Wireless drop-outs

I recently downgraded all three of my Intel mac's to Tiger (from Leopard) they are now all 10.4.10.
With 10.5.0/5.1/5.2 the macbook pro and macbook were completely unusable as they would not connect for more than a few seconds. The mac mini would still connect but the network performance was horrendous (as expected) and it would drop out several times an hour.
Now that all three machines are back on Tiger, the two laptops connections are flawless but the mac mini continued to drop out, but much less frequently. Network performance was still poor although not as poor. something I had experienced for months before I 'upgraded'.
I then threw away my airport extreme base station and set up a Belkin N1 router. I now have fast reliable connections to all my machines. I have only had one drop out on my mac mini and it reconnected strait away.
My questions are these:
Is it safe to install 10.4.11 or is that still essentially broken as I experienced before my three month leopard ordeal?
Are there any updates post 10.4.11 that I can't have unless I install 4.11 that would make it worth the risk?
All these leopard airport fixes that are promised/have recently come out are any of them compatible with Tiger, and are any of them in fact airport card firmware?
When do you think it's going to be safe to go back? Personally I don't see myself doing the 'upgrade' this year now.
Any help/comments much appreciated. No fan boys slating me please, believe me I wish it had 'just worked'

Curious that, but not the first person to have dropouts, but I don't on 10.4.11, but most of my 10.4.11 Wifis are not Apple Airport cards. The problem seems worst on IntelMacs.
I'd try 10.4.11 on the Mini with a Permission Fix & reboot both before & after the update.
Just some Security, QT, iTunes & such updates... not sure if they work with earlier versions.

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Wireless drop outs: draytek vigor 2600: macbook pro: channel 6

Hi all
Thought I'd drop this is, as it may help others??
I've been having real problems with unstable wireless drop outs, it's been driving me barmy!
I've been using a draytek vigor 2600 plus, when connected via ethernet, it's brilliant, use wireless and it *****, with drop outs every minute or so, and when it does connect the strength is shocking even though my router is above me, about 6 foot!
I used www.istumbler.net/ and found that my next door neighbour has his router on channel 6... same as mine, since this I've changed to channel 12 and now signal strength is full (on the airport logo) and haven't had a drop out for hours...
I'll post again if the status changes, but give it a try if you are having problems similar...
hope this helps.
Az

I have been having the same issue for the last two weeks. No real indication as to why it ever began other than I had turned off my router and Airport Extreme Base Station off for a weekend while I was away from my place.
iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch, all have no issues at all with my Airport Extreme Base Station. Can stay connected throughout my living room, bathroom, bedroom, no issues whatsoever.
My 5 month old MacBook Pro 2.66 GHz Core i7 Airport is sometimes perfect, able to connect, DHCP, and browse without issue. Then, for no reason, I won't be able to join my wireless network, or when I can join, I can't pick up an IP address. And then it will connect, pick up and IP, and then it won't browse. No real rhyme or reason to when this will happen, or when it works.
I thought that it was an issue with my MacBook Pro, but then my sister visited with her brand new MacBook Pro 2.26 Intel Core 2 Duo, and while a month ago she was able to connect, DHCP, and browse without issue, this weekend she had all of the same issues I was having.
My XBOX 360 and MacBook Pro have absolutely no issues with the wired connection. Only my WAN seems to have this issue.
Did you ever find anything more to this?

Why Apple isn't acknowledging the wireless drop out problem on iMacs?

Hey everyone
I've been having constant wireless drop out on my iMac while all other computers at home work perfectly.
I've noticed I am not the only one who is having this problem and it seems to be a software/ upgrade problem that Apple needs to get fixed.
Anyone knows any progress on this topic?

