With marker update.

hi gurus,
Can anybody give me a simple answer for this question?
I loaded the Historical Movements data with posting date Selection ,Now i want to compress the Data.(2LIS_03_BF)
Should i tick the "NO MARKER UPDATE" OR NOT ?.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.

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No Marker Update - 2LIS_03_BF

Hi
I have been having some issues with the Inventory management cube( using 2LIS_03_BF). The data in bw does not reconcile with SAP.
What I have realised is the following:
I have a process chain that loads the data every 3 hours and there is a step to compress the load with the field No Update Marker unchecked.
However the cube has the No Update Marker checked.
So which one would it use?
Could this be the cause of the issue?
Do I compress the delta loads ?
Thanks Again for your help.
Fahed

Dear Fahed,
It is suggested to compress the delta loads here as the incentory cube (0IC_C03) first calcultes forward (to marker then) comes back to the month where report is filtered.
You should check data period wise for locating point of incorrect keyfigure values.
Here are few points:
a) The request in which the opening stock was loaded must always be
compressed with a marker update
b) The request in which the historical material documents were contained
must always be compressed without a marker update and
c) Successive delta uploads must always be compressed with marker
updates.
For better understanding have a look at this document:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f83be790-0201-0010-4fb0-98bd7c01e328
Also see the OSS note 655798 for compression of stock's cube.

Inventory Management (Advanced - Marker update)

I have been following your discussion regarding Inventory Management and the use of 2LIS_03_BX and 2LIS_03_BF extractors, and I have also been studying the How to guide on Inventory Management.
I am currently only using 2LIS_03_BF with no data restriction in the setup-run or in the initialization. The stock balance is correctly even though I am not using 2LIS_03_BX (because the sum of all historical movements equals the current balance).
But I am facing performance problems because I am not using compression. I am considering 2 solutions:
Solution A (the easy)
1. Compression on all request (with marker update)
Solution B (as suggested in the How-to-guide)
1. Delete InfoCube data
2. Generate new balance with 2LIS_03_BX
3. Compression of 2LIS_03_BX (with marker update)
4. Reconstruct old 2LIS_03_BF requests from PSA
5. Compression of old 2LIS_03_BF requests (No maker update - because all these will new be considered historical in relation with the newly generated stock balance).
6. Future deltaloads from 2LIS_03_BF and compression (with marker update).
As I see both solutions will solve the problem but A is by far the easiest. I would like your opinion!
When you do the marker update during compression does it matter wether you do it as described in the how-to-guide I can you do it as follows instead:
1. Compression of Historical Movements (2LIS_03_BF) (with marker update)
2. Compression of Stock balance (2LIS_03_BX) (No marker update)
3. Compression of Future Movements (2LIS_03_BF) (with marker update)
As I see the only important thing is that you do the marker update with eitherHistorical Movements (2LIS_03_BF) or Stock balance (2LIS_03_BX), but not both of them or none of them. I am not 100% sure but please give me your opinion.

Hello Thomas,
I have never tried doing the marker update other way around (through BF instead of BX), but I don't see any reason why it will not work. You are right that marker update should be done either with snapshot or material movement as both datasources bring same data at different granularity level. Solution A seems to be simpler and straightforward, but I am not sure if there will be any impact on performance if we update the marker intially with lot of requests from BF instead of a single BX request.
Regards,
Praveen

Use of Marker & No marker Update

Hi All,
I am going through the Inventory Management I want to know the use of Marker update and No marker update.
and also please let me know the below details.
1. First time when we will load the data we will compress the request with marker update and while loading BF&UM we will comopress with No marker Update.Could please brief me explain why we need to do and how it will
effects the data with marker and no marker.
Thanks & Regards
Ajay
"Points will be assigned"

