With two iPhones 4, turning on Facetime on both iPhones, turning on Data Roaming, Enable 3G, cellular data.  Wifi has been enabled on, Wi-Fi is on, 'ask to join networks' is on.  I cannot get the two iPhones 4 to do 'FaceTime' with each other.  Changes?

May 16, 2011:  The two iPhone 4 phones, being next to each other, cannot do FaceTime.  with Data Roaming = On, Wi-Fi = On, 'Ask to join Networks' = On, Enable 3G = On, Cellular Data = On,
Why is Facetime on one iPhone 4 not connecting to ther other iPhone 4 when both have the 'FaceTime' icon showing on both? 

I will through that note and have applied the items in that note on both iPhones.  Both iPhones are in the same physical location.  Both appear to be connected to a wi-fi network.  Still no FaceTime connection.  Is it such that both iPhones must be connected to a Wi-Fi and that wifi must be a network without a password needed to join it?  I thought 'Data Roaming = On' was such that iPhone 4 would then find a wifi network without a password needed and one could use FaceTime. 
Is that the incorrect assumption?   If yes or no, what specific items are needed to be checked before I do this again or be checked while attempting FaceTime.

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