WLAN Controller C5508 and C5700

Is it possible LAP1142N AIR-E-K9 and AIR-E LAP1252AG K9 with the new C5508 and C5700 series controller to operate
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Yes.

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WLan controller 2112 and LAP1042n Access Point issue

Hello,
I recently purchased a 2112 Wlan controller an a number of LAP1042n Ap's. The AP's will not associate to the controller and the message I receive in the console of the AP is that the firmware AIR-WLC2100-K9-6-0-199-4.aes does not support this model? Can someone please verify this is the case?
Will firmware AIR-WLC2100-K9-7-0-98-0.aes overcome this issue?
Thanks in advance
David

YEs, 7.0 does suppoert it...
CHECK THE RELEASE NOTES... for further details...
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn7.0.html

WLAN Controller module and LAP connection

Hi,
I'm new to setting up WLC and LAP. My question is, do the WLC and LAP require a wired connection between them? Can't they be set up with wireless connection?
Thanks!

Hi,
The Wireless runs on top of Wired network.. so to get the wireless network up and running, the wired network should be up.
Now regardyour question..
WLC will be connected to the switch or the router.... the LAP will get connected to the switch or the router..
So the WLC and the LAP are connected indirectly to wired... however the wirless comes into picture when we have a client to connect.. instead of holding a LAN cable plugged into the laptop we can move around using wireless.
I request you to let me know if the above answered your question.
Regards
Surendra

Communication between : AP and WLAN controller

Hi,
The communication between AP and WLAN Controller is ( Data and Control ) UDP.
Source port 1024 and destination port 12222 and 12223. Actually which device listen to which port or both should listen as control and data can be generated from both the devices.
How does the user ( wireless client) traffic is switched - if user traffic is a TCP traffic. It will be sent to WLANC and then WLANC forwards it to respective VLAN or default gateway ( depending upon the destination in the packet ).
Please explain / share the experience.
any link on cisco.com
Thanka in advance
Subodh

"the LWAPP Control and Data messages are encapsulated in UDP packets that are carried over the IP network. The only requirement is established IP connectivity between the access points and the WLC. The LWAPP tunnel uses the access point's IP address and the WLC's AP Manager interface IP address as endpoints. The AP Manager interface is explained in further detail in the
implementation section. On the access point side, both LWAPP Control and Data messages use an ephemeral port that is derived from a hash of the access point MAC address as the UDP port. On the WLC side, LWAPP Data messages always use UDP port 12222. On the WLC side, LWAPP Control messages always use UDP port 12223.
The mechanics and sequencing of Layer 3 LWAPP are similar to Layer 2 LWAPP except that the packets are carried in UDP packets instead of being encapsulated in Ethernet frames."
Taken from "Cisco 440X Series Wireless LAN Controllers Deployment Guide"

WLAN Controller and Location appliance graceful shutdown?

Does anyone know if there is a supported graceful shutdown method/command for the
4400 series WLAN Controller and 2700 Location Appliances?
This weekend our server room will be undergoing maintenance and will experience a total power outage for a 4 hour period. It is our intent to manually bring all equipment down (hopefully in a graceful manner) and then back up once the maintenance is completed. As a result does anyone know if special precaution is needed to shutdown these 2 appliances, or can we simply bring down these devices hard which is the case with most other Cisco equipment?
Thanks in advance

Hi Mark,
Channel 1, 6, and 11 are just about as non-overlapping as 1, 7, and 13. There's an insignificant amount of overlap, so it's just as plausible of a solution, even in Europe. I honestly don't know why you wouldn't use the extra channels to eliminate the minor overlap - every bit helps.
The "channel blanket" or "virtual cell" WLAN design philosophy is rapidly spreading. Cisco maintains that it's a standards violation and I've heard no talk of them purchasing the not-to-be-named company or of them adopting the same design philosophy. I sincerely hope that they do one of the two soon, however, because it's very good design that's difficult for Cisco to compete against.

WLAN Controller at HQ and AP's at Branch offices

I have a WLAN controller at HQ and want to put APs at my branch offices, but connected and managed by my controller at HQ. I know that if the WAN goes down, I will lose wireless, etc.
my question is:
Is there anything I should watch out for with this type of setup? I will have separate vlans' for the wireless and data.. will this matter when it hits the MPLS from the branch back to the HQ WLAN controller? I thought maybe the vlan tagging had to stay consistant between AP and WLAN controller?

