Windows, games on mac pro

I am looking for some input about running windows on a mac pro and playing games under windows , for example steam games? Will the games play as good as on a pc? Anyone with experience with this?

Windows graphic card performance:
http://www.barefeats.com/harper11.html
Radeon 4870 vs GTX 280 (neither works in OS X at all)
http://www.barefeats.com/harper19.html
Radeon 3870
http://www.barefeats.com/harper17.html

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Playing Windows games on Mac Pro?

I'm giving my son my Mac Pro 3,1 2.8 gig dual quad core machine. He wants to play Windows games on it. How does one set that up? Also, he wants to upgrade the video card to the ATI 5770. Does he buy the one for Apple or Windows, and does he need special drivers? I'm getting a new Mac Pro 12 core. Thanks.

Forum and support:
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To see early startup you want an Apple compliant card. To play games you may be fine or want something more, depends on game and what level of performance.
You install Apple drivers and all the normal Windows gpu and other drivers.
And Microsoft Security Essentials.
Microsoft Security Essentials
Ah, didn't you already try or install Windows? seems like you did at least try? No?

Bootcamp - Windows 8.1 - Mac Pro (Late 2013) -- ATI Driver Crash

Hi All,
I have a open case with Apple as well on this but i can not seem to locate any information on this issue on the web at all.
Case: 601052633
Basically, we received a new Late 2013 Mac Pro, and out of the box proceeded to install bootcamp and windows 8.1.
After the install and the bootcamp drivers are installed the screen starts to display lines and the ATi drivers eventually crash.
If we uninstall the ATI drivers the screen is returned to normal and windows uses the generic drivers, however the graphics performance is degraded.
If we install the latest ATI drivers (downloaded directly from the ATI webpage) the display issues reoccur.
If left to run its path the screen becomes unreadble and eventually the system bluescreens.
To recap all the things I have done:
Straight out of the box we started the boot camp install. We use the latest Windows 8.1 Media.
Once the process is completed the PC reboots as normal and we install windows on the “BOOTCAMP” partition.
Windows installs without issue and when the bootcamp drivers window pop’s up it starts its install. At the “Chipset” drivers install the window starts to flicker, this appears to be normal but afterwards the screen shows “lines” on it. (these lines can be seen on image below)
Once windows is booted the lines remain and progressively gets worse. Image below shows the ATI Criver crash and the blue screen. This takes 2-5 seconds. And depends on how much you move on the screen.
Screen capture (shown Below) shows the issues, even with screen capture the issue is recorded.
If we uninstall the ATI display drivers the issue disappears.
Process of tests:
Install Bootcamp windows 8.1 on Mac pro 2013 out of the box – Issue recorded
Remove Bootcamp and update firmware on Mac.
Install Bootcamp windows 8.1 on Mac Pro 2013 – Same issue.
Updated ATI Drivers using ATI drivers off ATI website – Same issue
Uninstalled ATI Drivers – 2 Generic Microsoft video cards detected – issue removed but video performance degraded.
Updated Bootcamp Drivers – ATI drivers reinstalled – Issue returned
Removed bootcamp, restored system to factory settings via web install.
Installed Bootcamp windows 8 on Mac Pro 2013 – Same issues
Removed bootcamp restored System to default
Tried installing windows 7 – not supported
Installed Windows 8.1 and ran screen captures and diagnostics.
We have also tried using different display ports, Different display adaptors, Different monitors.
Mac OS is not affected.
Note Mac is “out of the box”, Windows is a next next next install. No changes or software is installed.
Any support would be appreciated.
Cheers
Steffen.
It Manager.

