Wireless router and beige G3 question (OS 8.6 or 9?)
I've purchased a Netgear 54 mbps wireless router to network my Macs. For now, the G4 tower and the 266 beige G3 are going to be connected through two of the hardwired ports until I can get an Airport card for the G4. The G4 is running Panther 10.3.9 and connects via built-in Ethernet. The beige is running OS 8.6 and connects via an Ethernet PCI card (the built-in port is dead). The third machine is a laptop with an Airport card.
Should I upgrade the G3 to 9.2.2 before I set up the network or can I go ahead with things as they are now?
G3 beige (OS 8.6), G4 Sawtooth (OS 10.3.9), TiBook (OS 9.2.2 and OS 10), G5 Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier
don't like being different, but on a 266MHz G3 with maybe limited memory, OS8.6 will still fly, OS9.2 starts to slow down on certain tasks.
IMHO, OS8.6 was as good as it ever got for a stable and secure Mac OS.
But you may find the update to OS9, with IE v5 and QuickTime v5 may just be worth the slowdown. Depends what you're going to use it for, I removed OS9 on my old iMac 233MHz and put OS8.6 back on. It does everything I want it to, fast.
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Wireless router and beige G3 question
I've purchased a Netgear 54 mbps wireless router to network my Macs. For now, the G4 tower and the 266 beige G3 are going to be connected through two of the hardwired ports until I can get an Airport card for the G4. The G4 is running Panther 10.3.9 and connects via built-in Ethernet. The beige is running OS 8.6 and connects via an Ethernet PCI card (the built-in port is dead). The third machine is a laptop with an Airport card.
Should I upgrade the G3 to 9.2.2 before I set up the network or can I go ahead with things as they are now?
G3 beige (OS 8.6), G4 Sawtooth (OS 10.3.9), TiBook (OS 9.2.2 and OS 10), G5 Mac OS 8.6 or EarlierThe beige is running OS 8.6
Should I upgrade the G3 to 9.2.2 before I set up the
network or can I go ahead with things as they are
now?
You should be able to go ahead now and see how it works, the OS 8.6 G3 should be able to connect to the internet, mount any shared drives from the other network Macs, and print to any shared printers (may require OS 8.6 drivers on the G3) on the other Macs. This would be useful for backing up the G3 harddrive to another Mac's larger HD and then burning to CD/DVD media, if your G3 has only the stock CD-ROM drive. If you find that something doesn't meet your needs, then you can upgrade the G3 to OS 9 later, but it should operate on the network just fine with 8.6, although I haven't used OS 8 myself in quite a while, so I could be totally wrong.
From memory, I think I had at one time networked a Performa 5200 with 8.1 and my G3 running 10.2, so I'm not sure if there are any major differences that might cause difficulties between 8.6 and 10.3.
What is your planned usage of the G3 on the network? -
Question about Linksys G Wireless Router and i cant connect my iPod Touch and PSP to it.?
I just got a new Wireless router and it works fine.The model number is WRT54G2. The internet is working and I can go on my xbox live and things like that. The only problem is that my iPod touch and things and my PSP can detect the connection but are unable to join it. Why is this. It was working fine on my previous router. Is there some security thing I have to take off? How do i do this? Thanks in advance
lovemeludo wrote:
Gollum wrote:
From your wired computer, Open setup page of router by typing http://192.168.1.1 in browser’s address bar, and typing password as "admin" and no user name. Goto wireless tab, and wireless security sub tab. Check security key here, and you can disable it as well.
I tried this and it went to a redish gray page that said "401 Unauthorized Authorization required" Help please?
It means you entered the wrong password or username, try some other passwords you might have used if the default admin doesn't work.
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Wireless router and base station help
Hello fellas -- I'll really, really appreciate any help I can get with this, so thanks in advance for any advice given. Here we go...
