Windows XP FAT 32 or NTFS

Hi. I just discovered that my HD Video Camera is not recognized by my iMAc so i am going to have to install windows as a second operating system. Could someone please give me the best options, i hope to be able to download my movies on to a windows based program then change back to OS X, see the files in a folder in OS X then edit them directly.
Many thanks.

Sony is often problematic with Macs and I think it is likely because Sony makes it own range of computers and they are Windows based. Part of their reasoning for having their own memory sticks is because Sony laptops support them and it gives you incentive to stay in the Sony ecosystem. My Sony cameras and phones are one of the main reasons I have for installing Windows on my Mac.
Something you should think of regarding formating. The only advantage that FAT32 has is the ease of read/write from OS X. In every other department it is problematic. Partition size limitations, too small file size for video and so on. Another biggie is backing up the Windows partition. It is difficult to back up XP from FAT32 for example. Don't forget that FAT32 is really old technology. NTFS is the way to go. It has "modern" capabilities including larger file and partition sizes and allows for easy back up solutions.
Have a look at this software: _NTFS For Mac_ here: http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/
It costs 40 dollars but gives you full read and write of the NTFS partition from within OS X and without security problems.
MacDrive is recommendable for read/write capabilities of the OS X partition (HFS+) from Windows if you also require that capability however it does have a security problem in that Windows does not recognize permissions in the Mac file structure. This potentially can give malware access to the Mac OS or more likely, allow someone with access to the Windows partition the ability to do damage to the OS X partition - delete or add files etc in any account. Because of this potential you need to be particularly careful about security in Windows on that computer.

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    insmod part_gpt
    insmod ntfs
    set root='hd0,gpt2'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt2 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt2 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt2 ECE43E9AE43E674C
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root ECE43E9AE43E674C
    fi
    drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
    chainloader +1
    menuentry 'Windows 8 (loader) (on /dev/sda4)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-DE4241E84241C5CD' {
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod ntfs
    set root='hd0,gpt4'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt4 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt4 DE4241E84241C5CD
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root DE4241E84241C5CD
    fi
    drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
    chainloader +1
    ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
    # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
    # the 'exec tail' line above.
    #menuentry "Microsoft Windows 8 x86_64 UEFI-GPT NTFS" {
    #insmod part_gpt
    #insmod ntfs
    #insmod search_fs_uuid
    #insmod chain
    #search --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt4 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt4 DE4241E84241C5CD
    #chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
    menuentry "Windows 8" {
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod fat
    insmod search_fs_uuid
    insmod chain
    search --no-floppy --fs--uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt1 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt1 90FA-5332
    chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
    menuentry "Windows 8-2" --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-ECE43E9AE43E674C' {
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod fat
    insmod search_fs_uuid
    insmod chain
    search --no-floppy --fs--uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt1 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt1 90FA-5332
    chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
    if [ -f ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
    source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
    elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
    source $prefix/custom.cfg;
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
    ~ ᐅ sudo grub-probe --target=fs_uuid /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
    90FA-5332
    ~ ᐅ sudo grub-probe --target=hints_string /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
    --hint-bios=hd0,gpt1 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt1
    bootinitscript
    Boot Info Script 0.61 [1 April 2012]
    ============================= Boot Info Summary: ===============================
    => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda.
    => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb.