Hybrid Remote Edge Access Point (HREAP) is a mode supportede by 1130 and 1240 series AP's. In the upcoming release of version 4.2, HREAP will also have full support for voice roaming as well. With HREAP, wireless users already authenticated will remain connected in the event of a WAN outage. In addition, v4.2 will support local site authentication for HREAP deployments. If you have an ACS server at the remote site, you can even authenticate new users during a WAN outage. I wouldn't recommend anything in the 1000 series AP family. It's already been announced that it's going end of sale. Keep in mind the latency between AP and controller must be less than 100ms.

Wlan controller and branch office AP (vlan config)

Hi,
Our wlan controller is located in HQ office and we have APs in branch office. Is it possible to implement two different SSIDs and they should be in two different vlans? So should we configure the AP trunk?
REAP does not support IEEE 802.1Q VLAN tagging. As such, it does not support multiple VLANs. Traffic from all the service set identifiers (SSID) terminates on the same subnet, but H-REAP supports IEEE 802.1Q VLAN tagging. Traffic from each SSID can be segmented to a unique VLAN.
Thanks

Hello,
As per your query i can suggest you the following solution-
Yes, it possible to implement two different SSIDs and they can be in two different vlans.
For more information please refer to the link-
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_configuration_example09186a00807cc3b8.shtml
Hope this will help you.

WAP4410N Access point and 4404 WLAN Controller.

Hello to all,
I am planning to setup a new WLAN using WAP4410N Wireless N Access Point. Is it possible to manage the AP using 4404 WLAN controller ?
I need to buy arround 42 AP for covering the entire building.
Regards,
Aslam

leolaohoo
Could u please tell me which series can be used with 4404 WLANC ?
Also the AP Should support Bridging or Mesh.