I had this exact same issue and had been hunting it down since i first received my Mac Pro back in May 2014. I researched the problem all over the place but I have no idea why i did not find this post, or in fact why Apple techs did not find this post either.
Bottom line: In my case I have pretty much proved this was a problem with the AMD FirePro D300 video card/s. They basically can't cope with Windows graphics needs.
I have a new Mac with D500 cards, and now the problem is almost completely gone. I can recreate if i run certain situations and a screen saver. Upon refresh, there is a chance the card will crash, but showing a slightly different outcome.
Having read the prior posts, the D700 may also have the same issue??
Longer story and background: I am not exactly an expert, but i did try many different things and probably spent in excess of 200 hours onto tech support and installing, reinstalling, trying different monitors, trying different software. Eventually i was so frustrated and in tears with this issue.
The major problem over all this time was the constant response from Apple that this was not an Apple issue since the Mac OS was not showing any issues.
I was at the time a new Mac convert, my brother had purchased the 'awesome' machine for me as a birthday gift, with the goal that we could play a specific game together. My disappointment in Apples inability to recognize or even attempt to recognize that this was related to the hardware in the Mac itself was constant and ongoing.
My final visit to the Apple store to again visit the 'Genius' bar came up yet again with the most senior tech in the store telling me that there were no problems identified with the hardware and that this was not their issue. Totally frustrating. I was rather hoping, in the good tradition of true geeks, that this would have been a challenge to hunt down. I was pretty sure they trusted me that this was not a standard Windows issue, and thus was hoping they would switch out individual pieces of components (video cards being my first choice) to see if that the problem repeated. Nope, didn't want to do it.
My response was to threaten with legal action - not something i enjoyed doing, plus that i would NEVER buy an Apple product again. Since I was a new business client, this may have had an impact.
This wonderful Manager at the store agreed that he wanted to take the hardware out of the equation and see if I still had the issue. So he, amazingly, agreed to refund in full for the machine and I could order a new one.
As i was convinced this was hardware related, since I had the Quad core, D300's, 12 gig machine and my brother had the top of the range six processor, D500s, 16gig memory machine which did NOT have this issue, running identical software, when i reordered the Mac Pro, I bumped it up to the D500s (still Quad core) and 16gig of memory (also had the 1TB drive partitioned 40/60 in bootcamps favor).
I tentatively installed windows after a couple of days of normal Apple usage (software updates included).
I then hammered the system with the same software and installs.
Its been up and running for perhaps 2-3 weeks now, and I have not seen the issue at all, other then when i had screen saver running and 4 instances of the game running (Everquest for those of you who are interested - but the software is almost irrelevant, since i have had this issue using internet explorer or Chrome).
So.. I urge Apple to review this issue with the D300s and either remove them from the configuration options or resolve the issue. One of the powerful selling things for this wonderful machine is its ability to run Windows in native mode. I like it because I also want to get into App Development, so the dual option boot option is just what i wanted.
Responding to us poor Windows installers with 'not my problem' simply isn't good enough and should never have been something i had heard.
All good now, I am happy with the end result, but I would like Apple to recognize this IS AN ISSUE THEY NEED TO ADDRESS.
I apologize if my technical knowledge is not a strong as it might need to be in relaying this information to you guys, but hopefully it all makes sense.
Paul

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I already bought mac book pro last year but it can't view windows just like mac pro for education. I want to make like mac pro for education How?

First, if you have a MACBOOK PRO (a laptop), you should post in that forum. MAC PRO (desktop) and Macbook Pro are different things, so when you use those terms interchangeably, it's impossible to know what you're talking about.
Second, even guessing that you have a laptop, I still have no idea what your question means. Are you trying to load Microsoft Windows on it? Every Mac can run Windows using either Boot Camp or Parallels/Fusion/VMWare solutions. Please explain in more detail what you're trying to do, and we'll try to help. But post in the Macbook Pro forum if you're talking about a laptop.
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I can't get air drop to appear on my finder window in my Mac Pro. What to do?

The Mac Pro is probably too old. Please read Apple's article about Airdrop at:
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Hello i would like instal windows in my mac pro retina but i don't have boot camp

Hello i would like instal windows in my mac pro retina but i don't have boot camp

What version of OS X are you running on your MBPr?
If you open Applications > Utilities, you should see Boot Camp Assistant in that folder.
That is the utility which will create the partition into which you can install Windows that you have purchased from Microsoft.

Graphics card and windows 7 on Mac Pro 2009

Hi all,
I have a mac pro 2009 with a Nvidia GT 120 and have windows 7 bootcamped. I am a keen game player and I have to say playing the likes of Aion are not that good.
I was wondering if a ATI Radeon HD 5870 would be any better? It has a display port which would allow me connect my 24" Apple cinema screen. I was wondering if anybody has any opinion on the matter?

