Windows 8.1 to Synology NAS (DS2413+) - SMB 20MB/s but HTTP 100MB/s?!

Hello all,
Using the normal Windows 8.1 file sharing (SMB) on a high-end laptop with a mapped drive to a shared folder on my new Synology NAS (DS2413+), I get approximately 20MB/s speed... which is so slow the NAS is pretty much useless in my office as we need to
move terabytes of data and don't have much time to do it. If I transfer the exact same file from the same laptop using the Synology's web interface "File Station" (HTTP), the speed is approximately 100MB/s! We can live with 100MB/s. File Station
is really not an option for us though because we need the Windows file sharing stuff like mapped drive letters.
The laptop is plugged directly into the NAS with a network cable... there is no switch involved. I can replicate this behavior consistently - 20MB/s using Windows file sharing (SMB) and 100MB/s using File Station (HTTP.) I've tried everything I can think of
on the laptop after a couple days of troubleshooting and could really use some help. Hopefully someone else has run into this and solved it?
Some of the troubleshooting stuff I've done includes deleting the network adapter on the Windows 8.1 laptop and reinstalling it, to make sure I hadn't screwed up any default settings... nothing changed with the speeds, but I think that's a moot point because
transferring files is 5x faster with HTTP than SMB, so the network connection itself is fine. I have also enabled SMB2 on the NAS and confirmed with the PowerShell cmdlet "Get-SmbConnection" that SMB2 is being used.

Hi Mysticron,
As we have issue in use SMB, please take the following steps to fix this issue:
1. Deploy High-speed Networking Features
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=4872
2. Enable Receive Window Auto-Tuning
3. Disable SMB Signing
For more information about SMB, please refer to the following article.
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/7bd9978c-69b4-42bf-90cd-fc7541ccb663/forum-faq-troubleshooting-network-file-copy-slowness?forum=winserverPN
Hope it will be helpful.
Best regards,
Fangzhou CHEN
Fangzhou CHEN
TechNet Community Support

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