AIR-LAP1310G-E-K9 acces point not joining to 5508 wlan controller

Hi,
I have Cisco AIR-LAP1310G-E-K9 access point and 5508 wlan controller with version 7.0.220 and it is joining to the WLAN controller. I have enabled dhcp in the lan controller and i dont have external dns server. How to fix this issue? Can this LAN controller version will support this access point?
My Lan Controller Management IP Address is 10.10.10.5
Please find the below configuration of 1300 access point.
AP001d.4513.dd68#reload
Proceed with reload? [confirm]
%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested by console. Reload Reason: Reload Command.
%LWAPP-5-CHANGED: LWAPP changed state to DOWNXmodem file system is available.
flashfs[0]: 4 files, 2 directories
flashfs[0]: 0 orphaned files, 0 orphaned directories
flashfs[0]: Total bytes: 7741440
flashfs[0]: Bytes used: 2052608
flashfs[0]: Bytes available: 5688832
flashfs[0]: flashfs fsck took 14 seconds.
Base ethernet MAC Address: 00:1d:45:13:dd:68
Initializing ethernet port 0...
Reset ethernet port 0...
Reset done!
ethernet link up, 100 mbps, full-duplex
Ethernet port 0 initialized: link is up
Unable to get our ip address: no "IP_ADDR" variable set
The system has been encountered and error initializing
tftp file system. The system is ignoring the error and
continuing boot. If you interrupt the system boot process,
the following commands will set IP_ADDR, DEFAULT_ROUTER
and NETMASK environment variables, initializing tftp file
system, and finish loading the operating system software:
    set IP_ADDR
    set DEFAULT_ROUTER
    set NETMASK
    tftp_init
    boot
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executing...
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Initializing flashfs...
flashfs[1]: 4 files, 2 directories
flashfs[1]: 0 orphaned files, 0 orphaned directories
flashfs[1]: Total bytes: 7741440
flashfs[1]: Bytes used: 2052608
flashfs[1]: Bytes available: 5688832
flashfs[1]: flashfs fsck took 2 seconds.
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cisco AIR-LAP1310G-E-K9R   (PowerPCElvis) processor (revision A0) with 24566K/8192K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID FHK1133E002
PowerPCElvis CPU at 262Mhz, revision number 0x0950
Last reset from reload
LWAPP image version 3.0.51.0
1 FastEthernet interface
32K bytes of flash-simulated non-volatile configuration memory.
Base ethernet MAC Address: 00:1D:45:13:DD:68
Part Number                          : 73-8960-09
PCA Assembly Number                  : 800-24963-06
PCA Revision Number                  : A0
PCB Serial Number                    : FOC113000V7
Top Assembly Part Number             : 800-28479-05
Top Assembly Serial Number           : FHK1133E002
Top Revision Number                  : B0
Product/Model Number                 : AIR-LAP1310G-E-K9R
The name for the keys will be: ap.cisco.com
% The key modulus size is 1024 bits
% Generating 1024 bit RSA keys, keys will be non-exportable...[OK]
ip ssh version 2
    ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
transport input ssh
                 ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
aaa new-model
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
aaa authentication login default enable local none
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
o
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
Press RETURN to get started!
*Mar 1 00:00:05.442: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0, changed state to up
*Mar 1 00:00:06.473: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface FastEthernet0, changed state to up
*Mar 1 00:00:07.817: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
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Translating "CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER"...domain server (255.255.255.255)
transport input ssh
                 ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
*Mar 1 00:00:33.860: %LWAPP-3-CLIENTEVENTLOG: Performing DNS resolution for CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER
*Mar 1 00:00:33.860: %LWAPP-3-CLIENTERRORLOG: DNS Name Lookup: could not resolve CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER
*Mar 1 00:00:33.861: %LWAPP-5-CHANGED: LWAPP changed state to DISCOVERY
logging origin-id string AP:001d.4513.dd68
         ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
logging 255.255.255.255
        ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
logging trap 3
        ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
*Mar 1 00:00:37.440: Logging LWAPP message to 255.255.255.255.
AP001d.4513.dd68>
%LWAPP-3-CLIENTEVENTLOG: Forcing AP to obtain IP address using DHCP
%DHCP-6-ADDRESS_ASSIGN: Interface FastEthernet0 assigned DHCP address 10.10.10.46, mask 255.255.255.0, hostname AP001d.4513.dd68
Translating "CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.mydomain.com"...domain server (10.10.10.5)
%LWAPP-3-CLIENTEVENTLOG: Did not get vendor specific options from DHCP.
%LWAPP-3-CLIENTEVENTLOG: Did not get log server settings from DHCP.
%LWAPP-3-CLIENTEVENTLOG: Performing DNS resolution for CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.mydomain.com
%LWAPP-3-CLIENTERRORLOG: DNS Name Lookup: could not resolve CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.mydomain.com
AP001d.4513.dd68>

Your debug is very telling ..
AP001d.4513.dd68>
%LWAPP-3-CLIENTEVENTLOG: Forcing AP to obtain IP address using DHCP
%DHCP-6-ADDRESS_ASSIGN: Interface FastEthernet0 assigned DHCP address 10.10.10.46, mask 255.255.255.0, hostname AP001d.4513.dd68
Translating "CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.mydomain.com"...domain server (10.10.10.5)
%LWAPP-3-CLIENTEVENTLOG: Did not get vendor specific options from DHCP.
%LWAPP-3-CLIENTEVENTLOG: Did not get log server settings from DHCP.
%LWAPP-3-CLIENTEVENTLOG: Performing DNS resolution for CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.mydomain.com
%LWAPP-3-CLIENTERRORLOG: DNS Name Lookup: could not resolve CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.mydomain.com
AP001d.4513.dd68>
What are you using to tell the AP where the contoller lives ? Since you are consoled into the ap you can use the -> capwap ap controller ip address
This will point the ap to your controller
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How can I copy a PSK from one WLAN Controller to another

I'm trying to replace a WLAN controller with a new one. One WLAN is configured with WPA-PSK. Nobody seems to know the key that was used.
Anyone know if there is a way to extract the encrypted key out of a controller and put it into the new WLAN Controller?
Thanks in advance.

No can do ...
https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11364566/view-psks-wlans-wlc
However, if any users are on a MAC Book and has iCloud enabled you can see the key under the "keys". If you have a windows 7 box and uses the native supplicant you can expose the key on the supplicant ..