Unfortunately you simply can't say that this is a general problem. Or, rather, you can, but you won't be taken seriously. Some of us (me, for example) have several Macs, including several iMacs, and simply do not see your problem with any of them. It may be a problem linked to the specific model. It may be a problem linked to a specific batch. It may be a problem linked to specific 3rd-party software. It may be linked to any of several other mutually incompatible factors. What it definitely is NOT is a general problem.
Those who have it need to provide further data _to Apple_ using the feedback system so that the actual cause of the problem can be identified and a fixe set up.
Insisting that it is a general problem when it quite clearly is not will tend to get you ignored.
Which precise model of iMac are you using? There are several different 24" Intel iMacs; which one is yours? When was it built? Where was it built? (You can tell this by looking at the serial number.) Are you running any 3rd-party haxies? What stuff are you running? Does any of it launch at startup? What make and model wireless router are you connecting to? How are you connecting to it, using 'G' or 'N'? Is your connection encrypted, and if so, using WEP (bad) or WPA (better)? Are you broadcasting SSID? How close are you to the wireless device? Is there something in the way, such as a wall or a floor? What are the walls/floor made of? Are you using other devices which access the same general radio band (you do know that wireless systems are radios, don't you?) such as wireless landline phones, or microwaves, or some cell phones, or baby monitors? Are there other wireless systems in your immediate neighborhood, and what channels are they broadcasting on? What channel is your wireless router broadcasting on?
Are you beginning to see the number of possible reasons for your problem?

HH3 wireless drop outs

Hi have had Infinity for some 6 months and quite happy would like the NAT loop back in the HH3 but the problem I have now is both my wireless printer and Wii will not keep connected, I have to turn the printer of and back on every time I want to print Not much point having a wireless for the whole house. and the Wii box needs me to log into the HH3 page and to delete the Wii in the network devices so that it can re-connect.
I read on here that some people have a Type B router is this just a software update or do I need a replacement router???
I have to say I have had issue since changing from BeThere with the printer as on there router it stayed on line all the time but now it is every time and the Wii box now doing this suggest that it is breaking down.
One further point when we have more than 4 items on wireless in the house at any one time the wireless drops out lots of time and then takes some time to even show up it is as if the wireless chip is restarting, a wired connection is fine.
Any advice or help would be great.
Thanks and Happy New Year to you all.

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[SOLVED] Wireless drops out

Hey there,
I have been getting weird problems with my wireless dropping in and out every say 30 secs. I recently did a global update so I am thinking something may have broken.
I also use wicd to manage my wireless connection. Also there is no problem with the wireless itself as another person using the connection is having no problem at all.
Anyone got any ideas on the matter?
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Oh wow, is that a coincidence. My thread in this forum that says Samba disconnects my wifi, I use the same wifi driver, and also use Wicd, and when I try to connect to a Samba share, my wifi starts disconnecting and reconnecting every 10-20 seconds. These problems sound related IMO.

E4200 - wireless drops out

I am disappointed with the Linksys E4200 and E2500. Both had wireless issues with it dropping out. The Cisco connect was a nice feature, but the problems started when it wanted to update. I have gone back to the tried and true WRT54GL. I recommend that people should wait a year till Cisco fixes the problems.

The performance of your new router depends on various factors apart from the router itself. The wireless devices in your network, are they wireless G or wireless N devices? If they're wireless G devices, you won't really see any difference, and in fact any N devices in your network would also suffer because of that. Apart from that, placement of the router also matters.
Avoid keeping the router in a corner or under the table or something like that. Ideally you'd want to keep it at a higher location. The signal always travels better from a higher location to a lower location. Apart from this, you can also change channels on the router. Typically, wireless interference can cause poor signal strength and speed. Changing channels helps alleviate this problem to some extent. I'd suggest trying channels 1, 3, 6 or 9. You'll have to try each and observe which channel gives you the best performance. Every network environment is different, so what works for one network may not necessarily work for another. Please let me know if you need any further help with this.

