Wireless backup possible?

Is there a way to wirelessly backup files? I'm opening a new office and have 4 terminals and need to have their data backed up and would like to do so wirelessly...is this possible?

A network hard drive is one possibility. Other options are to use another Mac as the designated backup destination, or to buy a Mac mini and use it for this purpose.
As for plugging it into an Airport Express - that is likely not an option. The Airport Express USB port can only be used for printers (you cannot plug a USB hard drive into it). The Airport Express has only one ethernet port, which is going to be used to cable the device to your cable/DSL modem or existing network so it too is unavailable. The only condition under which the Airport Express could be used is if you cable a network hard drive to its ethernet port, and you then configure the Airport Express as a remote base station in a wireless distribution system (WDS) which presupposes that you have an existing wireless network based around another Airport Express or an Airport Extreme Base Station.

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Can wireless backup be on different network to internet connection?

Can you backup to a wireless backup (say a Time Capsule) but connect to a different wireless access point for the internet?

There is no filtering from the wireless into the wired LAN. Any wireless user can access any computer on the wired LAN. If you use file or printer sharing in your LAN the computer is accessible. Of course, if you have set a password on the shares it is not immediately possible to access the files. Network printers (a printer with an ethernet card) should be fully accessible. The major risk would be that the computers are open for virus/malware. If your guest has a bad virus on his computer exploiting some new Windows vulnerability, it is likely to spread freely in your network. Your firewalls on the computers are usually set up to trust the LAN IP network. Anti-virus needs some time to be up-to-date with the latest threats. Some threats are never covered by anti-virus.
Thus, bottom line: unless you really trust your guest not to do any harm and you think that they are reasonable about their computer's security I would not recommend to give them access to your LAN. Even if it is a Mac, often Mac users use Windows virtual machines to run some Windows-only application. Plus, even a Mac can be turned into a remote controlled bot which will only pose the platform for additional attacks against Windows computer. This may be unlikely but it happens.
If you want to be secure, either get a different router which allows VLAN separate of multiple SSIDs into different fully separated VLANs or get a second wireless router which you connect to your internet modem. From there you connect to your WRT with your private LAN. The WRT will protect the LAN from access from the outside just like it protects your LAN at the moment from access from the internet. Your guest can connect to the wireless router which is connected directly to the internet.

Wireless Backup w/ time capsule

I was thinking about getting time capsule. I do have a question about wireless backup though. I travel a lot and I wondered if I were to leave my time capsule at my house and travel out of town will I still be able to backup things on the time capsule via other methods.
Is it possible to backup files via the airport feature. Like using the airport on my cpu to connect to the internet to backup files onto my time capsule at home which is also connected to the internet through airport.
I hope that this makes sense. Any advice is good advice. Thanks again.

Good question. In theory, this should be possible. In practice - and whether TimeMachine will be designed to support it - we really don't know. A definitive answer will have to wait until Time Capsule ships and we have more information.
There is one other issue - which is that Time Capsule's public IP address may change from day to day (which is typical of the dynamic IP addresses provided by most ISPs). Unless you keep a computer on your home LAN running 24/7 with an update client for a service like http://www.dyndns.com/ , or you put Time Capsule behind a separate internet router with a built in dyndns update client, you won't know what IP address to reach Time Capsule at while you are on the road.
In practise, it might be easier and more convenient to backup to something like a .Mac account while you are on the road.

Older MacBook Pro as a Wireless Backup Drive?

I just got a new MacBook Pro and want to use my old one as a wireless backup drive. Is this possible? I'd backup only user files and skip the music and photos. If so, how do I set it up and what are my options for wireless backup software?

If the router is wireless then you don't need Ethernet. Enable File Sharing on one or both computers so you can copy files from one to the other over your wireless network.
You cannot use SuperDuper! because it cannot backup to a networked device. However, any of these should work:
Backup Software Recommendations
1. Retrospect Desktop (Commercial)
2. Synchronize! Pro X (Commercial)
3. Synk (Backup, Standard, or Pro)
4. Deja Vu (Shareware)
5. Carbon Copy Cloner (Donationware)
6. Intego Personal Backup (Commercial)
7. Data Backup (Commercial)
8. SilverKeeper 2.0 (Freeware)
9. Tri-Backup (Commercial)
Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on backup and restore. Also read How to Back Up and Restore Your Files.
And, the Restore option of Disk Utility for full disk cloning. Apple's Backup 3 also will work but requires a MobileMe account.

