Wireless Outdoor Coverage

Oddball Request. County Fair Grounds wants to offer Wireless access. They have a 40 foot pole in center of the Fairgrounds that they think they can mount an AP to. Coverage would be about 800ft diameter. Cisco Outdoor AP in a NEMA enclosure with omni-directional antenna(s)??? I would assume both 2.4 and 5 Ghz. After reading some other threads, I'm going to have a problem with client's path back to the AP correct? Is mesh the only way? Thoughts? THANK YOU.

Hi Douglas,
It could work of course, but a lot of as you known depends on the client. You need to test it with different client devices. What about interference on site? You should use 2.4 GHz band.
With laptops it could work, with smartphones over the big distance - maybe not.
Please take a look at the mesh AP design guide:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/mesh/7.0MR1/design/guide/MeshAP_70MR1.html#wp2187586
I pointed specifically to the client-ap distance/power table.

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I want to increase my wireless network coverage upstairs and to the other side of my house. I have an airport extreme down stairs, can I get another one upstairs and hard wire it in?

Yes.
It has been covered recently. I as interested in same question matter of fact but I will have to look up details or you could search.
Bob Timmons has contributed to this question so look his up and find it as well.
See this link;
https://discussions.apple.com/message/18017606#18017606
Also this;
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Wireless Outdoor Networking

Hi Guys,
I have been doing a fair bit of work with indoor wireless networking. I was wondering if I could ask a couple of questions about outdoor wireless networks if I may :).
1. Wireless Mesh Networking. Is this really a solution to interconnect buildings over wireless with point-to-point connectivity?
2. How does a service provider like "the cloud" provide access over an area with wireless connectivity for end users? What kind of wireless network design would be employed here? Would they just have lots of APs in shopping malls that you would have like an indoor network, and how do they get the service coverage in open spaces, like roads, parks etc etc.
I am looking for info on both types of outdoor networks. Point to point only to connect buildings and flooding SSIDs within a large outdoor area in which customers can connect?
Can anyone help me, as this is a very interesting subject.
Also, have I got the term correct. A wireless Mesh network is for point to point wireless networks?
Many thx indeed,
Ken

Hi Ken,
Wireless Mesh is a different concept altogether, and it's really not intended to be used as a point-to-point bridge. Mesh is a way to deploy access points in an outdoor space or anywhere that's difficult to run a LAN cable to. This AP will use the 2.4GHz band for client connectivity, and it will send all backhaul traffic across the 5GHz link to another AP. As long as the 5GHz backhaul eventually finds a Mesh AP that is connected to the Ethernet network, it will have connectivity.
One of the best uses for Mesh is for large parking lots. You can mount an AP on a light pole, but you'd never want to run an Ethernet cable all the way out there. Instead, you'd use a Mesh AP and have the 5GHz radio pointed back at your office building, where another Mesh AP is plugged into the local network. So now your clients/customers can connect wirelessly to the AP in the parking lot, and the parking lot AP sends this data wirelessly to your building.
It's called Mesh because you can have a literal mesh of APs scattered across large regions, some of which are connected to the network, others of which are isolated with wireless backhauls. Cisco runs a proprietary algorithm for calculating the best path for traffic to flow to get to an AP with a network connection.
As for your question about a "cloud" company, it all depends on the design. You can install indoor APs that connect to antennas outside, and these can connect your clients. Mesh can be a better solution, but sometimes it's not needed when only small areas need to be covered. Plus, Mesh is far more expensive than a traditional design, especially since it requires wireless LAN controllers. But as for large areas like you're talking, such as roads and parks, Mesh is certainly the best way to go.
I hope that's more of what you're looking for. Let me know if you have any more questions!
Jeff

Cisco WLC 5508 Wireless Outdoor Mesh

I noticed that the 5508 requires a plus license feature upgrade in order to support Enterprise Wireless Mesh. My understanding is that enterprise wireless mesh is indoor wireless mesh support. Will the 5508 support outdoor wireless mesh without the plus license feature set?
Thanks in advance

"Enterprise Wireless Mesh" should just refer to Indoor Mesh.
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Wireless AP coverage area of 1042

I've been tasked with deploying a new wirelss LAN for a call center in the
Philippines. I've considered going with a the 1042 10 pack and a 2112 wireless controller, in the hopes that 2 AP's per floor would be sufficient. Can anyone tell me what a conservative estimate on the square footage that a single 1042 can cover is? I understand that walls and electromagnetic feilds can cause interferece and affect signal strength, but is there a good rule of thumb for determining AP coverage range?
Thanks.