I purchased a MacBook (2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 160GB hard drive, 2GB RAM) about two months ago. It runs Mac OS X Tiger (10.4.9). Previously, I had a Sony Vaio desktop in my downstairs bedroom, and an HP Pavilion desktop in my mom's office upstairs. I have Comcast "high-speed" cable internet service. Downstairs (where the Vaio was) I have a surfboard cable modem with three cords coming out of the back: 1.) a power cord (obviously); 2.) a cable cord that runs into the wall for internet service; and 3.) an ethernet-looking network cable. This ethernet/network cable would have normally run right out the back of the surfboard cable modem and into the network port on the back of my Sony Vaio, but in order to provide internet service for my mom's HP upstairs, the network cable went from the back of the surboard modem and into a D-Link wireless router that we bought. Another network cable then went from the D-Link wireless router into the network port on the back of my Vaio. This provided both my Vaio and my mom's HP with good, steady cable internet access.
When I bought this new MacBook, it came with an AirPort Extreme card (no base station yet) that allowed me pick up on the wireless signal from the D-Link wireless router and this provided me with internet service. To connect to the internet, I would connect to the wireless network that my computer called "default." By this point, I had shut down and unplugged my Vaio, so it's out of the picture now -- the MacBook has replaced it. However, I left the surfboard cable moden and the D-Link wireless router plugged in, and this way I was able to connect to the default network wirelessly with my MacBook, and my mom was still provided with wireless service from the D-Link router on her HP upstairs. This worked great for awhile, until eventually this default network started getting rediculously slow and started disconnecting itself every 30 to 45 seconds -- literally. For this reason, I went out and bought an AirPort Extreme Base Station at my local Apple Store.
First, to make sure it worked, I unplugged the network cable (the one coming from the back of the surfboard cable modem) from the back of the D-Link wireless router and I plugged it directly into the base station I just bought. In other words, I took the D-Link router out of the picture and plugged the base station directly into my surfboard cable modem. This worked great, and it's how I'm connected to the internet as we speak -- it's providing me with steady, fast service. Instead of connecting to the default wireless network that was slowing me down before, I now connect to the base station's network, called "Apple Network 2b1d46." There's only one problem, though -- it involved taking the D-Link wireless router out of the picture, so now my mom can't get on the internet with her HP. The solution seemed very simple -- instead of plugging the surfboard cable modem directly into the base station, I would plug the surfboard modem into the D-Link wireless router, and then plug that into the base station. I saw no reason why this wouldn't work, and I still don't, but for whatever reason, it didn't.
This is where I need help. When I try to plug it in through the router like that, I simply can't get on the internet. Everything else works perfectly -- the surfboard cable modem's lights are properly lit, as are the D-Link router's lights. The Apple base station's status light is a solid green like it's supposed to be, and strangest of all -- when I open Internet Connect to check my AirPort status, everything is fine there as well. It says "Connected to Apple Network 2b1d46," which is the new base station network that I should be connected to, and under that it says "Connected to the internet via Ethernet," yet when I try to open Safari, it says "You are not connected to the internet," which is in direct contradiction to what Internet Connect is simultaneously telling me (that I am connected to the internet).
I've tried alot of things to trouble-shoot this. I've tried FireFox and Opera, and they can't bring up any web pages either, so I know the problem isn't just with Safari -- it's that my computer just can't connect to the internet or bring up web pages, even though Internet Connect and everything else says that it's connected. I've also run the Network Diagnostics an uncountable amount of times, and all it can tell me, in all its wisdom, is that my internet connection appears to be working fine and that I must have spelled "www.apple.com" (my home page) incorrectly (it says the same thing about any other web page I try to open). I've ran the network assistant to create a new location, and it also gets the the end of the wizard and tells me that it can't connect to the internet. Finally, I've also ran the AirPort Utility multiple times and set up the base station in every possible way, but still nothing works.