    sda1: __________________________________________________________________________
    File system: vfat
    Boot sector type: Unknown
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:
    Boot files: /efi/arch-grub/grubx64.efi /efi/Boot/bkpbootx64.efi
    /efi/Boot/bootx64.efi /efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi
    sda2: __________________________________________________________________________
    File system: ntfs
    Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7: NTFS
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:
    Boot files: /bootmgr /Boot/BCD
    sda3: __________________________________________________________________________
    File system:
    Boot sector type: -
    Boot sector info:
    Mounting failed: mount: unknown filesystem type ''
    sda4: __________________________________________________________________________
    File system: ntfs
    Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7: NTFS
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:
    Boot files: /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe
    sda5: __________________________________________________________________________
    File system: ntfs
    Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7: NTFS
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:
    Boot files:
    sda6: __________________________________________________________________________
    File system: ntfs
    Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7: NTFS
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:
    Boot files:
    sda7: __________________________________________________________________________
    File system: ext4
    Boot sector type: -
    Boot sector info:
    Operating System: Arch Linux ()
    Boot files: /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab
    sda8: __________________________________________________________________________
    File system: swap
    Boot sector type: -
    Boot sector info:
    sdb1: __________________________________________________________________________
    File system:
    Boot sector type: -
    Boot sector info:
    Mounting failed: mount: unknown filesystem type ''
    mount: unknown filesystem type ''
    sdb2: __________________________________________________________________________
    File system: vfat
    Boot sector type: Unknown
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:
    Boot files:
    ============================ Drive/Partition Info: =============================
    Drive: sda _____________________________________________________________________
    Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    Partition Boot Start Sector End Sector # of Sectors Id System
    /dev/sda1 1 976,773,167 976,773,167 ee GPT
    GUID Partition Table detected.
    Partition Start Sector End Sector # of Sectors System
    /dev/sda1 2,048 616,447 614,400 EFI System partition
    /dev/sda2 616,448 1,845,247 1,228,800 Windows Recovery Environment (Windows)
    /dev/sda3 1,845,248 2,107,391 262,144 Microsoft Reserved Partition (Windows)
    /dev/sda4 2,107,392 392,816,639 390,709,248 Data partition (Windows/Linux)
    /dev/sda5 392,816,640 791,449,599 398,632,960 Data partition (Windows/Linux)
    /dev/sda6 934,809,600 976,773,119 41,963,520 Windows Recovery Environment (Windows)
    /dev/sda7 791,449,600 930,902,015 139,452,416 Data partition (Windows/Linux)
    /dev/sda8 930,902,016 934,809,599 3,907,584 Swap partition (Linux)
    Drive: sdb _____________________________________________________________________
    Disk /dev/sdb: 24.0 GB, 24015495168 bytes, 46905264 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Partition Boot Start Sector End Sector # of Sectors Id System
    /dev/sdb1 1 4,294,967,295 4,294,967,295 ee GPT
    /dev/sdb1 ends after the last sector of /dev/sdb
    GUID Partition Table detected.
    Partition Start Sector End Sector # of Sectors System
    /dev/sdb1 8,392,704 46,903,295 38,510,592 -
    /dev/sdb2 2,048 8,390,655 8,388,608 -
    "blkid" output: ________________________________________________________________
    Device UUID TYPE LABEL
    /dev/sda1 90FA-5332 vfat SYSTEM
    /dev/sda2 ECE43E9AE43E674C ntfs Recovery
    /dev/sda3
    /dev/sda4 DE4241E84241C5CD ntfs OS
    /dev/sda5 B05448EC5448B6BE ntfs DATA
    /dev/sda6 B8D84520D844DDEE ntfs Restore
    /dev/sda7 0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5 ext4 ROOT
