Work Around Help: Apple RAID Card & Boot Camp

-Hello and thanks for taking the time to read my post and possibly provide me with a solution.-
I have the newest Mac Pro (early 2009) and the apple RAID card.
I want to be able to run boot camp with winXP, but it appears from talking with tech support that the 3x SAS 15,000 rpm drives (RAID 5 config) with the RAID card does not support boot camping. I guess the RAID card is still unsupported through windows/boot camp?
I have a 1tb 7200 rpm drive spare.
Is there a work around to get boot camp to run natively (no virtual machines via Parelles or VMware Fusion please) on my computer? What options for running boot camp do I have?
Can anyone out their solve my issue?
Kind regards,
Will

Is there a work around to get boot camp to run natively?
Hi,
Unfortunately, Apple does NOT support Boot Camp when the Apple RAID card is installed.
What I would suggest is to remove the Apple RAID card and insert a SATA hard disk into the Mac Pro. At this point, you can install Mac OS on it (using the Apple DVD) and then Boot Camp.
I know this is not the solution you are looking for but its the best I have
This is why I did not purchase the Apple RAID card and I cannot recommend it to users that would like to install Boot Camp.
Have fun!

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    Model: MacPro3,1, BootROM MP31.006C.B05, 8 processors, Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 2.8 GHz, 18 GB, SMC 1.25f4
    Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5870, ATI Radeon HD 5870, PCIe, 1024 MB
    Memory Module: DIMM Riser B/DIMM 1, 2 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x0000, 0x000000463732353642363145353830304600
    Memory Module: DIMM Riser B/DIMM 2, 2 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x0000, 0x000000463732353642363145353830304600
    Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 1, 1 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x48594D5035313241373243503844332D5335
    Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 2, 1 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x48594D5035313241373243503844332D5335
    Memory Module: DIMM Riser B/DIMM 3, 4 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x0000, 0x000000463732353142363445363830304600
    Memory Module: DIMM Riser B/DIMM 4, 4 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x0000, 0x000000463732353142363445363830304600
    Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 3, 2 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x0000, 0x000000463732353642363145353830304600
    Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 4, 2 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x0000, 0x000000463732353642363145353830304600
    Bluetooth: Version 4.2.0f6 12982, 3 services, 22 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: Ethernet 1, Ethernet, en0
    PCI Card: ATI Radeon HD 5870, Display Controller, Slot-1
    PCI Card: ATI Radeon HD 5870, ATY,LangurParent, Slot-1
    PCI Card: Apple RAID Card, RAID Controller, Slot-4
    Parallel ATA Device: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112D
    USB Device: Hub
    USB Device: Keyboard Hub
    USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse
    USB Device: Apple Keyboard
    USB Device: XD-0405-U
    USB Device: Apple Cinema HD Display
    USB Device: USB2.0 Printer (Hi-speed)
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    1) Apple brand cards,
    2) "sold in the Apple store" cards, and
    3) "Mac Edition" cards ...
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    • NVIDIA Quadro 5000, about US$2500
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    • running 10.8.3 or later AND
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    It happened i have a need to run Windows natively on Mac Pro with Apple RAID card installed.
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    So, i've connected SATA drive this way and it works fine with OS X.
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    Empty black text console is all that i've got after selecting of Windows installation CD in EFI boot menu.
    I need a suggestion how to bypass my problem, or generally speaking, how to install Windows onto Mac Pro with Apple RAID card.

    I've tried that.
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    But i've got black screen again trying to boot WinXP after RAID card re-installed.

