With Pulseaudio, no sound with other apps when jack is running

I need to be able to run other sound apps with Jack running (and, ideally, be able to route sound from those apps into Ardour via Jack). So I installed PulseAudio, along with pulseaudio-alsa, and blacklisted the snd_pcm_oss module as per the Arch wiki. At that point I logged out and back in and I still had sound in all my apps. I then set up pulseaudio over jack as per the Arch wiki instructions here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pu … rough_JACK
including the scripts for qjackctl. I now have sound only in my apps that use Jack; Ardour, for instance. Can anyone help? I'm using KDE 4.6 with the Phonon-VLC backend for sound.

Do some debugging first, please. The wiki instructions are really quite hackish (but there's no real good way to automate this as of now).
Kill pulseaudio, start jack (till here you're working fine I see), restart pulseaudio, try and load the jack modules and check qjackctl or pavucontrol to see if they're connected. If not, find the error logs and google them. Then come back here and ask more.

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