On that note, I do have one question. When you run the AirPort Utility and choose "Assist Me", at one point during the wizard it asks, "How do you connect to the internet?" Right now, remember, I have the D-Link wireless router taken out of the picture (the base station is plugged directly into the surfboard cable modem). For the answer to this part of the wizard, I chose the option that says, "I use a DSL or cable modem with a static IP address or DHCP." Obviously, given that I'm on the internet as we speak, this is working fine. However, if I bring the D-Link wireless router back into the picture and plug the base station into it (the router), and then plug the router into the surfboard modem, should I still have the same option checked (the one thats says I use a DSL or cable modem with a static IP address or DHCP), or by connecting through the router, should I change my answer to one of the other two options. The second option says, "I use a DSL or cable modem using PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE)." The third option says, "I connect to my local area network (LAN)." I've tried all three numerous times, and none of them work -- I still have the same problem getting on the internet once I connect through the D-Link router, but I thought I could at least find out which one is the right option so I could stop having to keep trying all three of them. Can anyone tell me which of those three options I should pick when connecting through the D-Link wireless router (cable modem with static IP address or DHCP, cable modem with PPPoE, or local area network).
Sorry, I know that was a long one, but if anyone can answer the previous question for me and/or give me some general advice regarding my problem with getting the internet to work once I hook up the base station through the router instead of directly into the cable modem, I would appreciate it more than you can imagine.
Thank you very much for your time and help.
-- AndrewI am doing something similar. I have the WAN port on my Linksys 4-port wired router connected to my DSL modem. My G5 and G4 computers are connected directly to the Linksys LAN ports. My older Airport Extreme (flying saucer) is connected to another LAN port on the Linksys. I had to setup the Airrport as a bridge in this configuration. I did this by using the Ethernet LAN port on the Airport instead of the WAN port. In the Airport Setup Utility I said to connect using Ethernet. This seems to work for me.
I also use manual IP addresses for everything but you will probably want to use DHCP.
Cheers,
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Quick question. I just installed a Linksys Wireless Router and voila, I am wirelessly connected. Right out of the box.
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Re: One Intel iMac and one Mac Book Pro. The Router is connected to my one and only PC in the house. This PC is "wired" as it has no wireless card. I want to keep it this way. Just want my Macs wireless.
Thanks for your help.
Intel iMac 17" and Mac Book Pro Mac OS X (10.4.6)Thank you all for all your help. I was able to get to the Setp Up page of my Router and rename the Router and create a new password. I also disabled Broadcast. And yes, I enabled Firewall.
I noticed now that the signal in my bedroom for my MacBook Pro is rather weak - sometimes I can't connect at all. Could this be because of my disabling Broadcast? Is there something I can use to boost my signal in the bedroom such as an antenna?
The signal was fine on Sunday when I first plugged in the Router out of the box without any modifications.
Again, thank you all for your help.
Jenise -
Recently moved and installed ATT DLS - I use their wireless router and connectted my airport express - Now I'm getting the Blue ? on some images - and at times - videos don't load. I've increased / deleted Cache. Suggestions? Misconfig? Could it be possible my configuration from MacBook to router isn't correct?
Thanks!JG,
Thanks for the info.
Couple of questions. I found an apple support document on this topic that opened with this line:
"AirPort Express and all AirPort Extreme base stations can use WDS. Earlier AirPort base stations can't."
If the TC is an airport extreme base station, why can't this work to extend the network? I think I misunderstand. Here is the full article:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2044?viewlocale=en_US
If I buy a new airport extreme, set it to wireless-n only as my main router, am I correct that my existing time capsule could be used as a bridge if plugged in upstairs?
Final question (and that should do it), could I take this old airport express, plug it in upstairs using the ethernet connection, and just create a separate wireless network to use with a different name?
I'd like to keep one network if possible but just kicking around short term solutions.
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What is the best way to set up my 6th Generation AirPort Extreme (A1521) to my cable modem as a wireless router and then connect my 3rd Generation Time Capsule (A1355) to my AirPort Extreme as a wireless extender? I live in a small 1 story house and I currently have the Airport Extreme connected to my cable modem in the living room and the Time Capsule plugged into the wall in my bedroom. I am able to wirelessly connect to the internet using the AirPort Extreme as my router and I can also do wireless back ups to my Time Capsule. My problem is that my connection seems to be really slow! My 1TB Time Capsule back up is only half way complete and it has been 3 days! My computer has been backing up all day and night for almost 72 hours and its still not even 75% complete. I have backed up to this Time Capsule in the past and it never took this long. I am thinking that when I set up my AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule using AirPort Utility I must have set it up incorrectly or something.