Hi!
Welcome to the forums! When Apple finally brings out the 5870 for sale, it will be the best card for the mac pro. I am also a heavy gamer in windows 7 and can tell you that the 5870 is a much better card compared to the GT120 which is not such a good gaming card..
Even the 4870 is better than the GT120 and like the 5870, you will be able to use the 24 inch LED Cinema display.
I hope I answered your question for you..
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Windows 64-bit Mac Pro 1,1

With the latest boot camp 4.0 and 5.0 packages Apple went to extra lengths to make sure that 99.9% it would be impossible for me to install Boiot Camp x64.
Why? all I want is the time to be right, a Startup Disk (Lion's does not see Windows 7 or 8 installed already).
It isn't like it is essential and needed, just more convenient.
There is no thermal fan control from Apple or anywhere.
It is an issue with the SMC that if tghe power cable is unplugged it boots instantly.
the date and time would be nice IF I dual boot back to Lion.
I installed Lion to use latest Pages to print and sign a document. Period. End of need.
Would be nice to run OS X in a VM under Windows, it is after all Apple hardware that Mac has to run on which it is and would.
but the extra steps to BLOCK installing Boot Camp just amazed me to no end that they spent the time and effort and r eally get in their there device IDs.
Even the EFI64 2008 3,1 Mac Pro is NOT on the support list for Windows 8 now.
Mac and Windows, really not all that much different anymore except the hardware and support.
And who is proprietary.

I just thought I would share my Mac Pro 1.1 experience. I recently had to replace a failed memory riser card by buying a pair from ebay (they both failed a month apart) and took advantage of the opportunity to replace my Mac Pro 2006 with the 2008 model for $700 and inserted my drives and upgraded to 10.8.5. Just holding off on Mavericks for now... Bought a Radeon 5770 and graphics are just peachy (i'm not a gamer). Then I put a samsung ssd 512gb in as the system drive and a 3tb for data so that machine is going fine
What to do with the 2006 Mac Pro?. No one wants it on ebay so I thought i'd try it on Windows. Windows 32bit loads via boot camp once you figure out how to recognise the sata bus (depends on your windows 7 dvd version i think) but under 32 bit you only get 2gb usable ram ! something , not just video is addressing 2gb so that *****. You cannot boot off the 64bit dvd (try it) so i installed 64bit windows 7 on a clean drive on my core2dou pc then put the drive in my 4core xeon mac pro. It booted fine and installed alot of drivers for the xeons automatically. Then I got some drivers from 64bit bootcamp and sound drivers from the realtek website. Then , I upgraded to 64 bit windows 8 pro and everything still works. Then, I downloaded the free windows 8.1 pro update and everything still works..... As PCs go, this is still a pretty fast machine, and gives little away to , say an i5 or i7. If you put in an SSD and gamers video card it would fly, but i dont need that....

Black Screen for Install of Windows 7 on Mac Pro Early 2008

I have a mac pro early 2008 with lion 10.7.4 and boot camp 4.0.3 I think... anyways the problem I have is when I am in boot camp, and configure the HDD partition, then the machine reboots... when it reboots and starts up boot from the install DVD (legit retail copy) I just get a black screen on both monitors. No curser, nothing just a black screen, same as I get when the machine is off! the little white LED lights are on and nothing...
I can hear the DVD spinning up and down a few times then that just stops too...
I have tried resetting the PRAM, pulling the power and watch battery inside for a few minutes, I tried the "fix" that is online for the imac problem with the answerfile and got no different resutls with anything, still the same probelm.
I have the OEM ATI Radeon video card 512MB.
* as a side note, I was never able to download the windows support drivers prior to trying the install... I tried and tried for the last two days so this time I "unchekced" that box and just went for the install...
Any help will be greatly appriciated, thank you :-)
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Hey Hatter, I know this is a little old but I've just picked up this thread and I wonder if you can help. I get the same issue as:
JRASupport
Jun 28, 2012 1:56 PM
I have a mac pro early 2008 with lion 10.7.4 and boot camp 4.0.3 I think... anyways the problem I have is when I am in boot camp, and configure the HDD partition, then the machine reboots... when it reboots and starts up boot from the install DVD (legit retail copy) I just get a black screen on both monitors. No curser, nothing just a black screen, same as I get when the machine is off! the little white LED lights are on and nothing...
I get that dreaded black screen following partioning of my drive on the Windows 7 install on Mavericks on a Macbook Pro late-2008 (MBP5,1) but I'm at a loss to work out where the solution lies in the thread! ;-(
To date I've spent about 5 days going back and forth trying all sorts of combinations, including the obvious:
- removing bootcamp 5 and reverting to 4
- installing the imac drivers
A HUGE thanks if you can offer any help as I'm at the end of my tether...!
Adam
BTW I'm working off USB with 32 bit Windows 7 ISO