Hi Ajay,
As you asked, Data Mismatch willn't be happened if you compress the cube with "No marker update".
to avoid mismath only we compress "no marker update"
Why mismacth?
Suppose you are taking the opening balance on 01 jan 2008 by using BX datasource.
You have business running for 1 year in R3(2007). There would be some movements happened in all storage locations.
Ex : Storage 1
Material M1 --> Received - 100 ; Issued 60; again Received 30
NOw the current stock available in storage 1 = 100-60+30 =70
When you load BX data source it takes value 70 for storage location 1. Then you compress the cube with "Marker update". SO marker sets a reference point to this 70.
Later when you load BF datasource for the past movements, you get these 3 transactions , i.e 100, 60 and 30. If you compress the cube with these movements againg one more 70 will go and add to the reference point. Because initial 70 has come by calculating these historical movements only.
But that is the wrong value. So to avoid this, we compress the cube with "No marker update".
Since these no marker compressed values are not added to reference point, So your Non Cumulative KF will take the result from that reference point.
Later you can delta movements, i.e from Jan 1 2008 to Feb 1 2008, those will be compressed with "Marker update", because these are new and should be added to reference point.
This is my longest thread ever written Ajay.
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Sreekanth.

Marker update

Hello,
I have inventory cube and i am compressing the cube with Marker updates.
I want to know, which request is compressed with marker update and which is not compressed with marker update. is it possible?
Thanks.

Hi Kedar,
Thanks for the reply.
we can find in the logs if a request is compressed with marker update or not .
here is the example
Request with marker update
@5B\QInformation@     START cond CUBE ZSCI0005 at 114826 on 20080725 maxreqid     74438 maxcnsid         0 refpoint update + NO NULL ELIM     @5F\QNo long text exists@
Request with out marker update
@5B\QInformation@     START cond CUBE ZSCI0005 at 114826 on 20080725 maxreqid     74439 maxcnsid         0 No refpoint update + NO NULL ELIM     @5F\QNo long text exists@
But this is possible only if you do a compression manually. But if you do a compress in process chain with process type compress it is not delivering this log.
@5B\QInformation@     FB RSM1_CHECK_DM_GOT_REQUEST called from PRG RSSM_PROCESS_COMPRESS; row 000200
@5B\QInformation@     Request '                                            75068'; DTA 'ZSCI0005'; action 'C'; with dialog 'X'
@5B\QInformation@     Leave RSM1_CHECK_DM_GOT_REQUEST in row 70; Req_State ''
Unfortunately i am using compress in the process chain and i need to test this.
Thanks.
Naga.

Marker update problem

hi experts,
i am working the IC_C03,
first i load BX, suppose a record like:
plan material   0calday              received
P1     M1          2009.05.04           100(Received)
then i load BF , there are 3 records :
plan material   0calday              received      issue
P1     M1          2009.02.14           90(Received)
P1     M1          2009.03.18                            50(Issue)
P1     M1          2009.04.21           60(Received)
i set BX with marker update and BF with no marker update,
but after that, there are still 4 records in my cube, so my report get wrong result:
plan material   0calday              received      issue
P1     M1          2009.05.04          100(Received)
P1     M1          2009.02.14           90(Received)
P1     M1          2009.03.18                            50(Issue)
P1     M1          2009.04.21           60(Received)
what the correct result should be after BX(no update) and BF (update)?
i think because the 0calday is different with regard the 4 record, so the 4 record wouldn't be compressed
into one record.
Edited by: liu shaochang on May 4, 2009 4:47 PM

Are you sure your record of 100 has the 0calday as 2009.05.04?
If this record ha 0calday as something like 31.12.9999. Your reult is actually correct.
This is a non-cumulative key-figure. The calculation of stock of a specific day is not a simple summary.
It uses the marker value (100) + all uncompressed records ( in your case, 0) - Compressed records between the date and the current date.
If you try to report stock beyond May 5th. The report should report 100.
If you try to report stock of April 20th, The report should report 100 - 60 = 40.
You might not have done in the right sequence. Immediately after you finish BX, you should do a compress. That would make the entry like the following.
P1 M1 9999.05.04 100 (which i a marker value).