I've considered going with a the 1042 10 pack and a 2112 wireless controller,
I wouldn't recommend the 2100. I'd consider the newer WLC2504 to support up to 50 APs.
Can anyone tell me what a conservative estimate on the square footage that a single 1042 can cover is?
Depends on the layout of the location. I was born and raised in the Philippines so I know what the constructions of the walls and buildings are like. Buildings like hallow or cinder blocks. Newer buildings have pre-fabricated, post-tensioning walls. It's very rare to find mult-storey buildings with plywood walls. Because of the walls, wireless signals tend to get absorbed.
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Types of wireless traffic expected?
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How to improve the wireless LAN coverage?

Hi all,
We are using Cisco 1200 access point in our small retail shops and use some wireless heldheld devices to connect the wireless network. Since the shops are inside the shopping plaza, there are many other wireless access point which interference our wireless clients. The access point were installed in the middle of the shop, sometimes, our client walked to the shop entrance (< 10m from the access point), the wireless network was disconnected and it may try to connect the other unknown access point. I tried to change the frequent but it doen't help. We are using a pair of 2.2dBi Dipole Anntenna wit the AP and mount in on the wall (~ 1m above the ground). Is there any suggestions to improve the coverage? Is there any improvement if I use a more powerful anntenna (e.g. 6.5 dBi Wall Mount anntenna)?
Thanks,
Dovelet

Dovelet,
I was going to suggest upgrading your AP to 802.11a but you are probably using Symbol handhelds and they don't support 802.11a yet (for that matter I don't think there is a handheld that supports 802.11a yet).
Use a computer and scan the airwaves to see what APs are out there and what frequency they are on. Configure your AP to a different channel either 1,6 or 11 (that no one else is on).
Put two 6 dBi Patch Wall Mount Antennnas 3 to 4 feet apart on one wall, part # AIR-ANT2460P-R. If you have a long narrow store the patch antennas will be your best bet, They have a narrow beam and you will get less multipath distortion from the radio waves bouncing off your walls. You can also get an Antenna mount kit, part # AIR-ACC2662 to help better aim your patch antennas.
If you have a square or circular store place two omnidirectional antennas in the center of the store, use a high grade low loss cable like part # AIR-CAB100ULL-R. Or for that matter put your current AP high in the center of the store. Run Cat5e cable to it and use a Power Injector to provide power to your AP over the cat5e. You can also add the high gain omnidirctional antennas (2 of them) to this configuration without needing the low loss cable.
These are powerful antennas and you don't want your signal going into the store across the way from you. So take a laptop or your hand held walk across the way to the front of the store and see what kind of signal you get. Reduce the power setting of your AP so the signal doesn't bleed into the store across the way from you and if you use omnidirectional antennas into stores on either side of you.
Make sure you mount the antennas high 8 to 10 feet. I assume you have your Encryption set,SSID broadcast disabled and your handhelds configured to only connect to your APs SSID.
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Has anyone deployed outdoor VoWiFi?
I am charged with studying the feasability of an outdoor wireless voice solution for a large outdoor courtyard between several buildings.
The layout of the campus would require a mesh network. I would most likely use the new 1532I outdoor access points.
I am of the assumption that the phones would opperate on 2.4 Ghz and the APs would backhaul the data on 5Ghz?
In all likelihood, I could probably get it to work, but how well?
Would a deployment scenario such as this even be advisable to attempt?

Hey Philip,
VoWLAN for MESH is not recomeneded by Cisco for the following reasons:
- Mesh is less stable than the other AP modes like local
- Mesh will force the clients to use 2.4 GHz (unless for some very rare situations)
- Voice is not recommended for 2.4 GHz and all Cisco guides asks to use 5 GHz
- This scenario is not supported by the Cisco TAC
Cheers,
Nour

Wireless Outdoor Bridge Distance

I have a customer that wants to use a 1532I bridge to connect two buildings. The buildings are about 700 feet apart with a clear LoS between the two points. Would the 1532I reach this distance?

The 1532 is rated at 32 dBm - spec sheet
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5679/ps12831/data_sheet_c78-728356.html
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"Satisfaction does not come from knowing the solution, it comes from knowing why." - Rosalind Franklin
‎"I'm in a serious relationship with my Wi-Fi. You could say we have a connection."

