WLC in a non-Cisco network

I'm planning to use a Cisco WLC 5508 in a non-Cisco core network (switch and routers) and I'm wondering about the problems I can have.
For the moment, I can only think that I can't have CDP (Cisco Discovery Protocol) in the new core network (access switchs are cisco).
So, do you need CDP to run a Cisco Controller Based WLAN?
Maybe for Rogue Switchport tracing? Anything else?
Can I use a WLC connected to a non-Cisco core network?
More trouble?
Thanks

Cisco wlc's do not use LACP, LAG is non-negotiated, just on. 5508 also require 1g ports, it will not connect to anything less than this.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/docs/wireless/controller/7.0MR1/configuration/guide/cg_ports_interfaces.html#wp1182892
As for LWAPP/CAPWAP, you will need to make sure that if yo uare going through a firewall that UDP ports 12222/12223 for LWAPP and UDP port 5246/5247 are not blocked. You can use option43 on your DHCP server for the APs to find the controller.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_configuration_example09186a00808714fe.shtml
OR
DNS discovery—The access point can discover controllers through your domain name server (DNS). For the access point to do so, you must configure your DNS to return controller IP addresses in response to CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.localdomain or CISCO-CAPWAP-CONTROLLER.localdomain, where localdomain
is the access point domain name. When an access point receives an IP address and DNS information from a DHCP server, it contacts the DNS to resolve CISCO-LWAPP-CONTROLLER.localdomain or CISCO-CAPWAP-CONTROLLER.localdomain

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http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/wireless/wlan_security.shtml
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless
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