Time Capsule - wireless backups - how?

My ISP has a modem/router(wireless) combo.
This is what I would like to do but I am not sure if it's possible. I want to continue to use my ISP combo which obviously connects to the internet. I want to move my time capsule to a secure location and only use it for wireless backups.
Is this possible? If so how? At first glance I don't know how to be connected to 2 wireless devices at the same time...

I think I figured it out. It's the extending network feature....

HT1178 i am setting u a new time capsule. i already have a wifi setup in my office. now i want to use this time capsule just as a wireless backup machine. do i still need to attached a DSL cable, or it can connect to my existing wifi and start working ?

i am setting u a new time capsule. i already have a wifi setup in my office. now i want to use this time capsule just as a wireless backup machine. do i still need to attached a DSL cable, or it can connect to my existing wifi and start working ?

You probably can, but this type of configuration is not recommended or supported by Apple.
Two cautions if you want to try this:
1) The Time Capsule has to be configured to "Join" your existing wireless network in this type of setup...and to do that, you must know the exact type of wireless security that your network is using.
2) Backups are likely going to take twice as long. The wireless signal must travel from your computer to the wireless router and then from the wireless router back to the Time Capsule. Two "hops"......even if the computer is located close to the Time Capsule.
If you want to try this, we can tell you how....but with no guarantees on your results....since this is not officially supported.

How can I create a new TC backup with ethernet, so I don't have to wait two days for a new wireless backup?

How can I create a new TC backup with ethernet, so I don't have to wait two days for a new wireless backup?
Several times in the last year, I've gotten a message that Time Machine needs to completely redo my backup. Using the wireless connection, this takes almost two days. Is there a way to do the backup with ethernet and then switch back to wireless? Thanks.

May I know what is needed to make sure the MacBook is able to see Time Capsule on ethernet?
Connect an Ethernet cable from one of the LAN <-> ports on the 2Wire gateway to the WAN port (circle of dots icon) on the Time Capsule.
If AirPort Utility cannot "see" the Time Capsule now, you will need to perform a "hard reset" by holding in the reset button for 7-8 seconds or so and then reconfigure the Time Capsule. You can use the same Time Capsule name and password, etc. as before.
Configure the Time Capsule to "Create a wireless network" and select the Bridge Mode option when it appears during the setup using AirPort Utility.
Once the Time Capsule is configured, restart the entire network again. Power down everything, start the 2Wire first and then start each other device after that one at a time about a minute apart.
Now you can connect your Mac directly to one of the LAN <-> ports on the Time Capsule for the backup using another Ethernet cable. In general, about 20-25 GB per hour will transfer.
The Time Capsule will broadcast a much faster wireless network than the 2Wire can provide, so you might want to leave the setup "as is" for awhile after the first backup is complete. If you decide to use the Time Capsule as your main wireless access point, you would want to turn the wireless off on the 2Wire since two wireless networks in close proximity can create interference problems.
Or, if you want to use the wireless on the 2Wire, you could turn off the wireless on the Time Capsule. Then backups will occur over the 2Wire wireless, or over Ethernet.
I don't really recommend the "Join a wireless network" setting on the Time Capsule for most users, but you could go back to that setup as well if you want after the first backup is complete.

Can i use my time capsule to wirelessly backup my macbook and its external hard drive, which up until now was it's time machine and storage? How?

Can i use my time capsule to wirelessly backup my macbook and its external hard drive, which up until now was it's time machine and storage? How?

The external drive must be connected to the Mac using either USB or FireWire
You must remove the external hard drive from the list of items that are "excluded" from backups in Time Machine Preferences.
Here's how:
Open System Preferences (gear icon on the dock)
Open Time Machine
Click Options
Look for the name of the hard drive in the list of "excluded" items and click on it to highlight it
Click the -- (minus) button at the bottom of the list to remove the hard drive from the list of "excluded" items....so it will now be backed up
Strongly recommend that you do the first backup using Ethenret from your computer to the Time Capsule since the entire contents of the external drive will be copied on the first pass. Ethernet will be 3-5 faster than wireless.
Once you have the first backup done, you can use wireless for subsequent backups since they will nornally be much smaller....unless you add large files to the external drive.