1310 wireless outdoor bridge - strong Encryption configuration - high priority

Hi All,
Below is bridge configration . I would like to know with this below   configuration data traffic will get compelete encrytion ?? any better encryption configuration ?? as I read wpa will not provide complete encryption. please help
network topology
R1--------------SW1<-----------------> root bride-1 <---------------------------> Non-root bridge-1 <------------------------ >SW2( remote office)--------LAN hosts
SW1- Gi0/0- 10.200.32.1/29             BVI- 32.2/29                               BVI - 32.3/29                                   SW2-GI0/0 - 32.4/29
network setup : SW1 - LAN port to root bridge connection -- Gi 0/0 - ip address configured -10.200.32.1/29
                         Root-brdge -------------------------------------------- BVI 10.200.32.2/29 -----
                         Non root bridge----------------------------------------BVI 10.200.32.3/29
                         SW2 LAN port-Non root bridge ----------------- Gi0/0 10.200.32.4/29
both bridge have only BVI configured and no VLAN or subniterface on the both bridge .
SW1 and SW2 port connected to bridges are not part of vlan , ports configured with specfic IP address
dot11 ssid
   authentication open
   authentication key-management wpa
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bridge irb
interface Dot11Radio0
no ip address
no ip route-cache
encryption mode ciphers aes-ccm
station-role root bridge
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
interface FastEthernet0
no ip address
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
hold-queue 80 in
interface BVI1
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no ip route-cache
ip default-gateway 10.200.32.1
ip http server
no ip http secure-server
control-plane
bridge 1 route ip
************************************Configuration on non root bridge.******************************************************************
dot11 ssid
   authentication open
   authentication key-management wpa
   wpa-psk ascii 7 123456
bridge irb
interface Dot11Radio0
no ip address
no ip route-cache
encryption mode ciphers aes-ccm
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
interface FastEthernet0
no ip address
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
hold-queue 80 in
interface BVI1
ip address 10.200.32.3 255.255.255.248
no ip route-cache
ip default-gateway 10.200.32.2
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no ip http secure-server
control-plane
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Hi there ..
I want to make sure I understand. You are concerned about the encryption of the wireless tranmission over the bridge correct ? I see based on your config you are using WPA/AES. This isnt standard based, if you wanted to be more stnadards based you should use WPA/TKIP or WPA/AES. Both are very secure. I would lease with WPA/AES. Again this is only for the encryption.
If you want stronger authentcation you might consider 802.1X.
"Satisfaction does not come from knowing the solution, it comes from knowing why." - Rosalind Franklin

Is my Macbook Pro the only one with lousy wireless reception/coverage

Hi,
I was expecting great things when i received my Macbook Pro last week. I was also prepared to go through a lot of testing for sound issues and heat, as i've read from so many other posts (my MBP seem to have none of these issues in any major way).
I used to work on my Powerbook G4 from 2005 which had a decent wireless reception (even compared to my wife's ibook G4).
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This is also basically what i see everywhere else with this MBP.
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Best Regards,
Lasse,
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I'm curious, when did you get your MBP and what is the serial number of your MBP?
Thanks
i read early on that with the new antenna placement
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How could a firmware update conceivably change the size of the headset jack, (or any other aspect of the phone hardware)? Are you serious??
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Hi,
we have installed a wireless outdoor setup in point to point. i need to get a few doubts cleared on outdoor wireless tech.
1) does cleanair in 802.11a work and if so will it detect any interference between the two outdoor ap's ( i read that 802.11a doesnot support cleanair, and this is not client access. i need to only detect any inteference between the RAP and MAP)
2) What is the usual downtime on 802.11a while dynamic channel selection happens. i have seen disconnection in some cases upto 20 mints on 801.11a band.
3) what is the recommended datarate between RAP and MAP (i have read to keep 25mbps now it is in auto, is this ideal)
appreciate your help,
regards,Arjun

Hi Emmett,
Sadly there are no 1300 Series with "A" or "N" Radios.
For "A" try the 1400 Series
For "N" try the 1250 Series
Cisco Unified Wireless Network Quick Ordering Guide
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5679/ps6548/prod_brochure0900aecd80565e00_ps6087_Products_Brochure.html
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How do I setup my Airport Extreme so that I can extend the coverage of my existing AT&T wifi network?

Start by establishing a permanent fixed Ethernet cable connection from one of the available LAN <-> ports on the ATT modem/router to the WAN "O" port on the AirPort Extreme.
Ethernet cabling can be run up to 300+ feet or 100 meters, so you should be able to locate the AirPort Extreme exactly where it will be needed to provide more wireless signal coverage.
Configure the AirPort Extreme to "create" a wireless network using exactly the same wireless network name, same wireless security setting, and same wireless network password that the ATT wireless is using.
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