Wireless Woes

Many months back I got a Netgear WGR614 V6 wireless router. For a while it did the job but I noticed as soon as I left the room with the router in, the signal would degrade. By the time I got to the garden area (2 rooms away) and signal was dead. After much problems with it I decided to buy a new Linksys WRT160N £50 I installed it perfectly, pretty easy and connected my computer, xbox 360 and connected my iphone and laptop via wireless. Before I connected my upstairs computer via cable, I had the router downstairs connected to the laptop via cable so I could install it quicker. Once done, I popped outside the house and down the end of the garden and tested the iphone. Full strength!
I then connected my upstairs computer and connected the laptop to wireless. About 20 minutes later I went to the french windows, which is about 2 rooms away from the router and was horrified to discover my iphone had no signal. Thats a good 6 meters less than I previously tested at the end of the garden. To eliminate my iphone I brought out the laptop to the room as well, signal strength was poor at best and no connection at worst. Now Im really stunned. The exact same signal problems are happening with this brand new router. Im dumbstruck as to what it could be causing this problem. But so far, apart from the new look, I may as well have set fire to £50. I did some testing.
Unplugging all cables and just plugging in the routers (both of them) in various places around the home. The problems seemed to be the same. Poor signal. But oddly, it seemed that things got worse as soon as I plugged in my upstairs computer via Ethernet cable. I now have 2 routers and none can give me a strong signal, even though I only bought this Linksys router because the box stated it had superior signal strength. So theres either something in this house blocking the signals or I have bought 2 faulty routers. Which I don't believe.
Ive tried resetting the Linksys to factory settings and scanned again. I do get a signal at the end of the garden but its intermittent and when I connect my upstairs pc, thwe signal strength seems to die. Please I hope someone can shed some light, Im pulling what little hair I got left out!
Finally, when I got the router, the firmware was 1.54 or something, dated Dec 2007. On the linksys site I found version 1.02 but that date was 1/8/08 so I assumed it was better and updated. Now the router states the firmware version 1.02 was made Nov 2007! so I've actually downgraded?
Message Edited by Triaxial on 08-01-2008 04:07 AM

It seems that some homes have wireless "dead zones" in them.  In some cases, this can occur in a room that is closer to the router than other rooms where wireless works.  Most likely this has something to do either with the construction of your home, or else it is from wireless interference, from something near the room, or perhaps from your neighbor's wireless signals.
In some cases, people have simply decided to run a wire through the house, either for a direct ethernet port connection, or to add a second transmitter  (a WAP, ie wireless access point).
Also note that wireless n will only give you more range if you have a wireless n adapter in your computer.  If you computer (or iPhone) is using wireless g, your router must use wireless g to communicate with it, so you get wireless g range.
Before you run an ethernet cable through your home, or add a second transmitter, try the following tips to "tune up" your wireless network.  In some cases, the tips below will be enough to get things working.
There are many causes for poor wireless connections, and many solutions:
First of all, give your network a unique SSID. Do not use "linksys". If you are using "linksys" you may be trying to connect to your neighbor's router. Also set "SSID Broadcast" to "enabled". This will help your computer find and lock on to your router's signal.
If you are getting poor range when using a wireless n adapter in your computer, then, in the router, make sure the "Radio Band" is set to "Wide".  
If all your devices are wireless g, set the router to "Wireless g only".
Poor wireless connections are often caused by radio interference from other 2.4 GHz devices. This includes wireless phones, wireless baby monitors, microwave ovens, wireless mice and keyboards, wireless speakers, and your neighbor's wireless network. In rare cases, Bluetooth devices can interfere. Even some 5+ GHz phones also use the 2.4 Ghz band. Unplug these devices, and see if that corrects your problem.
In your router, try a different channel. There are 11 channels in the 2.4 GHz band.  (13 channels in most of Europe).   Usually channel 1, 6, or 11 works best.  (or 13 in Europe).   Check out your neighbors, and see what channel they are using. Because the channels overlap one another, try to stay at least +5 or -5 channels from your strongest neighbors. For example, if you have a strong neighbor on channel 9, try any channel 1 through 4.    If you are using a wireless n adapter in your computer, and you need more range, make sure your standard and wide bands are at least 2 channels apart. For example try standard band on channel 11, and wide band channel 9.
Also, try to locate the router about 4 to 6 feet above the floor, in an open area. Do not locate it behind your monitor or near other computer equipment or speakers. The antenna (if visible) should be vertical.
Also, in the computer, go to your wireless software, and go to "Preferred Networks" (sometimes called "Profiles" ). There are probably a few networks listed. Delete any network named "linksys". Also delete any network that you do not recognize, or that you no longer use. If your current network is not listed, enter its info (SSID, encryption (if any), and key (if any) ). Then select your current network and make it your default network, and set it to automatic login. You may need to go to "settings" to do this, or you may need to right click on your network and select "Properties" or "settings".
If the above does not fix your problem, download and install the latest driver(s) for your wireless card(s), including the latest iPhone wireless driver, if available.
Some users have reported improved wireless performance by switching to WPA encryption.
If you continue to have problems, try the following:
For wireless n routers, try setting the "n Transmission Rate" to 162 Mbps, and the (wireless g) "Transmission Rate" to 54 Mbps.
If you still have trouble, download and install the latest firmware for your router. After a firmware upgrade, you must reset the router to factory defaults, then setup the router again from scratch. If you saved a router configuration file, DO NOT use it.
Hope this helps.

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