How do I set up my Airport Extreme and Time Capsule for the fastest possible internet speed and back up speed?
Thank you,AirPort Utility 5.6 works with AirPort Extreme 802.11g base stations.
It works with N version airports.
It will also show details of the AC model but cannot be used for the setup.. mostly.
I purposely got the new 6th Gen Airport Extreme so my internet connection would be a lot faster!
Your network will be much faster when you have AC client directly connected to the AE. Older client will go no faster.. but what is worse.. extend wireless is mixing new and old wireless standards.. guess what one wins.. OLD.. So when you extend wireless.. you have no improvement whatsoever. This whole post is about extending wireless.. so you cannot extend to older equipment and do any better.. maybe slightly better signal although from your comments that isn't happening either.
I would rather not have to use an ethernet at all with the TC and I don't know EOP adapters are!
If you do not use ethernet then you are going to be forced to accept slow speed.
EOP (ethernet over power). Also called homeplug in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug
Provides a method of networking over power cabling that already exists in your house.
So what your saying is for the fastest internet speed and back up speed possible I should keep my Airport Extreme plugged into my Modem and keep my TC set up as a wireless extender? Then when I want to do back ups I should plug an ethernet cable from my TC to my MacBook Pro?
To spell this out.
A wireless link to an extended device will go very slowly.. if it is not direct.
So lets say you have a laptop sitting in the lounge.. Your connection goes.. Laptop- - - - - AE- - - - -TC.
That means two wireless links.. wireless has this nasty half duplex and single channel nature.. it can send or receive (Tx or Rx) but not at the same time.
Ethernet by contrast does both at once. It is full duplex.
Wireless can talk to one client at a time.. so if there are multiple items using wireless lets say 4 devices.. then your computer gets a 25% time slice. Since wireless cannot handle multiple simultaneous connections.
Ethernet by contrast can connect multiple computers to multiple destinations at the same time.. all transmitting and receiving at full speed.
When you put all this together.. there are a couple of rules for fast connection.
1. Use ethernet at all times. Where you cannot use ethernet use anything but wireless.. eg EOP (homeplug) at least to try and get rid of wireless.
2. Where you must use wireless use it sparingly and make sure it is never more than one hop.. ie never have an extend wireless (repeater is more usual term). Repeater will cause instant slowdown of 50% and maybe up to 75% just because it is so inefficient.
3. Fastest wireless is 5ghz but it has very short range.. you need to be up close and personal to get it working.
Apple routers however unless you do manual setup I suggest are set to connect to best signal strength not best speed. It will therefore use 2.4ghz at 25% less speed than 5ghz because it is 1db better signal.. this madness means you need to setup manually for the best setup. -
Help. My Apple TV won't sync with my computer. I've done all the troubleshooting tips, but Apple TV doesn't show up in my Preferences under devices.
2. Reconnect Apple TV to iTunes.
Choose iTunes > Preferences (Mac) or Edit > Preferences (Windows), click Apple TV, and make sure "Look for Apple TVs" is selected.
I see no option to select "look for Apple TV's" in Preferences, and there is no device list at all in my sidebar.
3. If Firewall is on in Mac OS X (in the Sharing pane of System Preferences), make sure iTunes Music Sharing is selected.
There is no option to select iTunes Music Sharing in my System Preferences - see screenshot
I've updated all software, restarted Apple TV, my wireless router, and my computer. Both my computer and the Apple TV are connected to the same wireless network and both are operating properly. They just wont connect to each other.
Does anyone have any suggestions?FIRSTLY: bookmark following for further reference (it describes basic setup, both to link for syncing and to stream - from any computer.)
