Wireless network and ethernet network

Hi everybody,
I have got a Powerbook connected to a wireless router via airport accessing the internet, and a desktop g4 accesing the internet via ethernet cable through the same router-but I cannot connect the two computers between each other ?
can´t ping them via IP address..
although they appear in the network-finder..??
all help highly appreciated!

Mark,
Thanks for the clear and precise answers and your symantics in your posts. You might think "What is he on about?", but I must have had a bad week, most of the posters in the forum have been unable to provide clear and precise answers, or just don't answer the questions. You have, and believe me, it makes it 100x easier to solve your issue and 100x more rewarding.
OK. As the Powerbook works fine when plugged in via Ethernet, I can rule out anything decided by the computers themselves.
It really sounds like the "IP Subnet Mask" for the LAN port on the router is something like 255.255.255.0. You can confirm this by checking the router configuration. If you have trouble doing this (I'm not sure if it's software driven or web-based) I can download the manual and give a step by step guide.
The issue may therefore be caused by the router distributing IP addresses in different sub-nets based on the connection being wireless or ethernet based. ie. IP addresses in the range 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.100 for ethernet connections, and IP addresses in the range 192.168.2.2 to 192.168.2.100 for wireless connections.
Again, this is confgurable in the router, if it has been set. The solution is up to you, either change the IP address ranges so that they are all like 192.168.1.x, or change the LAN port IP subnet mask to 255.255.0.0.
Let us know what you find.

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Bridge net ...................... 0 (0x0)
Bridge number ................... 0 (0x0)
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Bytes Transmitted ............... 1741
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Packets Received ................ 62
Bytes Received .................. 2179
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Packets for out of range socket . 0
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