Is incremental backup possible for archivelog.

Hi expert
i want to plan weekly and daily backup with windows redundancy 14 days.
full archivelog backup script
run
BACKUP AS COMPRESSED BACKUPSET
INCREMENTAL LEVEL = 0
DEVICE TYPE DISK
TAG = 'WEEKLY_ARCHIVELOG'
FORMAT '/oracle/ITB/db/apps_st/rman_backup/weekly_archivelog_%d_t%t_s%s_p%p'
ARCHIVELOG FROM TIME 'SYSDATE-7';
daily backup script
run
BACKUP AS COMPRESSED BACKUPSET
INCREMENTAL LEVEL = 1
DEVICE TYPE DISK
TAG = 'DAILY_INCREMENTAL_ARCHIVELOG'
FORMAT '/oracle/ITB/db/apps_st/rman_backup/daily_incremental_archivelog_%d_t%t_s%s_p%p'
ARCHIVELOG FROM TIME 'SYSDATE-1';
my question that if i will take backup then, will be any gap in sequnce
and second question is that ---is there incremental backup possible for archivelog.
os =aix6 and database 10g2

afzal wrote:
Dear Sir,
ok question number 2 is clear that incremental backup is not possible but still confuse
about sequence
if i did take backup of 17 feb at 12 o'clock seq 1,2,3,4
after that i did take backup 18th fab 1 pm then it will take from 6,7,8-------seq 5 is missing
please please correct my archive log script for weekly and daily backup with windows redundancy 14 days
again please correct my script
thnaksWHy you think the archive log file number 5 will be missing? RMAN automatically archives current redo log files and backups it
Why you don't test your backup script by your own and check results? Never trust anyone on your critical databases' backups, do it by your own!
Kamran Agayev A.
Oracle ACE
My Oracle Video Tutorials - http://kamranagayev.wordpress.com/oracle-video-tutorials/

Consistent hot backup possible

Is a consistent hot backup possible?
I would like to perform hot backups while the database is in basically a read only state. I am currently using Oracle recommended backups via OEM, for example.
run {
allocate channel oem_disk_backup device type disk;
recover copy of database with tag 'ORA$OEM_LEVEL_0';
backup incremental level 1 cumulative copies=1 for recover of copy with tag 'ORA$OEM_LEVEL_0' database;
release channel oem_disk_backup;
allocate channel oem_sbt_backup1 type 'SBT_TAPE' format '%U';
backup recovery area;
Would executing the sql command "alter database begin backup;" before running the above RMAN script accomplish this task? Then off course when completed execute sql "alter database end backup;".
My basic concern is this type of RMAN hot backup usable in a disaster situation, i.e recreated on another server from tape backup.
I am open to any other ideas.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Ed - Wasilla, Alaska
Edited by: evankrevelen on Sep 11, 2008 10:18 PM

