WLC 5508 and remote site (DMVPN) Access Points

Hi All,
We just purchased a WLC 5508 and would like to know if it will control remote VPN site Access Points. Here are the details:
The 5508 will live at our home office. We have multiple remote sites that are connected via Cisco's DMVPN. Each site has one Cisco 1131 Access Point hanging off of either a Cisco 1841 or a 2811 that is using DMVPN back to the home office 2811. Can the 5508 manage the remote Access Points?
Thanks for your help guys!

Are you are talking about OfficeExtend?
Cisco OfficeExtend
https://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/collateral/ns340/ns517/ns430/solution_overview_c22-523307_ns348_Networking_Solution_Solution_Overview.html
OfficeExtend supports 1130 & 1140 as long as you have the Wireless PLUS (WPLUS) Software.
OfficeExtend Access Point
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/wcs/6.0/configuration/guide/6_0apcfg.html#wp1069890

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