Workflow between fcp and soundtrack pro

i am working on getting the workflow between final cut pro and soundtrack pro right for several weeks now, and i have to say, i expected more.
not that all the special gadgets aren't there, they are just not working the way they describe them in their manual or other sources.
am i the only who has made such experiences working with these tools?
for example: if i want to send a single clip from my timeline to soundtrack, there should be the possibility to have in and out points, so that final cut doesn't send the whole clip (even the parts i don't use ) to soundtrack. cool feature if it would work! no matter what you do it always sends the whole clip to soundtrack and therefore saves the whole file with all the changes and effects. and we don't talk about 8 or 9 MB here. a single clip of 1 minute, altered with EQ, takes up to 80 MB to save!!
another problem from my point of view is the exchange of whole sequences. the whole thing heavily depends on the use of markers, because without them someone working with soundtrack doesn't even see were the cuts are, which makes it nearly impossible to synchronise sounds. markers have to be placed at every single cut.
i could go in like this, but first i would like to know if i mist some fundamental thing about the use of these two pieces of software.

It depends on how you are working. If you've sent over something as a Multitrack project then you have to export the mix and edit it back in as it doesn't update in the same way. A STP audio file shoul update upon saving.

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