Cisco LWAP & WLAN Controller Flexconnect Across HP Switches

Hello All, I'm looking for a little guidance in making the needed routing and switching configuration changes on our Corporate Network to accomadate flex connect functionality for Cisco Lightweight Access Points (LWAPs). The LWAPs that are currently configured on our network only work when our WLAN Controller is up and running and I need for them to be disconnectable so that we can move the WLAN Controller to our virtual co-lo. It should be known that I inhereted this network from the previous admin and have been working hard to map everything out to the best of my ability. Also, the WLAN controller is already operating in our production network so it limits my ability to do much testing.
Just FYI, I'm a new Systems Admin promoted from a Desktop Support role and have my CCENT (Currently working on CCNA & MCITP Server Admin) so I have some knowledge but it is limited on the networking and switching side of things. Unfortunately, the Senior Systems Admin has even less knowledge of networking than me and I don't really have anyone to turn to which is why I'm posting here. I would have utilized GNS to help me simulate the configuration however there are HP switches in the mix and no means of emulating them.
-Relevant Device List-
(CONSA251) Sonicwall NSA 240 - 10.1.1.251
Interface Information
Interface    IP Address    Description
X0 -> LAN
10.1.1.251   LAN Interface
X1 -> WAN
*************   Time Warner WAN
X2 -> DMZ
*************   DMZ Interface
X3 -> WAN
*************   Sprint WAN
X0-V20 -> LAN
10.1.101.1   Corporate WLAN
X0-V30 -> LAN
192.168.1.1   Guest WLAN
(CORT250) Cisco 3845 - 10.1.1.250
(CO-WLAN-CTRLER) Cisco 5508 Wireless Controller - 10.1.1.2
(COSW240) HP Procurve 4108GL - 10.1.1.240
(COSW238) HP Procurve 2510B-24 - 10.1.20.238
(CORP-AP-MIS) AIR-LAP1131AG-A-K9 - 10.1.1.79
(COSW239) HP1810G-24 - No IP (Inaccesible but being replaced)
I will now go on to explain our network topology as it pertains to the WAPs and WLAN Controller and how I believe it needs to be configured in order to operate from my perspective.
Our Corporate and Guest Wireless Access is provided via the Sonicwall CONSA251 through a connection from the X0 interface to HP Switch COSW239 which is then connected to WLAN Controller CO-WLAN-CTRLER as detailed below:
Device - Interface Name/Port
CONSA251 - X0
COSW239 - 2
COSW239 - 18,19
CO-WLAN-CTRLER - 2,3
The WLAN Controller currently communicates with all the LWAPs via Layer 3 TCP\IP as I understand it and then routes all DHCP requests and traffic destine for the 10.1.101.1 (corporate WLAN) and 192.168.1.1 (Guest WLAN) to the Sonicwall and vice versa.
Now what I am trying to do is VLAN the LWAP CORP-AP-MIS across the HP Switches to the X0 interface on the Sonicwall NSA240 where it will be able to route traffic via VLAN 20 & 30. The problem lies in my inexperience with HP VLAN configurations and how the ports need to be configured on each device so it can route traffic to the Sonicwall when the WLAN Controller is shutdown.
The LWAP CORP-AP-MIS layer 2 trace to the WLAN Controller is as shown below:
Device - Interface Name/Port
CORP-AP-MIS - FA/0
COSW238     - 16
COSW238     - 25
COSW240     - B4
COSW240     - H6
CORT250     - GigabitEthernet0/0
CORT250     - Se1/0
CONSA251    - X0
Now for all intesive purposes the Corporate Router CORT250 should probably be handling the routing for our Corporate and Guest Wireless network however that was not the way it was originally setup and I have to work with what was inhereted. The Corporate Router CORT250 has a default route to the Sonicwall and the Sonicwall CONSA251 has all the routing already in place for the Corporate & Guest WLANs.
What I would like to do is VLAN off the X0-V20&V30 accross multiple switches and switchports to each LWAP in our building. I do have the LWAP I'm testing on configured with Flex Connect which I understand is required for it to be disconnectable.
Any guidance on how I would go about configuring this accross devices would be appreciated. I know there are some difference between HP and Cisco Switching terms and how tagging, untagging, and trunking works however I lack the experience to apply this in practice especially in a production environment.
I will be happy to provide any additional information or clarification that is needed. Thank you in advance for the help.

