WLC 5508 and mobility groups

Hi,
We are using 2 WLC 5508 running 7.0.98.0 sw (AP's are 1142) at our primary site. They are hosting 3 different WLAN/SSID's, one for guest and the
other 2 are for corporate access. We have put the WLC's in a mobility group, say "AAAA".
Now we have the need for our UK peer site to publish a corp WLAN that exists in UK - at our site, and when trying to configure for that (following the c70cg.pdf) - I put the WLC's for UK in a new mobility group, say "BBBB". But i can't add our WLC's into that mobilty group
(i get a duplicate mac address message).
What's the correct way of configuring this, does all WLCs need to be in the same mobility group?
Is there some reason why we can't have 2 mobility groups? Is there any upside/downside to configuring 2 mob. groups?
Any clearification would be greatly appreciated
BR
//Mikael

I think you are misunderstanding , so far what you did on your local swedish site is correct. Your two swedish WLCs have to be in their own same mobility group so you can give seamless roaming to your wireless users across your swedish area without interruption.
On a WLC mobility group config page, you can have only one entry per WLC, this is why you are getting the duplicate error message.
WEBGUI - CONTROLLER - MOBILITY MANAGEMENT - MOBILITY GROUPS
If you want to put your 4 WLCs so they exchange mobility messages, the following has to happen on all 4 WLCs.
xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx 192.168.1.1 uk
yy:yy:yy:yy:yy:yy 192.168.1.2 uk
zz:zz:zz:zz:zz:zz 172.17.1.1 sweden
aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa 172.17.1.2 sweden
Note when you add WLC on the mobility section, the WLC start sending messages to each like, hey i have this client and you have that client and so on. But this has nothing to do with what you are trying to achieve.
With regards to the execs that are coming, yes, replicate the SSID and point it to the Radius Server they have in UK, add your swedish WLC(s) as a NAS on the Radius Server and it should work as if they were in UK. that should be enough and i advise you to do the following for mobility groups config.
on the two UK WLCs
xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx 192.168.1.1 uk
yy:yy:yy:yy:yy:yy 192.168.1.2 uk
on the two Swedish WLCs
zz:zz:zz:zz:zz:zz 172.17.1.1 sweden
aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa 172.17.1.2 sweden
hope i cleared it out for you. greeting from cold Belgium tonight :-) and hope the execs will enjoy Sweden!

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