Thanks everyone who replied to this thread.
Just to clarify my complete backup strategy, there are two RMAN scripts run on daily and weekly basis. The daily does pickup the archivelogs. I had shown the weekly when first opening this thread. Here is the daily.
run {
allocate channel oem_disk_backup device type disk;
recover copy of database with tag 'ORA$OEM_LEVEL_0';
backup incremental level 1 cumulative copies=1 for recover of copy with tag 'ORA$OEM_LEVEL_0' database;
release channel oem_disk_backup;
allocate channel oem_sbt_backup1 type 'SBT_TAPE' format '%U';
backup archivelog all not backed up;
backup backupset all not backed up since time 'SYSDATE-1';
My question now is what RMAN does in the increments. It appears to be updating the original level 0 copies of datafiles with changed blocks only. Is the new copy of the datafile now a level 0 type file?
Here is a transcript from one of the daily backups.
Starting recover at 11-SEP-08
channel oem_disk_backup: starting incremental datafile backupset restore
channel oem_disk_backup: specifying datafile copies to recover
recovering datafile copy fno=00001 name=+DEVRVYG1/landesk/datafile/system.2576.616107783
recovering datafile copy fno=00002 name=+DEVRVYG1/landesk/datafile/undotbs1.2574.616107865
recovering datafile copy fno=00003 name=+DEVRVYG1/landesk/datafile/sysaux.2575.616107829
recovering datafile copy fno=00004 name=+DEVRVYG1/landesk/datafile/users.2572.616107871
recovering datafile copy fno=00005 name=+DEVRVYG1/landesk/datafile/landesk.2914.616107643
channel oem_disk_backup: reading from backup piece +DEVRVYG1/landesk/backupset/2008_09_10/nnndn1_tag20080910t220150_0.12330.665100189
channel oem_disk_backup: restored backup piece 1
piece handle=+DEVRVYG1/landesk/backupset/2008_09_10/nnndn1_tag20080910t220150_0.12330.665100189 tag=TAG20080910T220150
channel oem_disk_backup: restore complete, elapsed time: 00:05:16
Finished recover at 11-SEP-08
Starting backup at 11-SEP-08
channel oem_disk_backup: starting incremental level 1 datafile backupset
channel oem_disk_backup: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00005 name=+DEVG1/landesk/datafile/landesk.374.614072207
input datafile fno=00003 name=+DEVG1/landesk/datafile/sysaux.384.614002027
input datafile fno=00001 name=+DEVG1/landesk/datafile/system.383.614002025
input datafile fno=00002 name=+DEVG1/landesk/datafile/undotbs1.385.614002027
input datafile fno=00004 name=+DEVG1/landesk/datafile/users.386.614002027
channel oem_disk_backup: starting piece 1 at 11-SEP-08
channel oem_disk_backup: finished piece 1 at 11-SEP-08
piece handle=+DEVRVYG1/landesk/backupset/2008_09_11/nnndn1_tag20080911t220708_0.12999.665186835 tag=TAG20080911T220708 comment=NONE
channel oem_disk_backup: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:02:26
channel oem_disk_backup: starting incremental level 1 datafile backupset
channel oem_disk_backup: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
including current control file in backupset
including current SPFILE in backupset
channel oem_disk_backup: starting piece 1 at 11-SEP-08
channel oem_disk_backup: finished piece 1 at 11-SEP-08
piece handle=+DEVRVYG1/landesk/backupset/2008_09_11/ncsnn1_tag20080911t220708_0.2301.665186983 tag=TAG20080911T220708 comment=NONE
channel oem_disk_backup: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:21
Finished backup at 11-SEP-08
It appears to be updating the previous copy with updated blocks thus rolling forward the datafile copy to a new level 0 copy.
Then to restore from the backup RMAN would first use this new copy of the datafile and then apply any archivelogs to them to bring the database to the point in time the incremental backup was taken.
Are these assumptions true?
Thanks for your help,
ED

How to setup Time Capsule for wireless backup only

I have a new Time Capsule that I want to set up for wireless backups of both my Macbook Air (with Time Machine) and a Windows Vista laptop. I have an existing home wireless network with my Att/Uverse tv and internet service. I do not want to disturb that network/internet setup.
How do I set up the time capsule to use it for wireless backup only? When I start the Airport utility setup, the first thing it asks is do I want to 1) set up new network, 2) replace existing router, or 3) join existing network.

Thanks. That got me the green light and a message that everything was set up properly. It started it's first Time Machine backup and everything looked good for a while. But now I have a new problem.
The backup failed twice. The first time it had a message that it could no longer find the time capsule, so I had to reset it and go thru the setup procedures again. Started backup again overnight, and this morning it tells me that it failed again. But this time I still have my green light, and the message is "a network problem may have interfered with the backup.
I don't know what else to do with the setup to get it to work. Right now it has started backing up again on its own, so I'll leave it going one more time. (I should tell you that all of this is occurring on my Mac. I have not even started setting it up on the Vista machine. I want to make sure it works on the Mac first). Any advice from anyone who had the same problems with setup would be appreciated.

How do I get the TC on my Airport Extreme to do wireless backups?