    /dev/sda8 bcaa2c5f-150d-47c9-9a58-9a7b7ec7bed2 swap
    /dev/sdb1
    /dev/sdb2 BA5E-7431 vfat INTELRST
    ================================ Mount points: =================================
    Device Mount_Point Type Options
    /dev/sda1 /boot/efi vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
    /dev/sda4 /mnt/windows fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096)
    /dev/sda5 /mnt/data fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096)
    /dev/sda7 / ext4 (rw,relatime,commit=600,data=ordered)
    =========================== sda7/boot/grub/grub.cfg: ===========================
    # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
    # It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
    # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod part_msdos
    if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
    load_env
    fi
    set default="0"
    if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
    menuentry_id_option="--id"
    else
    menuentry_id_option=""
    fi
    export menuentry_id_option
    if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
    set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
    save_env saved_entry
    set prev_saved_entry=
    save_env prev_saved_entry
    set boot_once=true
    fi
    function savedefault {
    if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
    saved_entry="${chosen}"
    save_env saved_entry
    fi
    function load_video {
    if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
    insmod all_video
    else
    insmod efi_gop
    insmod efi_uga
    insmod ieee1275_fb
    insmod vbe
    insmod vga
    insmod video_bochs
    insmod video_cirrus
    fi
    if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
    font=unicode
    else
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod ext2
    set root='hd0,gpt7'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt7 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt7 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt7 0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5
    fi
    font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
    fi
    if loadfont $font ; then
    set gfxmode=auto
    load_video
    insmod gfxterm
    set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
    set lang=en_US
    insmod gettext
    fi
    terminal_input console
    terminal_output gfxterm
    set timeout=5
    ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
    menuentry 'Arch Linux, with Linux core repo kernel' --class arch --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-core repo kernel-true-0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5' {
    load_video
    set gfxpayload=keep
    insmod gzio
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod ext2
    set root='hd0,gpt7'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt7 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt7 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt7 0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5
    fi
    echo 'Loading Linux core repo kernel ...'
    linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5 ro quiet
    echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
    initrd /boot/initramfs-linux.img
    menuentry 'Arch Linux, with Linux core repo kernel (Fallback initramfs)' --class arch --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-core repo kernel-fallback-0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5' {
    load_video
    set gfxpayload=keep
    insmod gzio
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod ext2
    set root='hd0,gpt7'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt7 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt7 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt7 0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5
    fi
    echo 'Loading Linux core repo kernel ...'
    linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5 ro quiet
    echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
    initrd /boot/initramfs-linux-fallback.img
    ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
    ### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
    ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    menuentry 'Windows Recovery Environment (loader) (on /dev/sda2)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-ECE43E9AE43E674C' {