Wireless dropping out to new TV

We have just bought a Sony Bravia Smart TV. It has built in wi-fi and connects without a problem. The problem is it drops out after about 30 to 40 minutes. We have a BT home hub 2.0 which is wired to the BT line and wired to the home PC. I've tried it with the computer left on and the computer off and it makes no difference. What is really annoying is that it totally disconnects the hub and we lose the BB connection all together. It still shows all the lights on the hub but you have to run the diagnostic or restart the hub to get an internet connection again. If we do that and get the connection back and try the wi-fi to the TV again it just drops out straight away and we have to re-start the hub all over again. The hub is in the back bedroom which is about 10 feet directly above the TV so I dont think it's interference and our phones and tablet connect fine although we obviously don't stay on them so long. We have the free trial with Netflix and have tried watching a film which took 2 days and 3 connections to see - frustrating.
Any help or thoughts would be most welcome. Thank you.
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What sort of speeds do you get with your broadband. Presumably you are on ADSL as you are still using a HH2.
Use this speed tester.
http://speedtest.btwholesale.com/
Wireless is prone to interference and drop outs if the signal is weak. Streaming video is usually best using an Ethernet connection or if not possible, using powerline adaptors.
If you have a wireless enabled computer you could download, install and run inSSider. It will show you the wireless channels and which one your Homehub is on. You want to find the channel with the least congestion, ie. least number of users. Once you have that you need to change your homehub onto that channel. This may improve the signal to the TV.
See link for insider
http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/
See link how to change channel on homehub
http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14094

Wireless Dropping out

Hello.
It does seem like a usual post here, but my wireless connection constantly drops out.
However, it is only when there is a download.
I gather that I'll probably get a "try changing the channel as you're dropping out due to interference" response, however, I would like to understand why this is only happening during downloads.
Issue and Situation
Upon attempting downloads (software patches, game patches, software download, etc), I lose my connection to the wireless 3-4 minutes after the download.
If I do not download, I never lose my connection.
The wireless will not let me connect back to it, unless I reset the router.
The wireless is in the room above me. It's a BT Home Hub v2.
If I put my computer right next to the router, I do not lose my connection to the wireless during download (hence it must be a frequency issue).
I have never had the issue in the past 7 months, it only suddenly happened 2 weeks ago.
As I said, I want to know why , especially why it won't let me connect back to it, as I gather I'm going to have to change the router frequency. (On a side note, given I have 7 BT wireless, 1 BTFON, 1BTOpenzone, and 3 Sky routers in range, what frequency would be best?)

you can try downloading inssider2 (istumbler if MAC) and then run it. This will show the broadcasting networks round about you and their channels including your own. If you then enter your router and change your wireless channel to a free or less congested channel.
this takes the guesswork out of channel selection
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Wireless dropping out - a bit disgruntled with BT.

Hi,
I had a problem with my BT Home Hub 2. The wireless connection regularly drops out to all the wire;ess devices in the house. (3 x laptops) and there is nothing that seems to be in common when it decides to fail and it doesn't come back online unless I restart the hub.
The BB connection to the exchange is okay and fast, our BT Vision Youview box has no issues and when the wireless drops I can still connect using a LAN ethernet cable. The hub is plugged into the main socket.
inSSIDer shows that the wireless signal disappears when it drops out
I have a spare non-BT wireless router and that works fine without dropping out but of course BT Vision does not work throgh that.
I have changed the filter. The hub is plugged directly into the main socket (I have no extensions) and I have tried different wireless channels. Our small bungalow is isolated and there are two other wireless signals just receivable from my house from an nearby school. One is on channel 1, the other on 11. I use channel 6. When the wireless is working we get a full strength signal throughout the property.
I contacted BT through chat regarding this issue and they first of all tried to sell me a wireless extender. I said not to bother because my contract is up soon and I'll just swap to either Sky or TalkTalk and I'll get a new hub. This was the reaction:
"Soumik Majumdar: I have gone ahead and replaced the hub for you. You were using a hub 2. Now you will be receiving your brand new hub 3 within next 3-4 business working days. Please wait for the hub to reach you."
Yesterday I received a refurbished Hub 2 not the new Hub 3 they promised. And guess what, it doesn't work as well as the old one. I have had to restart it six times in the last day to get the wireless back, which is worse that the old hub.
I guess I'll just changed providers so I get a new hub.
Thoughts anyone please?
Thanks,
Leinorackham

I believe the HH2 does have a known problem with the wireless becoming problematic through time. I know you have already done this but the best thing is to contact BT and ask them for another replacement and preferably a HH3.