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    Every time I turn on the computer, I get a message that says," The Apple RAID Card installed in your system requires your attention."
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    Why do I keep getting this message? I am not sure what needs to be done to rectify any error. If there is no error and the warning is just due to battery charging, then I would like the warning to stop appearing--or do I just have to continuously click "Ignore"? Any insight into this?
    When I open RAID Utility it says: RAID set R0-1 has been mounted with indeterminate data loss. ( Is this just due to improper shutdown?)
    Also: Controller reports RAID system 72-hour battery reserve unavailable-System is configured to run without battery.
    Message was edited by: Darlyne

    I have had the exact same error message. When you open Raid Utility (that is where you can read what "attention" is needed you will see under the "Status" section what happened, and under the "Tasks" you will see the raid card "initializing" your RAID set. The first time I saw this I freaked, thinking that my drives were being reformatted, and my data would be lost. This is not the case. If you look down on the left side, you will (hopefully) see green lights next to your drives. The initialization seems to be a verification of the raid structure -- basically checking to make sure everything is redundant.
    So, back to the original question: it seems from my poking around that you SHOULD NEVER TURN OFF your Mac Pro with an Apple Raid Card installed. The firmware is not able to spin down the drives correctly, so when you turn your machine back on, you get the error message we have been discussing.
    I would recommend you get a good battery backup (UPS, like an APC) and just power off your monitor when not using your machine. I did not see this in the documentation, I am not 100% sure, but this is what I will be doing. In my case it takes many hours for the Raid Util to initialize my Raid again.
    Hope this helps.
    Theo

  • CAN the Mac Pro deep-sleep with the Apple Raid Card?

    So, reading through previous posts, there seems to be a problem (or 'feature' to charge the battery?) that prevents the Mac Pro from sleeping when the Apple Raid Card is installed.
    Can users owning this setup corraborate? Is this indeed the intended way to work?
    Thx,
    Dan

    as far as I know, deep sleep is only available for portable machines. if you meant regular sleep I cant help you because I haven't got a RAID card.
    edit: I may have confused deep sleep with safe sleep… sorry.

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    The update is recommend for all Mac Pro (Early 2009) and Xserve (Early 2009) systems with the Apple RAID card.
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    Improves handling of hard drives with bad blocks
    Improves RAID 1 read performance
    Improves hard drive compatibility with non-Apple drives
    Improves support for systems with 48GB or larger memory
    Improves battery handling and reporting
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    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3831
    After this update has successfully completed,
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    I have a few of these RAID cards in a couple servers, and then I have an earlier version of the RAID card in a few different servers.
    The earlier servers are running non-apple 1.5 TB drives. It will be interesting to learn if this firmware update will indeed allow me to boost the capacity by installing non-apple drives, as the firmware previously has not.
    Ohh I'm excited to update and try! This will greatly help out if it does!

  • Apple raid card with Sonnet Tempo SSD problem?

    I am currently using Mac Pro 5.1 (2010)
    My configuration is
    1) Apple Raid Card in PCIe slot 4 
    2TB bootable HDD  and 3x 1TB HDDs configured to RAID 0
    2) Apple Radeon 5770 card in PCIe slot 1
    3) Sonnet Tempo SSD with Apple OEM 512GB SSD in PCIe slot 2
    4) Caldigit Fasta-6GU3pro USB3 + eSATA card in PCIe slot 3
    When I boot from 2TB bootable HDD in main slot #1, everything works well.
    But, when I install Mavericks to 512GB SSD in PCIe slot, installation finishes without problem, but the system NEVER boot up with that drive.
    (The drive appears in boot disc selection in system preference, but nothing changed even select it and reboot.)
    (I did a lot of PRAM reset too...)
    The SSD works well when I put it to 2nd ODD slot with spare SATA2 connectors in there. (boot properly, etc).
    But when I put it back to TEMPO card, It never appears during boot process (even I press option key).
    Maybe problem is due to
    1) Issue with APPLE raid card
    2) problem due to two additional SATA controllers in PCIe rains.
    3) Issue with card configuration (I have to test change the position of cards except APPLE RAID which requires slot 4)
    Does anybody experienced similar problems?

    This:
    > But, when I install Mavericks to 512GB SSD in PCIe slot, installation finishes without problem, but the system NEVER boot up with that drive.
    It is not uncommon to have trouble installing, cloning, or booting from a PCIe card - though the Sonnet Tempo Pro SSD is one of the reliable ones, still, you should install the OS first on SATA II normally, then move the SSD to its new home.
    The fact the SSD works on the ODD port - have you asked or looked for firmware update or anything from Sonnet and what they have to say?
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