Apple TV (1st generation): Differences between syncing and streaming" )
Now as to your problem: If you check under "Computers" in the "Settings" menu you will most likely see the name of your iTunes library Greyed out. IF that's the case, you'll basically need to re-setup your ATV., you can do so as follows (instructions are intentionally over described, but basically your disconnecting then reconnecting your ATV1. Downside (which seems to come with all methods is that you'll have to resync all your media)
**A (not ideal but effective solution)
If ATV 1 had been working but suddenly 'disappeared" from iTunes sidebar
The following solution will almost surely work to regain your ability to Sync:
QUIT iTunes
Select "Computers" from "Settings" Menu.
Select your "greyed out" iTunes library.
This will bring up a window named "Disconnect from iTunes"
You're now given the choice to Cancel, or disconnect. WITH THE WARNING that if you disconnect any content synced with iTunes, will be erased. (in fact it will be removed from your ATV but not your computer)
Assuming ALL of your media IS on your computer, Go ahead and disconnect.
Follow instructions in the Apple doc above about setting up your ATV as a paired computer.
After you ATV gen1 reappears in the sidebar. Reset all your desired syncing preferences,
Begin syncing.
All will be fine again, (at least till the next time this occurs.) I've had to do this twice this year.
ALTERNATELY:
SHARING (a QUICKER, less destructive TEMPORARY solution (if you just want to play your media now)
You CAN set your computer to Share by following instructions in the same doc under the heading:
"How to connect to a shared computer"
HOWEVER, this will not allow you to sync info.
I've read alternate solutions on this board, one involved changing the name of your iTunes Library etc... you may wish to try this first (if it applies) https://discussions.apple.com/message/17943841?ac_cid=142432#17943841
What I'd like to know: What causes this problem... I'm suspecting iTunes updates, or any iTunes database issues or crashes. Or maybe too many visitors connecting to your other Apple devices (ATV 2 for example) or heck the weather in Guatemala... -
Hi i just bought a wireless router and i cannot get it to...
hi
i just bought a wireless router and i cannot get it to work. it is a wrt54g v6. the power light keeps flashing. I tried talking with linksys to get it fixed, but nothing is working. it says to disconnect from the modem and update my firmware, but i cant get the IP address to come up on the address bar. can someone please help me out.
thank you
angelaIf you have just bought the router and it has a flashing power light return the router. It is not worth trying to revive a broken router in that case. Return the router and get a properly working one. I would not want to start with a broker router even if you may be able to revive it. You'll never know what caused the problem and whether you will have more issues later.
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I have a Linksys WRV200 wireless router and the wireless signal is not working properly so I am unable to connect to the internet wirelessly. The wireless light is blinking green very quickly and I connect and disconnect from the network constantly. How do I get the router to work properly
Hello James,
The flashing WLAN light means activity (data getting transferred). Try disconnecting all your devices and check whether the light is still flashing or disconnect the router from internet and do the check.
Do you have your SSID as linksys or the default one? If your neighbor has the same SSID, then traffic could result from your neighbor's one. Try changing your SSID and password. Make your security WPA/WPA2.
Hope this helps,
Thanks
Vijay -
AE setup for wireless router and streaming music
I'm attempting to setup my AE base station as a wireless router and use it to stream itunes through a home stereo. I'm using a new Dell Inspriron w/internal wireless card. It is detecting other wireless networks but not seeing the AE base station (which is flashing yellow even after resetting). Any input as to what I am missing?
Hi.
I am accessing internet thru a wireless router, and it works great. Plugin AE (setup to run on the same network) and the internet gets so slow it ceases to function though I still have a valid IP. When AE is plugged in though, iTunes recognizes the speakers connected, but when I try to select them, it says 'connecting' and the program stops responding. Oh yeah, it's iTunes 5.
I've used my AE in hotels and shops where I've plugged it into an ethernet cable and the internet has worked automatically. I take it home and it stops. Try to play some music over it and it doesn't work either. What gives.
Anybody have any ideas? I'd love some help.
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Hi guys, I recently got a WRT54G v5 wireless router, and...
Hi guys, I recently got a WRT54G v5 wireless router, and when I try to play the PC multiplayer game Call of Duty 4, it kicks me for having 'No Packet Flow' and "Loss of Key Packets". I didn't get these with my other router so I know that the WRT54G is the problem. It says that you only get these problems if your router drops OOB packets which COD4 uses frequently. How do I stop the router from dropping OOB packets?