PDA ADHOC ETHERNET WIRELESS DROPS OUT

I'm utilizing an AD-HOC computer to computer wireless Ethernet connection between my laptop and my PDA to transfer data between my laptop and PDA.
The LabVIEW application on the PDA runs great once I have a good wireless Ethernet radio connection! However, I am having continuous trouble with the wireless Ethernet radio connection. It can take minutes to finally establish connection at times, sometimes it won't connect for hours, sometimes it will connect immediately. The signal strength meter on the PDA will go from good to best to good to dropping out entirely. Some days it works great, connects quickly, and stays connected. Some days it hardly connects at all. It all appears only to happen in my work environment, which includes being in a building and also outside on a test track. I tried the system at home over a recent 4 day holiday. The system connected immediately, and stayed connected every time for the entire four days. I would shutdown and re-connect from time to time. Every time the response was excellent.
I'm thinking that I may be having some type of radio interference problem at work. I've tried 9 different broadcast frequencies to no avail. Is there a way of increasing the signal strength of the radio frequency being transmitted from the PDA? Something I'm missing?
The Dell Axim 51V PDA is running windows mobile with the latest bios upgrade. The latest bios version hasn't offered any soultion. I also have the same issues with a Dell Axim 3.1 PDA running pocket PC 2003.

You don't say which WIFI you are using but the following is applicable to 54g and the older standard.
This is the nature of WIFI but you can improve matters.... If someone has one of those television transmitters that uses WIFI 2.4Ghz you are probably shot although I can report that the XBOX 360 controllers seem to exist very happily....
Set the data rate as low as possible to support the application and also set the Fragment Threshold and RTS thresholds lower (750 from 2500).
You may also find it helpfull to turn of auto channel hopping and fix the channel as well as turning off features such as pre-amble length detection and if there is a roaming decision parameter adjust it for distance rather than throughput. Turn it off if you can.
I also found that fixing IP addresses routes etc. seems to help as well and it seems more tolerant of drop outs as a result.
This is generally in the configuration parameters for the hardware.
This will need to be done at both ends.... I suspect however that an access point would be better as the antenna location will or should be optimised That's one reason why people use them. In an industrial context the best I have seen to date is the CISCO stuff but it costs....
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Wireless drop out problems - usual stuff

Hi, I am new to this forum and have used some of your suggestions to help me.. so thanks everyone....however
we still have problems and we are now getting pretty fed up.
I am not technical so bear with me..
We have 2 wireless lap tops and 1 pc connected to our Home Hub 1.0 another pc is connected by ethernet cable.
Over months now the wireless connection has dropped and, at worst, has taken hours of fiddling, resetting of the Home Hub to work.   Occasionally even sitting directly in front of the home hub, my laptop and the HH cannot find each other. The wierd thing is that whilst I can't get my own connection working I could (until I opted out) get BT Fon and Openzone also looks available when I can't get any connection. Since it looks like it is also be shared from my broadband I am not happy.
I have changed the channel a couple of times from the 1 setting it was on to 11 (problems again) to 6 now (too early to tell).   Is there anything more I can do? (Can't move the HH from front of the house and it is on a shelf not the floor).   The fix is usually for a short time however. I have talked to the Help Desk and they have tested the line and told me to move the Hub to the centre of the house, which is simply not possible owing to telephone sockets ets.
Would some sort of wireless repeater help, in which case - which one would be compatible with HH1?   Is Openzone and BTFon 'stealing' connectivity in some way.
Thanks for your thoughts in anticipation. Epona.

Are your wireless card drivers up to date?
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T60 Wireless drops out randomly

Hi,
We have several Lenovo T60 Thinkpads in our company. Every now and then the wireless disconnects and users are limited to work locally. As we have all our documents on a server that is very annoying to our users.
As far as I could investigate the problem there is no specific reason linking to when the connection get lost.
The only indicator is that the little green wireless symbol next to the bluetooth symbol is not activate any more.
If I check in the hardware device manager the wireless is on. Switiching it to off and again to on does not work. I also deactiviate that Windows might turn the power of to save energy.
The only solution thats works to bring back the wireless device to run so far is to restart the computer.
We have a Draytek vigor Router but as other users with different laptops dont face the same problem i would limit it to the T60 series.
Anyone facing the same problem?Any suggestions?

