Windows 7 installer drivers vs MSI drivers - Extreme slow install
Problem: When I run the Windows 7 Pro installation CD, every screen take a very long time (from 10 minutes to 2 hours) to proceed to the next prompt.
Tried: First tired installing with legacy + UEFI and now reinstalling OS with UEFI which both produce same results. In fact, the worst part was reformatting the SSD to support a GPT partition. This is taking hours.
Considering trying: Gskill thread and vBios upgrade thread
Solution: After OS is running, I first apply drivers for on board network card, then install MSI Live Update 6 and update all MSI drivers.
Results: OS boots normal and normal response times on boots.
Question: There is a "Load Driver" option during the advance option when installing Windows 7 when you select the partition to install Windows. Before I try process of elimination, any suggestion on which driver could be the culprit?
After I finish this next install, I should have list of the drivers that MSI Live Update says it updates. I hoping this is a known issue, and I am just failing to find it on the forum.
Board: MSI Z97-GD65
Bios: Click Bios Version 2.2
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K HaswellQuad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150
Ram: Gskill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) CL 9
Vid: EVGA GTX 780 3GB
PSU: Corsair CX750M 750W (62A +12V single rail)
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE250BW 250GB SATA 6Gb/s TLC
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE250BW 250GB SATA 6Gb/s TLC
HDD: Western Digital 1TB 7200 WD10EFRX SATA 6.0Gb/s
OS: Win 7 Pro 64bit in UEFI mode
OC: Not yet
Root Cause established!
Well mostly...
First, I did as suggested.
1. I bought a USB 3.0 drive and made a bootable image of the Windows 7 install using UEFI. While there, I read up on Windows Automated Installation Kit and building a custom WIM to install drivers. We do this type of thing at my company all the time, but it has always been the responsibility of others.
2. After taking all night for the OS to install, I methodically install each driver manually and waiting the dreaded long reboot to see which fixed the issue. Installing the SATA driver made the Starting Windows work faster, but I noticed I was having all kinds of issues with the Western Digital HDD formatting and I still was not impressed with the boot time. Following the next suggested solution to start with only the SSD. THEN!!!! The POST, Bios screen, Starting Windows and login were incredibly fast!!! I was logged in less than 10 seconds. Now this has been my expectation all along.
3. I tested moving the HDD to other SATA ports, but the problem returned. I will try another cable, but these were the ones provided by MSI that came with the motherboard. I will need to purchase one as I used all 4 that came with it.
At this point, the HDD is out of the computer. I plan to search the WD forums to see if anyone else has had this experience.
Thanks you for those that committed on my post. As a result, I have my system now booting with UEFI instead of legacy mode. That in and of itself was worth the effort.
Once I find out more about the HDD issue, I will update the forum. Hope this helps someone else.
Thanks,
AphelionElite
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