Well try reducing the MTU to 1200. And also upgrade the firmware.
To upgrade the firmware :
Connect the computer to the router.
Open the setup page (Intrnet Explorer : 192.168.1.1).
Username :
Password : admin
Go to Administration Tab. Go to firmware upgrade.
Browse and select the bin or img file thats extratcted from the download.
Start to upgrade.
Reset the router and then reconfigure it. Should work.
To check the latest firmware for ur router, click here.
Should help.
http://linksysfirmwares.googlepages.com
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Roaming between RV220W wireless router and WAP121 Access Point
Hello, I have recently purchased a RV220W wireless router and a WAP121 access point and i would like to allow my users to "roam" between the two networks as needed (so when the user is closer to whichever one they connect to that one since it has a better signal). For the most part I only have experience in cisco IOS and in actual routers not the wireless stuff so my knowledge has not exactly transfered over well.
William,
WDS will not work between the RV220W and WAP121 due to incompatible chipsets. The RV220W can be repeated using WDS by another RV220W or RV180W only. You will need to plug the WAP121 into the RV220W or try WorkGroup Bridge mode to repeat the signal.
Regarding roaming, the router or AP are not aware of each other and do not have the capability to disconnect a client and help them connect to the AP with the stronger signal. The client will switch to the stronger AP only when the original signal is lost.
The Aironet (enterprise) devices have the ability to utilize a wireless LAN controller which can help keep devices connected to the stronger signal and allow truly seamless roaming between APs.
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I havea WRT350N Wireless Router and the DynDNS Service is...
I havea WRT350N Wireless Router and the DynDNS Service is not
resolving the correct Internet IP Address, is resolving to a local IP and
I see it on the DDNS Page on my Router Setup Screen. I'm
trying to connect to my DVR from a Remote Site with my DynDNS
Client in my computer but I could not do it. Port 80 (my DVR WAN
Port) is Open and redirected to my DVR local IP, my DynDNS Account
is working fine but theres no way that I could access my DVR or even
my Router if I activate the Remote Management Capabilities.The best source to ask is HughesNet. According to their web site the HNS7000S is a router. Instructions how to set up a home network can be found here.
I cannot find instructions how to set up DDNS on the HN70000S router. The suggested setup in the KB article link above won't help you with that either. I don't know whether it is possible with HughesNet to put the router into bridge mode and set up the WRT for internet. It may not be possible at all. But you have to check with HughesNet. -
I have a net gear wireless router and a APE working great inside the house, but the wireless signal is weak in the backyard, can I get a net gear extender for the back yard and it will boost our wo
Ireless signal and also send my music to the airport express? Or does the airport express work as a stand alone hub?Trust me when I say this coming from 20 years of experience.
Get a powered external drive, format it 1 Partition Option: GUID and OS X Extended Journed as the format in Disk Utility.
Download and install Carbon Copy Cloner, clone internal drive to external drive.
Set a schedule to remind you to do it at least once a week, keep it near your charger.
When you plug your charger in, do plug the clone and power the machine up, set the display to sleep only,
CCC will do the rest.
If you want to boot from it, hold the option/alt and select it Startup Manager.
I've seen many TimeMachine and TimeCapsule nightmares and so far haven't seen a problem from anyone using a bootable clone.
It's simple, it's easy, it's more reliable and more powerful than what Apple does and it only takes plugging in a extra cable.
Make as many clones as you want, keep them time seperated, off site etc. etc.
Cables don't have network issues, clones can be verified in seconds merely by booting from them.
Clones protect your productivity, your up in seconds on a clone despite even the hard drive dying.
Software problem? No sweat, boot of the clone and reverse clone your problems away.
If you want to fuss and muss with half implemented TimeMachine and TimeCapsule network headaches then prepare to suffer.
I don't like to suffer, I bought a Mac not to suffer, but it appears you do with TimeMachine and TimeCapsule.
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