Work Area Bar to Clip ?

PPro CS3 advertises the same facility which worked in previous versions for ALT-clicking the work area bar to set the work area to contiguous clips from the CTI.
ALT-click doesn't do this on my system, though, even after resetting Preferences. Sets the work area to cover the whole sequence even when there are significant gaps.
I've tried all other likely modifiers without success. Have I missed a trick, is my system an exception, or is this a bug?
PPro CS3.1.1(374), XP SP2, Core 2 Duo 2.8, 2Gb RAM, NVidia 8800GTX, all drivers etc up to date.

I tried in both CS3 and 2.0 and neither version does anything when I Alt+click on the work area bar. Targeting different tracks and making clip selections made no difference. I would recommend you file a bug report.
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I would have an issue with auto or a default for a number of reasons.
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wie kann ich den work area bar in/out -point setzen, alt+[ / ] (alt+5/6) funktioniert nicht, arbeite mit einem IMac

berend1
Thank you for posting your question and good job finding the solution yourself.
Apparently you are a Premiere Elements 12 Mac user who wanted to set the gray tabs of the WorkArea Bar to span a specific area of your Timeline and the shortcut Alt + [ and Alt + ] were not working for you.
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I'm very glad you jumped back in. So, thank you.
I've done everything you have suggested, and I'm getting the same issue. However, there is one observation that could help you further narrow it down.
I'm going to respond to all your suggestions, point-by-point below in order to help you - help me- the best I can
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ATR
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