Just to add about the ISE... you can profile, but having only one ssid might or might not work in your situation. Also if you end up with remote sites or ap's in h-reap mode, currently ISE cant do any profiling. If you go with the 7500 or 5508/WiSM2, they don't really do an active-active or active backup. They are both up and you can split the load or put all ap's on one, its up to you. I usually split the load just to make sure both are working. I don't want to all of a sudden loose the primary and then find out my secondary/backup is not working.

I need to bridge a printer off a wireless bridge using a 4402 WLAN Controller

I need to bridge a printer off a wireless bridge using a 4402 WLAN Controller. Would I need to make any changes on the 4402 WLAN Controller?

One options is to take a cisco autonmous access point and configure it as a WGB. And no, you would not have to do anything special to the WLC in thay deisgn. The WGB would act as a wireless client.
Make sense?

Data flow using a WLAN controller

Can someone explain the flow of data from wireless client to some destination in the internal network (or the Internet) using a WLAN Controller? Use a 4402 as an example.
Specifically, I am wondering if client traffic actually passes thru the WLAN Controller (4402). I am reading the configuration guide and it doesn't seem to be explicitly stated one way or the other.

Hi Ken,
This is a very common question these days.
Here is a recent thread as well as an excerpt from a good doc:
http://forum.cisco.com/eforum/servlet/NetProf?page=netprof&forum=Wireless%20-%20Mobility&topic=Getting%20Started%20with%20Wireless&CommCmd=MB%3Fcmd%3Ddisplay_location%26location%3D.1ddaca5d
In the Cisco Centralized WLAN architecture, LWAPP-enabled access points operate in the lightweight mode (as opposed to the autonomous mode). The access points associate to a Cisco WLAN controller. The controller manages the configuration, firmware, and control transactions such as 802.1x authentication. In addition, all wireless traffic is tunneled through the controller.
LWAPP is an IETF draft protocol that defines the control messaging for setup and path authentication and run-time operations. LWAPP also defines the tunneling mechanism for data traffic.
In an LWAPP environment, a Cisco Aironet LWAPP-enabled access point discovers a controller by using LWAPP discovery mechanisms and then sends it an LWAPP join request. The controller sends the access point an LWAPP join response allowing the access point to join the controller. When the access point is joined, the controller downloads its software if the versions on the access point and controller do not match.
LWAPP secures the control communication between the access point and controller by means of a secure key distribution, utilizing X.509 certificates on both the access point and controller.
From this doc:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps430/products_quick_start09186a00805100f5.html#wp47092
Hope this helps!
Rob
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Virtual WLAN Controller Guest Anchor

We are planning a WLAN upgrade and the security policy is to forward wireless Guest user traffic to the DMZ controllers. We are now considering the Virtual WLAN Controller and all AP's will register with the virtual controllers and we will use Flexconnect for Staff and internal traffic that will switch their traffic onto the local switch.
We wish to forward the guest traffic to the DMZ Guest Anchor controller which will be a 5508 controller. This will also offer Office Extend AP service.
I have looked at teh virtual controller docs and not very clear if this deployment model is supported. Below is a diagram of what we wish to deploy and can anyone advise if thsi is a supprted deployment model.

Well you can use the vWLC to anchor to a 5508, but not the other way around. So if you use the DMZ 5508 for OfficeExtend, you will not be able to anchor the traffic back to the inside. Cisco doesn't support reverse anchoring for a Remote-LAN in OfficeExtend and requires you to actually have the OfficeExtend AP's connect to an inside WLC. In v7.0.x you were able to do this reverse anchor, but it was removed on later codes.
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1510 Mesh A.P with 5508 WLAN Controller

Hi everyone,
I got a situation. We had our wireless mesh network running with 4400 Controller and 1510 A.Ps. Now that we have bought new 5508 Controller (with SW: 7.2) and 3600 Indoor APs, we are unable to add legacy APs on our new controller. After a wild googling I have found that for 1510 APs i need to be on SW ver: 4.0. But that will lead into another situation i-e I wont be able to have my 3600 APs on WLAN Controller.
Any suggessions/wise words will be very very obliged....
Thanks,
Azhar...

You would have to keep those 440's up and have all the WLC in the same mobility group. That is the only way to keep those 1510's up and running. Cusco usually supports mobility between different version but only really as far back as 2 versions. Might work though.
Here is a compatibility guide that explains what devices work with what code.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/5500/tech_notes/Wireless_Software_Compatibility_Matrix.html
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