Wireless high density - Cisco vs World

For wireless environments with high density of clients many manufacturers (Meru, Xirrus, Ruckus, Trapeze, ...) have developed equipment and capabilities optimized to provide good performance, these features are mainly based on the use of a single channel, or the use of smart antennas and arrays. In theory, these features are quite reasonable.
But Cisco is among the few manufacturers who think that with proper design (based on microcells) can obtain a better performance in dense environments, without necessary equipment or special features. I have had problems in high density environments with Cisco, but I could not prove in practice the solutions of other manufacturers.
Has anyone been able to compare both methods in the same environment? Cisco is right? What are the most important considerations to take into account in a high density environment with Cisco equipment?
Thanks

1.  When the video calls was on-going, what radio was this being carried over? 
802.11a,g and n
2.  What is the model of your WLC? 
Cisco WLC 5508 in HA AP SSO
3.  What is the model of your AP?
73 Cisco AP 3600 and 17 AP Cisco AP 1552
4.  What is the firmware of the WLC? 
7.4.121.0
5.  Did you check for co-channel interferrence? 
Yes, exist co-chanenel inteferrence
6.  What is the speed of the APs wired Ethernet link?
1GBEthernet
7.  Did you check for speed/duplex issues of the wired Ethernet link? 
There is no  exist issues of speed/duplex
8.  What is the LAN backbone speed from the switch up to the WLC? 
1GBEthernet
9.  When doing the video calls, how many clients were associated to this AP?
We have  tested with  one user, using video calls, downloading of 4GB, sharing files by wireless network, and the conectivity is too long
Thanks for your answer.

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    You are correct, between the higher numbers of users with multiple devices the bandwidth requirements keep increasing.
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      Transmit Power Update Interval................. 600 seconds
      Transmit Power Threshold....................... -65 dBm
      Transmit Power Neighbor Count.................. 3 APs
      Min Transmit Power............................. -10 dBm
      Max Transmit Power............................. 30 dBm
      Transmit Power Update Contribution............. SNI..
      Transmit Power Assignment Leader............... WLC.MARTI.CORPO (172.17.250.50)
      Last Run....................................... 102 seconds ago
      TPC Mode....................................... Version 1
      TPCv2 Target RSSI.............................. -67 dBm
      TPCv2 VoWLAN Guide RSSI........................ -67.0 dBm
      TPCv2 SOP...................................... -85.0 dBm
      TPCv2 Default Client Ant Gain..................   0.0 dBi
      TPCv2 Path Loss Decay Factor...................   3.6
      TPCv2 Search Intensity......................... 10 Iterations
    AP Name                          Channel    TxPower       Allowed Power Levels   
    --More-- or (q)uit
    AP.CORPO.P11.OESTE                6          3/8 (17 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P11.NORTE               *1         *7/8 ( 5 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P11.SUR                 *1         *7/8 ( 5 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P10.NORESTE              11         6/8 ( 8 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P8.NORESTE               1          7/7 ( 4 dBm) [22/19/16/13/10/7/4/4]
    AP.CORPO.P8.SURESTE               11         6/8 ( 8 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P7.NORTE                *1         *7/8 ( 5 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P10.SURESTE              6          6/8 ( 8 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P10.SUROESTE             11         5/8 (11 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P8.SUROESTE              1          5/7 (10 dBm) [22/19/16/13/10/7/4/4]
    AP.CORPO.P6.NORESTE               6          6/8 ( 8 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P7.OESTE                 11         6/8 ( 8 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P8.NOROESTE              11         5/8 (11 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P6.NOROESTE              1          5/7 (10 dBm) [22/19/16/13/10/7/4/4]
    AP.CORPO.P6.SURESTE               1          6/7 ( 7 dBm) [22/19/16/13/10/7/4/4]
    AP.CORPO.P6.SUROESTE              6          5/8 (11 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P12.SUROESTE             1          4/7 (13 dBm) [22/19/16/13/10/7/4/4]
    AP.CORPO.P12.NOROESTE             11         4/8 (14 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P12.SURESTE              11         6/8 ( 8 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.TERRAZA.SUR              6          6/8 ( 8 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P7.SUR                  *1         *7/7 ( 4 dBm) [22/19/16/13/10/7/4/4]
    AP.CORPO.P9.NORTE                *6         *7/7 ( 4 dBm) [22/19/16/13/10/7/4/4]
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    AP.CORPO.P9.SUR                  *1         *6/8 ( 8 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P9.OESTE                 1          6/7 ( 7 dBm) [22/19/16/13/10/7/4/4]
    AP.CORPO.P12.NORESTE              1          6/7 ( 7 dBm) [22/19/16/13/10/7/4/4]
    AP.CORPO.TERRAZA.NORTE           *11        *1/8 (23 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P1.NORTE                 11        *2/8 (20 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P1.SUR                   1         *1/7 (22 dBm) [22/19/16/13/10/7/4/4]
    AP.CORPO.P10.NOROESTE             6          5/8 (11 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
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      Transmit Power Update Interval................. 600 seconds
      Transmit Power Threshold....................... -70 dBm
      Transmit Power Neighbor Count.................. 3 APs
      Min Transmit Power............................. -10 dBm
      Max Transmit Power............................. 30 dBm
      Transmit Power Update Contribution............. SNI..
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      TPC Mode....................................... Version 1
      TPCv2 Target RSSI.............................. -67 dBm
      TPCv2 VoWLAN Guide RSSI........................ -67.0 dBm
      TPCv2 SOP...................................... -85.0 dBm
      TPCv2 Default Client Ant Gain..................   0.0 dBi
      TPCv2 Path Loss Decay Factor...................   3.6
      TPCv2 Search Intensity......................... 10 Iterations
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    AP.CORPO.P11.OESTE               *40        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P11.NORTE               *36        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P11.SUR                 *40        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P10.NORESTE             *153       *2/8 (20 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P8.NORESTE              *161       *3/8 (17 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P8.SURESTE              *40        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P7.NORTE                *48        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P10.SURESTE             *36        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P10.SUROESTE            *149       *2/8 (20 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P8.SUROESTE             *36        *2/5 (11 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P6.NORESTE              *153       *2/8 (20 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P7.OESTE                *149       *3/8 (17 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P8.NOROESTE             *48        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P6.NOROESTE             *161       *2/8 (20 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P6.SURESTE              *36        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P6.SUROESTE             *40        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P12.SUROESTE            *36        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P12.NOROESTE            *48        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P12.SURESTE             *161       *3/8 (17 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.TERRAZA.SUR             *157       *1/8 (23 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P7.SUR                  *157       *2/8 (20 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P9.NORTE                *40        *2/5 (11 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    --More-- or (q)uit
    AP.CORPO.P9.SUR                  *161       *4/8 (14 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P9.OESTE                *153       *2/8 (20 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P12.NORESTE             *36        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.TERRAZA.NORTE           *44        *1/8 (23 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]
    AP.CORPO.P1.NORTE                *44        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P1.SUR                  *64        *1/5 (14 dBm) [14/11/8/5/2/2/2/2]
    AP.CORPO.P10.NOROESTE            *161       *1/8 (23 dBm) [23/20/17/14/11/8/5/2]

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