have you tried moving the hub as far from the pc as possible in case there is interference from the pc/power supply.
have you tried a new filter and if possible a different router - even borrowed just to try it. it is not impossible that there is a problem with the hub but need to try other things first
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Wireless drop out

First time I have had this but started today. Appears to lose the wireless signal to the HTC and only comes back when around 1 metre from the hub. Never had this problem before and always been a stable wireless connection.
HTC refused to connect even after a reboot, so HUB at fault. Lets see how long it stays on this time.
Pretty rubbish when you consider the wired connection has been so erratic with speed and connection these last few weeks and now the wireless is starting to play up.

cherkhan wrote:
Tried locking in to single channels. No effect whatsoever. Still droppong the signal. Also tried the netbook, same thing. Yet another dodgy hub then with a wireless signal that just dies.
Hub appears to decline DHCP for the HTC or Netbook for no apparent reason.
Contact mod chris, he has resolved my issue, i should have my replacement hh3 here tues.
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T60 wireless - OK on XP, drops out on Windows 7

Hello,
I have a T60 (2007-FVG) and I have a HDD for it with XP on and one with Windows 7 Ultimate on. On XP the wireless is fine in my living room whereas on Win7 the wireless drops out every time I go into my living room. I also have an R61 laptop with Windows 7 on and this is also fine, in fact when I have the T60 and the R61 side by side the R61's connection is fine but the T60 drops out.
I have downloaded the latest driver from your site (13.04.0000) and installed it. On the properties of the device tab it shows as Atheros Communications - 9/6/2009 - 2.0.0.75. All of the wireless settings seem the same between XP and Win7.
Any ideas on how I can fix this, it cannot be a hardware issue.
Many Thanks

Hello,
Perhaps the operating system is putting the wireless adapter to sleep in order to save power? In the device properties for the Wireless Adapter, try disabling the option to turn off the device to save power, and see if that makes any difference.
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I bought a WRT320N Linksys router and keeps dropping out

I bought a Linksys WRT320N Router about 2 weeks ago. I am very upset that I did not take time to do my home work before I got screwed. I brought the router home and connected it. I am pretty familiar with networking these routers, I had the thing connected for about an hour, everything going good and then my wireless dropped out, my son started complaining he could not get his playstation 3 to work over the net, and then I did a speed test for the internet speed. I got 1 MB/s (Normally I am pegging around 30 MB/s, which is like flying, at least for me.) I was waiting for about 40-60 seconds for my homepage to come up. Disconnected my router from the computer and plugged direct into the modem and found I was still pegging 30 MB/s. Plugged back into the router and sure enough I was at 1 MB/s.I reset the router and charged on. The next day, same thing. So I called Linksys and told them what was going on. Well for one, the person on the other end of the line did not know about routers, I do not think she could even pronounce router if she tried. I spent 1.5 hours on the phone with her. After it was all done and over with her reply was " When it happens again, call us" . Oh yea, I want to spend another hour on the phone going through reset this, reset that. I already have done that.
Anyway, I got on this post and looked up my router thinking you guys may have better ideas than linksys, and of course you did. I read that these routers are overheating. So I connected a fan to the bottom of the router and I have air being sucked through the router cooling it down. So far it works okay. I went 1 week and 2 days before I had to reset. I connected a themometer to the case of the router and what did you know without the fan the router was running around 100 degrees F, the router was hanging in the air so it had plenty of ventilation. If the case is 100 deg. F, the insides must be frying. When I have the fan running the temperature of the case stays at room temperature or just a degree above. It must work some because I was going from resetting everyday to resetting every 1.5 weeks. I will keep you apprised of how the router is doing. I just have to say, Never again will I buy a linksys product. I will buy another brand until the engineers at linksys can figure out how to correct the router they have out there.
(Mod note: Edited for guideline compliance. Thank you.)
Message Edited by Vince_02 on 04-24-2009 12:18 PM

It is not possible that all WRT320N Wireless router's would act same, maybe the router you bought went bad, you should replace the router with the same model and that should resolve all your issues...

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