Marker update in UM

Hi all,
Pl tell me what is marker update and when to go for marker update and how to go for this?
Thanks & Regards,
Vijaya

Hi,
No Marker update is checked or used during compression of data in the cube, not to effect the existing data.
Example in Inventory:
you initilaize the stock(current stock) by calculating the historical moments of the Stock, So you did this when you are recently implementing the Bw for Inventory data.you get some values for the status of the current stock during intialization. This data is loaded to the cube and compressed with marker update(Normal scneraio).Then you load the historical (past) data which is in R3, because sometimes business managers need the status of the stock in the past also.If you load the historical data to cube the data in the cube would be mismatched because you have already loaded the cube with init stock data which is calculated based on the historical movements.
So you compress the cube with the option No marker update so it would n't effect the earlier dataThen later you can schedule the delta loads and compress with marker update, because there would n't be any effect by these delta movements.
Pls chk this links:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/documents/a1-8-4 How to Handle Inventory Management Scenarios.pdf(Inventory)
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/93ed1695-0501-0010-b7a9-d4cc4ef26d31(Inventory)
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f83be790-0201-0010-4fb0-98bd7c01e328(Non-cumulative values/Stock handling)
.https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/93ed1695-0501-0010-b7a9-d4cc4ef26d31
.https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f83be790-0201-0010-4fb0-98bd7c01e328
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CSM Reddy

Compressions with No marker updates

Hi experts,
What is the purpose of compressing the request of 2lis_03_bx
with No marker update not set and compressing the request of
2lis_03_bf with No marker update set ?
Full points will be assigned.
V N.

Hi,
BX is a one time load used for initializing the stocks and BF and UM are run regularly as deltas. The marker updates are very important so as to give the correct stock values.
For more information check the thread below :
Delta for 2LIS_03_BX
Also please search the forums as these topics have been discussed in great detail.
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What is 'No marker update'? do opening balance have any relation with it?

what is 'No marker update'? do opening balance have any relation with it? i know that 'No marker update' will not update reference point that means it will not change the opening balance date to current data, is it right? please explain.
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Hi
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/documents/a1-8-4/how%20to%20handle%20inventory%20management%20scenarios.pdf
When you load historic non cummulatives you need to set the "No Marker Updating" indicator if initalization has already taken place otherwise your data will not match with the stock on R/3 side.
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[http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/e0b8dfe6-fe1c-2a10-e8bd-c7acc921f366&overridelayout=true]
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Hi,
Marker Update Updates the stock values and NO Marker does not.
Generally BX upload has to be compressed with MU and BF(and UM) delta init has to be compressed with NO MU because Stock was updated with BX. And delta loads of BF and UM has to be compressed with MU because these brings new Material movements which will has to give effect to stock.
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Marker update or not.

hi xperts,
I am working on Inventory management Can any body give me idea which of the Following are correct
1.2lis_03_bx -- should be "No marker Update" is not set- is it right?
2.2lis_03_bf - should be "No marker Update" should be ticked- is it right?
3.2LIS_03_UM - should be "No marker Update"should be ticked- is it right?
I have to do this in the Compression screen of the manage infocube right?
Please confirm me,as i am not sure.

Hi,
1) correct
2) BF Delta init and BX is not used: then should be "No marker Update" should not be ticked.
BF Delta init and BX is used: then should be "No marker Update" should be ticked.
3) UM Delta init and BX is not used: then should be "No marker Update" should not be ticked.
UM Delta init and BX is used: then should be "No marker Update" should be ticked.
And also see :
Re: 2lis_03_bx not defined in source sys
With rgds,
Anil Kumar Sharma .P

No marker update for delta

Hi,
We compressed our inventory cube as listed below. I realized that deltas can be compressed with "No Marker Update" unselected, in order to update marker. This will improve the query performance. But I compressed deltas with "No Marker Update" Selected for about 3 weeks. Is it possible to compress further deltas with "No Marker Update" unselected.
2LIS_03_BX ---> "No Marker Update" Unselected
2LIS_03_BF Initial ---> "No Marker Update" Selected
2LIS_03_BF Delta ---> "No Marker Update" Selected
Thanks in advance,
Natalia

This is what I did in a similar situation
- Cleared delta queue by running the load twice
- Compressed existing requests without marker
- Identified the marker key (Package dimension table - key for RECORDTP = 1) , this will be one DIMID value
- Deleted all entries for this DIMID from E and F tables and then the P dimension table (effectively removing the marker from the cube). This was done using ABAP
- Ran setup again (with no txn being posted in the system), brought 2LIS_03_BX again, compressed with marker.
Try only if you are comfortable with it. If you prod cube has lots of data, this may be worth a try before you decide to reload.

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