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod ntfs
    set root='hd0,gpt2'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt2 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt2 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt2 ECE43E9AE43E674C
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root ECE43E9AE43E674C
    fi
    drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
    chainloader +1
    menuentry 'Windows 8 (loader) (on /dev/sda4)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-DE4241E84241C5CD' {
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod ntfs
    set root='hd0,gpt4'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt4 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt4 DE4241E84241C5CD
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root DE4241E84241C5CD
    fi
    drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
    chainloader +1
    ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
    # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
    # the 'exec tail' line above.
    menuentry "Windows 8" {
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod fat
    insmod search_fs_uuid
    insmod chain
    search --no-floppy --fs--uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt1 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt1 90FA-5332
    chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
    menuentry 'Windows 82' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-ECE43E9AE43E674C' {
    insmod part_gpt
    insmod fat
    insmod search_fs_uuid
    insmod chain
    search --no-floppy --fs--uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt1 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt1 90FA-5332
    chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
    if [ -f ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
    source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
    elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
    source $prefix/custom.cfg;
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
    =============================== sda7/etc/fstab: ================================
    # /etc/fstab: static file system information
    # <file system> <dir> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
    # /dev/sda7 LABEL=ROOT
    UUID=0d63036d-b624-4596-a296-1db457c068d5 / ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 1
    # /dev/sda1 LABEL=SYSTEM
    UUID=90FA-5332 /boot/efi vfat rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro 0 2
    LABEL=DATA /mnt/data ntfs-3g uid=sighol,gid=users,dmask=022,fmask=133 0 0
    LABEL=OS /mnt/windows ntfs-3g uid=sighol,gid=users,dmask=022,fmask=133 0 0
    =================== sda7: Location of files loaded by Grub: ====================
    GiB - GB File Fragment(s)
    ======================== Unknown MBRs/Boot Sectors/etc: ========================
    Unknown GPT Partiton Type
    5850cbb887c11947baf0379ca2d4c97e
    Unknown GPT Partiton Type
    dee2bfd3af3ddf11ba40e3a556d89593
    Unknown BootLoader on sda1
    00000000 eb 58 90 4d 53 44 4f 53 35 2e 30 00 02 08 5e 1b |.X.MSDOS5.0...^.|
    00000010 02 00 00 00 00 f8 00 00 3f 00 ff 00 00 08 00 00 |........?.......|
    00000020 00 60 09 00 51 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 |.`..Q...........|
    00000030 01 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
    00000040 80 01 29 32 53 fa 90 4e 4f 20 4e 41 4d 45 20 20 |..)2S..NO NAME |
    00000050 20 20 46 41 54 33 32 20 20 20 33 c9 8e d1 bc f4 | FAT32 3.....|
    00000060 7b 8e c1 8e d9 bd 00 7c 88 56 40 88 4e 02 8a 56 |{......|[email protected]|
    00000070 40 b4 41 bb aa 55 cd 13 72 10 81 fb 55 aa 75 0a |@.A..U..r...U.u.|
    00000080 f6 c1 01 74 05 fe 46 02 eb 2d 8a 56 40 b4 08 cd |...t..F..-.V@...|
    00000090 13 73 05 b9 ff ff 8a f1 66 0f b6 c6 40 66 0f b6 |.s......f...@f..|
    000000a0 d1 80 e2 3f f7 e2 86 cd c0 ed 06 41 66 0f b7 c9 |...?.......Af...|
    000000b0 66 f7 e1 66 89 46 f8 83 7e 16 00 75 39 83 7e 2a |f..f.F..~..u9.~*|
    000000c0 00 77 33 66 8b 46 1c 66 83 c0 0c bb 00 80 b9 01 |.w3f.F.f........|
    000000d0 00 e8 2c 00 e9 a8 03 a1 f8 7d 80 c4 7c 8b f0 ac |..,......}..|...|
    000000e0 84 c0 74 17 3c ff 74 09 b4 0e bb 07 00 cd 10 eb |..t.<.t.........|
    000000f0 ee a1 fa 7d eb e4 a1 7d 80 eb df 98 cd 16 cd 19 |...}...}........|
