Word Count and Footnotes

Hello,
I have looked at some of the posts on word count but I need to do a word count that automatically includes footnotes. MS Word supports this. Does Pages and, if so, how?
Many thanks.

Stephen1965 wrote:
Thanks for the prompt reply. I should clarify:
The automatic word count does indeed include footnotes, but if you use the inspector and a selection of text there is no option to include a word count of any footnotes attached to that selection.
I need to be able to select sections of the document and get a word count that includes the footnotes that belong to that section.
Feature unavailable but available.
Select the block of text in the main text layer.
Grab the word count.
Select the footnotes.
Grab the word count.
Make an addition and you will know the wanted word count.
_Go to "Provide Pages Feedback" in the "Pages" menu_, describe what you wish.
Then, cross your fingers, and wait _at least_ for iWork'10
Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) mardi 29 septembre 2009 17:24:31
Thanks again.

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