a Mac Pro, but maybe on 2008 and later versions?
I have yet to try Win7 64-bit. Hopefully will get cured by final release, but would just like to know if anyone else with early Mac Pros have had success.

I don't think you really need to worry about 64-bit drivers - I don't have any Apple software or Boot Camp.
You don't mention RAM, disk drives, or graphics card, or any other hardware and whether you tried w/o.
I would warn that our early Mac Pro will have to work around the EFI boot menu that Windows 7 RC x64 presents.
I've had my 7300GT culprit; a disk drive that had to be reformatted in Vista; pull the 4 x 512MB of RAM (Apple) that was beginning to trigger a red light. So there are various items. And they all took hours to diagnose, swapping hardware; lots of head scratching.
There is no cure except to get around hurdles. We are stuck in EFI 32-bit land. May have to / want to buy 10.6 to get newer drivers, but that won't add 64-bit support. You can if you must, get 64-bit Boot Camp. I feel it is optional.
If you can install Vista, then install Windows to another drive, leaving Vista alone. Burn the ISO to DVD and copy the DVD back to a 8GB NTFS partition and run Windows Install Setup off that is fast and neat.
Setup a drive with room for Vista, Windows 7 RC, 8GB ISO partition, and data partition. Or expand to multiple drives.
Burn the DVD slower. There are other tips and ideas.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1866970&tstart=0
I've found Kaspersky 2010 beta and license from 2009 Internet Suite to probably be the best I've tested so far in that area.
Fusion use to use Windows Server 2008, maybe it got updated to include a better profile, or it was only x64 that had any problems. Sun VirtualBox is another. With that, you can modify the DVD to allow booting easier if needed.
I have Vista SP1, then put in Vista SP2-RC (same drive) and for Windows 7 I have one install that is for testing anything new first, and another that I use daily regularly - and prefer to use 7.7100 RC now instead of Vista.
Installing Windows while booted in Windows is neat, can be fast, but first find the hardware issue. Most BSOD is drivers and need to safe boot and uninstall drivers, but you may not have gotten even that far. And don't until you have a restore point, and be ready to reboot from Vista or 7 DVD to repair Windows.

Early Mac Pro EFI and 64 bit Question

I have an early Mac Pro 2006 and have been unable to successfully install Windows 7 64 bit due to EFI incompatibility (after installation was able to boot to safe mode but unable to otherwise boot; device manager shows that MacPro incompatible).
My question is why Apple has not provided a firmware update for the early MacPros that includes the newer EFI version present in current generation MacPros??

Let's see, different motherboard and you don't think that matters? the front side bus and memory operate differently, the PCI slots are configured different.
You can't just "update" firmware to cross those bridges. And I'm sure there is even more involved between EFI32 and UEFI 2.x (EFI64).
Vista SP1 wasn't out in 2006, and UEFI wasn't finalized and supported yet.
Apple never provided 64-bit drivers for Windows on the 1st generation Mac Pro, and none of the iMac series has had UEFI or 64-bit endorsements.
You figured out how to install Windows 7 from inside Vista, and probably how to get Boot Camp 64-bit. All you probably need is a small Vista or Windows 7 32-bit system partition to carry you forward.

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I writ again my problem
i installed win 7 32 bit in my mac pro 13-inch, Late 2011 Processor 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5 Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2 (11C74)
but there is no sound in windows 7 please send me a address sit for downoad driver that i can use in Afghanistan
believe it is confus me and other friend that bought 5 mac's that are the same and i serched a lot of site without result

Trying to install Windows 7 on my mac pro

Trying to install Windows 7 on my mac pro. I'm running 10.6, I have boot camp 3.04 and after I partition and install the disc (using 32bit) it restarts automatically and freezes on a black screen. I have updated my software so what should I do? Thanks.

A., Use 64-bit for sure. You have too much RAM and hardware and VRAM
B. Put Windows 7 Pro 64-bit SP1, you have a dual processor you need Pro.
C. A dedicated drive for Windows.
D. At least 50GB
E. most important, pull all drives out and leave in just the drive Windows will install onto.

Compatible HD for Early Mac Pro 2008

Hello All,
I have two failing drives in my early Mac Pro 2008 and its time to find some replacements. The drives I need to replace are 1TB in size but I was looking to get something larger being 1.5TB. I read on a site that this version of Mac Pro supports a maximum of 4TB accross all the four bays which would essentially mean a maximum of 1TB for each Bay. Here is the link to the site: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/faq/mac-pro-how-to-upgrade-hard-dr ives-what-type-supported.html
Question I have, is whether its safe to add two 1.5TB drives (I also have a 640GB for the boot and 500GB additional data drive) or should I stick with 1TB drives? Also, is there any advantage in going beyond the 3Gb/s Serial ATA spec as I would suspect the faster drives would not be utilized to their capacity given the older data path in this machine.
Any help/advice would be appreciated and thanks in advance!
Cheers,
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You can put any make and any size 3.5" drive in all the bays in any combination. Also SATA 3's will work but of course at not their full maximum speed as you mentioned so SATA 2's are OK.
As an example, if you got 4 3TB's you could stuff them in there for a max of 12TB. Bit of overkill unless you really need all that space!
Personally I like Western Digital 1TB and 2TB blacks.
You might also want to consider using an SSD as your boot drive.
Update: I took a look at that site you linked. That 4TB limit is the max any one drive bay can support, not the total capacity across all 4 bays.