I just want to use the TC for wireless backup. I've connected it to the Airport with Ethernet; unconnected the EThernet; opened Airport Utility; read the Manual; studied all these posts. Nada. It should be simple, I only need the TC to act like an external HD on the network. Any suggestions??
Twila Johnson

Let's go with simple for now and get things working.
Disconnect the Ethernet cable for now, and power down the TC by pulling the power cord
Wait a minute
Hold in the reset button on the back of the TC and keep holding for an additional 8-10 seconds while you simultaneously plug the power cord back in to the TC (tricky to do...because you almost need 3 hands)
Release the reset button after the hold period and allow 25-30 seconds for the TC to restart to a slow, blinking amber light
Connect the Ethernet cable from one of the LAN <-> ports on the AirPort Extreme to the WAN port (circle of dots icon) on the TC
Open AirPort Utility, select the TC, and click Manual Setup
Click the Time Capsule tab below the row of icons to assign a name to your Time Capsule, a device password (write that down) and adjust Time Zone settings.
Click the Wireless tab next to the Time Capsule tab
Change the setting for Wireless Mode to "Off"
Click the Internet icon, then click the Internet Connection tab
Connect Using= Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Click Update and allow 25-30 seconds for the TC to restart. You should have a green light.
Power off the entire network now....all devices.....power down order is not important
Wait a minute
Start the modem first and let it run a minute by itself
Start the AirPort Extreme the same way
Start the TC the same way
Start other devices one at a time the same way
You should be all set

Wireless Backup Disk

I was wondering if you could do wireless backups with not only Apple routers, but other ones too.

this is not supported by apple. there are hacks but they are just that. No guarantees and no support from apple. If you still wish to try check out this [link|http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080420211034137&query=Time %2Bmachine%2BNAS]. read all the comments. also [this much simpler method|http://vowe.net/archives/008940.html] is claimed to work.

Wireless backup not automatically

Hi!
While the Time Capsule drive shows up when my MacBook connects to it wirelessly, TimeMachine doesn't start automatically. The TM preference pane says, that it'll perform the next backup, when 'Mac has benn connected' (original 'Wenn Mac angeschlossen ist'; it's a german system).
I can't believe that starting the Backup manually (which works via the menu bar menu) should be the normal behaviour. This would be far away from a) any learned Apple experience and b) the TC selling proposition "make backups easy".
How does wireless backup work on your systems? Does ist start automatically when the client 'sees' Time Capsule or is the above 'normal'?
Thanks for any advice.
Best regards,
Stephan.

My MacBook Pro does the same thing with the new Time Capsule, fresh out of the box. The only way that I can run a TM backup is manually. Can anyone help? Must be a terminal command that I can invoke to make it work automatically?

Wireless Backup to Itunes rarely works

Wireless Backup rarely works. It is supposed to start as soon as a person plugs into power while logged into the home network that the Itunes is running on. More times than not Itunes freezes up looking for devices that are not even plugged in. Then I don't notice anything on the device that says, do not unplug because backup is in progress.
I think it one of the items that looks really good in an ad but is so rarely used that the complaints just do not add up to anything.   Or it simply is not a good option if you own more than 2 devices or something. I get that my PC and Itunes is freezing up because we have so many Iphones and Ipads but it really does not mention anywhere that there is a limit for how many items you can use.

While on the subject of backing up. The old Ipod/Iphone cord has ran its course.   The transfer rate is way, way too slow. Apple says that owning an Iphone may be the only camera you will ever need.   Well, that is great until you fill up the 32 gig with videos and photos and it takes hours and hours just to transfer them to free up space.
I could not believe they stuck with the same cord so it could be compatible with old stuff.   That was cool for a while but its really time to get a better cord system. It is very frustrating trying to get out the door for an event and waiting for the transfer of info through the out dated cord.
Anything new can be attached with bluetooth or even wirelessly so why the big attempt to keep the cord the same? If a person could remove the memory card and buy extra ones it would not matter how long it took because you could be back on the road while your computer was working away transfering photos and videos.
My main question.   How long does it take most people to transfer over photos and videos of a full 32 gig iphone of new photos and videos.   Yes it does get quicker if you do not delete from iphone and it only has to get new ones, I am talking about the person that may actually use the video camera alot. 32 gig is not that much, but try transfering it to a computer through that cord, and it will surely freeze almost any wifi systems in most homes.   In fact I dare anyone to transfer 32 gig wireless with out having to do some sort of wifi reboot during or after.

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