    00000100 66 60 80 7e 02 00 0f 84 20 00 66 6a 00 66 50 06 |f`.~.... .fj.fP.|
    00000110 53 66 68 10 00 01 00 b4 42 8a 56 40 8b f4 cd 13 |Sfh.....B.V@....|
    00000120 66 58 66 58 66 58 66 58 eb 33 66 3b 46 f8 72 03 |fXfXfXfX.3f;F.r.|
    00000130 f9 eb 2a 66 33 d2 66 0f b7 4e 18 66 f7 f1 fe c2 |..*f3.f..N.f....|
    00000140 8a ca 66 8b d0 66 c1 ea 10 f7 76 1a 86 d6 8a 56 |..f..f....v....V|
    00000150 40 8a e8 c0 e4 06 0a cc b8 01 02 cd 13 66 61 0f |@............fa.|
    00000160 82 74 ff 81 c3 00 02 66 40 49 75 94 c3 42 4f 4f |[email protected]|
    00000170 54 4d 47 52 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |TMGR ........|
    00000180 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
    000001a0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0d 0a 44 69 |..............Di|
    000001b0 73 6b 20 65 72 72 6f 72 ff 0d 0a 50 72 65 73 73 |sk error...Press|
    000001c0 20 61 6e 79 20 6b 65 79 20 74 6f 20 72 65 73 74 | any key to rest|
    000001d0 61 72 74 0d 0a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |art.............|
    000001e0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
    000001f0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ac 01 b9 01 00 00 55 aa |..............U.|
    00000200
    Unknown BootLoader on sdb2
    00000000 eb 58 90 4d 53 44 4f 53 35 2e 30 00 02 08 2e 20 |.X.MSDOS5.0.... |
    00000010 02 00 00 00 00 f8 00 00 3f 00 ff 00 00 08 00 00 |........?.......|
    00000020 00 00 80 00 e9 1f 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 |................|
    00000030 01 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
    00000040 80 00 29 31 74 5e ba 4e 4f 20 4e 41 4d 45 20 20 |..)1t^.NO NAME |
    00000050 20 20 46 41 54 33 32 20 20 20 33 c9 8e d1 bc f4 | FAT32 3.....|
    00000060 7b 8e c1 8e d9 bd 00 7c 88 56 40 88 4e 02 8a 56 |{......|[email protected]|
    00000070 40 b4 41 bb aa 55 cd 13 72 10 81 fb 55 aa 75 0a |@.A..U..r...U.u.|
    00000080 f6 c1 01 74 05 fe 46 02 eb 2d 8a 56 40 b4 08 cd |...t..F..-.V@...|
    00000090 13 73 05 b9 ff ff 8a f1 66 0f b6 c6 40 66 0f b6 |.s......f...@f..|
    000000a0 d1 80 e2 3f f7 e2 86 cd c0 ed 06 41 66 0f b7 c9 |...?.......Af...|
    000000b0 66 f7 e1 66 89 46 f8 83 7e 16 00 75 39 83 7e 2a |f..f.F..~..u9.~*|
    000000c0 00 77 33 66 8b 46 1c 66 83 c0 0c bb 00 80 b9 01 |.w3f.F.f........|
    000000d0 00 e8 2c 00 e9 a8 03 a1 f8 7d 80 c4 7c 8b f0 ac |..,......}..|...|
    000000e0 84 c0 74 17 3c ff 74 09 b4 0e bb 07 00 cd 10 eb |..t.<.t.........|
    000000f0 ee a1 fa 7d eb e4 a1 7d 80 eb df 98 cd 16 cd 19 |...}...}........|
    00000100 66 60 80 7e 02 00 0f 84 20 00 66 6a 00 66 50 06 |f`.~.... .fj.fP.|
    00000110 53 66 68 10 00 01 00 b4 42 8a 56 40 8b f4 cd 13 |Sfh.....B.V@....|
    00000120 66 58 66 58 66 58 66 58 eb 33 66 3b 46 f8 72 03 |fXfXfXfX.3f;F.r.|
    00000130 f9 eb 2a 66 33 d2 66 0f b7 4e 18 66 f7 f1 fe c2 |..*f3.f..N.f....|
    00000140 8a ca 66 8b d0 66 c1 ea 10 f7 76 1a 86 d6 8a 56 |..f..f....v....V|
    00000150 40 8a e8 c0 e4 06 0a cc b8 01 02 cd 13 66 61 0f |@............fa.|
    00000160 82 74 ff 81 c3 00 02 66 40 49 75 94 c3 42 4f 4f |[email protected]|
    00000170 54 4d 47 52 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |TMGR ........|
    00000180 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
    000001a0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0d 0a 44 69 |..............Di|
    000001b0 73 6b 20 65 72 72 6f 72 ff 0d 0a 50 72 65 73 73 |sk error...Press|
    000001c0 20 61 6e 79 20 6b 65 79 20 74 6f 20 72 65 73 74 | any key to rest|
    000001d0 61 72 74 0d 0a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |art.............|
    000001e0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
    000001f0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ac 01 b9 01 00 00 55 aa |..............U.|
    00000200
    ========= Devices which don't seem to have a corresponding hard drive: =========
    sdc {
    =============================== StdErr Messages: ===============================
    cat: /tmp/BootInfo-wSbit3X4/Tmp_Log: No such file or directory
    /dev/sdc: open failed: No medium found
    No volume groups found
    mdadm: No arrays found in config file or automatically
    EDIT:
    I gave up trying to make grub work, so I uninstalled grub and deleted all the grub files I could find.
    # pacrem grub-efi-x86_64
    # rm -fr /boot/grub
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