REAL hard drive space on early mac pros??

REAL hard drive space on early mac pros??
I own one of the first generation Mac Pros 2.66ghz quad, 2006.
I've read that you can use up to 2TB or 3TB of hard drive space inside the machine. I suspect this is understated. So what else is new?
I currently have 3 x 500 gb drives and 1 x 2TB drive in my machine.
I'd actually like to put in 3 more 2TB drives. Has anyone done this?
Any thoughts?

No, not really.
A 3TB HD can be troublesome for BootCamp use, since the Windows partition is put in the area above 2TB and the Master Boot Record (MBR) Windows still uses has trouble / is incompatible with adressing harddisk space above 2.2TB.
With some RAID setup and IIRC the Apple Raid 3TB harddisks are shown and using also only 2.2TB.
So, in essence if you stay away from BootCamp Windows and RAID 4 x 3TB also work fine in your MP.
And I had 2TB HDs in my own 2006 MP before I sold it and got me a 2010 MP.
Stefan

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If you use Windows program to partition the Hard Drive, the Apple partition gets destroyed.
Windows does not understand it is a guest on your Mac, and throws garabge wherever it pleases.

Problems installing Windows 7 on the Mac Pro 3,1

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It sounds like it is time to restore from the backups you made just before making the disk changes.
You can re-partition and restore your backups. If you didn't make backups first (you were warned that it might damage things and to make sure you had a good backup) then you will need to repartition everything and reinstall from scratch...

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Did you download the drivers to a FAT32 formatted USB drive per the instructions?

Upgrade early Mac Pro to 802.11n?

Is it possible to upgrade my early Mac Pro 2.6 quad Xeon from 802.11g to 802.11n? What parts are required? Source? Cost? User-installable?
Thanks for any help.

There is an upgrade card from Apple.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=85A 8FBC1&nplm=M8881LL/A

Geforce 9800 GT Running On Early Mac Pro (EFI32)

I arrived at this point from another thread, which is here:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8988306#8988306
To make a long story short, I now have a 9800 GT running safely on my early Mac Pro.
It is a single GPU solution and it works reliably under both Mac OS X and Boot Camp Vista Ultimate 32 and is the fastest GPU (according to the Open GL benchmarks) I've ever seen on any Mac Pro. Absolutely no artifacts under either environment and the Crysis series is easily handled in Boot Camp. Still testing though...
Here is the specific GPU that's now installed:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187026
The dual fans make it insanely cool. It's also quiet and while perhaps a useless observation, its setup of copper heat sinks and connectors, etc., appears very practically done while also being a kind of attractive arrangement as well.
My 9800 GT is a reflashed PC board by bruinmacs:
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/bruinmacsW0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQmdoZ
As for installation to replace my also very fast 8800 GTS, I had to remove the side rail (two screws) and the daughter board (small lcd display) from the standard 9800 GT so it could fit in the lowest slot. The small lcd is not helpful for us Mac Pro owners.
I don't know for sure, but I believe this board by bruinmacs will run in any Mac Pro (it is PCIE 2).
FYI...
Cheers,
tyvol

Thanks for the reminder hatter...
I think that you are correct that the ROM's on these reflashed PC GPU's should be targeted to either the EFI32 or EFI64 Mac Pro version.
I forgot to mention that in addition to reflashing the 9800 GT with their ROM update for my EFI32 Mac Pro, bruinmacs also first increased the ROM to 128k.
Don't know for sure (bruinmacs would, though) but it seems to me that with the proper EFI32 or EFI64 ROM reflash, this 9800 GT could work in any current Mac Pro.
Cheers,
tyvol

Windows 7 beta, 64-bit, on a Mac Pro

I'm about to attempt this, so I thought I'd gather together some tips on it. Found this thread re MacBook Pros:
http://ourcoffeestops.com/2009/01/guide-windows-7-x64-build-7000-on-a-macbook-pr o/
Has anybody else tried this on a Mac Pro with any success?
I've got a GEForce 8800 GT, early-2008 Mac Pro with 2 x Quad core. Any advice?
Thanks

If you had installed Vista, they you probably know most all the how and why, and just need tips on what is new and different.
Main new item to be aware of:
Older driver updates and installers (like Apple Boot Camp) have to run in a new "Vista Compatibile Mode" property setting. It may not run, or run and not really be successful.
You will need to reinstall or install RealTek audio driver yourself.
Pull your drives and leave one raw drive in there, formatted as Master Boot Record and FAT (MSDOS) and boot from the Windows 7 DVD you burned earlier in Disk Utility.
If someone has a Mac Pro from pre-2008, it has a different EFI32 firmware, not UEFI 2.x (EFI64) and may see an EFI boot menu when first boot from Windows 7 DVD (or Vista SP1 or later) when using 64-bit (Microsoft added some support for EFI in 64-bit versions post Vista SP1).
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2731677&SiteID=1
http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-467704.html
https://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-installation-instructions.aspx
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