Problem with Windows 7 on Mac Pro 3,1

I am trying to install Windows 7 to a seperate HDD an on Mac Pro 3,1 and have run into a problem getting it to work.
To start with I had a 500GB HDD which was partitioned using Bootcamp assistant and had OSX 10.6,8 and Windows 7 installed on it and worked fine. I decided to purchase 2x 120GB SSDs (1 for OSX and 1 for WIndows) and also purchased a Sata III PCI-e card to go with them. I started by putting in the card and connecting the two drives, booting into OSX from my exsisting HDD and cloning it to the 1st SSD using CCC. Everything went perfect. OSX booted off the new SSD and speeds were amazing (Getting around 448MB/s Read and 395MB/sec Write).
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After all that I decided to try just using one SSD and letting Bootcamp assistant partition it and install WIndows that way. Same result. After booting OSX after finishing Windows it kills the Windows boot.
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Well I finally got it running smooth again, turns out that one of the windows updates changed the way the licensing works and for some odd reason it no longer works on Mac, go firgure lol. I ended up giving my windows 7 license to a friend who just built a PC so it worked fine for him but I am out $139 .
To get it working again I had to take my Mac Pro to work and let the IT guys install the Enterprise Edition and activate it againist the companies activation server. Works great now but it means I will have to take it to work every 6 months now for activation
I wish Microsft would stop making things so hard for us Mac guys.

To Windows Users Considering Mac Pro

When I first was considering a mac pro ( I have just bought one a week ago - end of june 2011 )
My first few posts prior to purchasing on here were probably very defensive and pushing for reasoning.
Only after purchasing do I understand why I got the responses I did.
I dont want to say that MAC is God like.
But its close to it
So having been a windows user for so long and just switched over ( yes it did cost a lot but its worth it! )
Here is what I have found useful
1, The speed that it loads and shuts down is just **** dreamy! Its the way computers should run! ( windows is horrific compared on that ) That was always my biggest peeve with windows, it took forever loading its crap in the background
2. The quality is incredible. Really solid built, super thin! ( I actually cant stop looking at this **** notebook....)
3. Its packed with stunning applications that you would have to pay tons of money for on windows
4. I love the magnetic charger, that prevents tons of issues that regular notebooks have with the inside part becoming loose after a few years of pulling out and putting in the cable.
5. The trackpad, swipingin, clicking, tapping... **** its beautiful!
6. Their magic mouse ( i got that too ) is just magic!
7. Everything is so much more organized, streamline and cleaner ( great for business )
I am sure i will find many more things, but for now... if you are thinking of getting one and cant understand why they are so **** expensive.
There are lots of reasons why. I wont give you the speal about BMW or such as I know there are lots of great PCs out there, but it really cant be compared its in a class of its own and once you have it... well i honestly cant see myself going back
In fact... next in line is replacing my desktop ( but i may wait till next year for that )
thanks
Oh and.... sorry mac guys for yanking your chain and thanks for being patient with me previously
As they say once you have mac... you wont go back!

Actually, they're not so expensive, considered from the standpoint of value. I purchased new computers, but the old ones - one of which I've kept close tabs on since its OS9 days - still work fine. There are a few excellent Windows laptops, true, but every time a friend has used one, he says it died after three or four years.
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When I boot in safe mode with networking, the error does not show on the network taskbar icon and I can browse the internet just fine.
Here's the temporary fix that I found works every time in standard boot mode.
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2. It will automatically assign a subnet (255.255.255.0)
3. Close the networking window.
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6. Try it now. Everything should be working.
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My thought - because the only issues I've had personally with Vista/7 have had to do with modems and routers, and went away once I upgraded those. Sometimes there are firmware updates to deal with new OS.
Your post didn't seem to mention wired/wireless or modem and router in place.
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Any help is highly appreciate.
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@The hatter
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I have a 2008 Mac Pro (Intel) running 10.10. I'm trying to install windows (8.1) on my machine which I have done several times before (mostly XP and windows 7). I've created a bootable USB drive using bootcamp but my machine won't boot from it or recognize it on startup. From research it doesn't seem that machines that came with super drives will allow this. Since my super drive is dead I need a way to install windows without it - buying a new one would only be used to install windows. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I can have the USB show up either with or without pulling the OS X hardrive. When I try to launch it however nothing happens although the USB flickers forever showing activity. I've tried creating the usb from both .cdr and .iso files with no difference.
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