Workflow to make PAL dvd

I have DVC Pro 720p and need to make a dvd in PAL for festival submission.
I know Compressor isn't the best way to go for quality.
What's a good workflow? I am thinking convert to PAL DVDPro50, then create an MPEG2 from that.
Any setting ideas would be helpful as well.
Thanks guys.

PAL isn't just a different frame rate, right? It is also a different resolution.
Personally, I'm getting ready to head overseas for an extended period of time and will be shooting NTSC and HD (not sure which format yet). I will need to output to formats played all over the world in different locations on different formats. Is PAL completely standardized like NTSC? Or are there all kinds of formats like HD? Do you make a DVD just like it were NTSC, just with different resolution menus, etc?
Any insight would be huge. Thanks. If I get little feedback, I'll just start my own thread...
Another question. Should I convert my footage to PAL before editing and? Or should I just edit in the native format (NTSC or HD) and then just convert after it's been edited? The latter is preferred since many of these edits I'll need in multiple formats anyways.

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Workflow for converting PAL DVD to NTSC

Hi,
I have read this thread
"http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7387015#7387015"
but am a little unclear and would appreciate some help.
I have shot 3 short movies in PAL anamorphic, edited in Final Cut Express HD 3.5, exported using the Quicktime Movie option, altered with QT Pro to put back to anamorphic, then added to an iDVD '08 widescreen project.
Everything is fine, but I have realised that some of the recipients are in the Bahamas and require NTSC.
The project is a paid commission so I want to ensure the conversion is as good as possible, without any re-digitising / editing.
I duplicated my iDVD project and have used the project info pane to change to NTSC format. I deleted the encoded assets and this has set of iDVD to re-encode. Is a re-burn all that is required once encoding is done?
It seems this is the easiest option, but are you suggesting the conversion can be better if i use the free JES deinterlacer product.
To integrate this into my workflow I am assuming I could duplicate my asset folder (that contains the quicktime exports from Final Cut) and convert them using JES.
Modification to these quicktimes (ie. a re-edit and export from Final Cut) would usually result in iDVD updating its content upon open.
Am I on the right track?
I have had a quick look at JES. I have added a file to convert and looked at the projects tab.
Do I just have to choose "Standards conversion" & select "NTSC"? What should I set out of "Blend, Telecine or Minimal Blend" for best quality.
I am using an Intel iMac with 2gb of memory.
Thanks
Eric

Thanks for responding. I am currently trying a few options in JES but I was wondering if you have any idea of the best options to select.
I have tried the Export radio button option to DV Stream and Quicktime, but the resulting output is quite a bit smaller than the Final Cut Express Movie File that is the source. I am concerned the quality is reducing.
I am now using the Direct / DV-NTSC output option to see the file size of that.
With regards to iDVD, that process took a hour or so for the automatic re-encode of the project assets and then a burn. It seems to play fine on my MacBook, and there appears to be no detectable degradation. The process seems fine. Has Apple caught up with JES Deinterlacer, or is the benefit not appreciable when not using HD footage or better?
Thanks
Eric

I need a workflow for a PAL DVD from Sony HXR-NX5U footage.

Dear community,
My task is as stated in the title.
Please let me know what process you guys and/or gals have with complete success.

OK, my camera shoots in NTSC frame rates only, as I purchased the cam in the US. (Subsequently, Sony released this upgrade to make the NX5U have the option to switch to PAL Frae rates) whcih I will be doing...
Do you mean that this camera is natively switchable between PAL and NTSC - how so?

Pal dvd settings

I have accidently deleted all the apple dvd settings out of compressor 3. Ive been told the only way to get them back would be to re install final cut studio. Its not possible for me to do this at the moment.
Would it be possible for any one who works in pal and makes pal dvds to recommend settings to me. I only have one setting at the moment which is constant bit rate to make preview disks.
Thanks for any help

Here is a guide to help you if you want to uninstall and reinstall compressor only.
http://www.digitalrebellion.com/blog/posts/howto_reinstall_compressor_andqmaster.html

Importing PAL DVD to Edit and Export as NTSC DV

A producer in China has Betacam SP PAL material that I need for a DV NTSC Project. I am not confident that a standards conversion process in Beijing will yield acceptable quality. I'm thinking of asking him to make PAL DVDs of the footage to send to me. Does anyone have experience with importing PAL DVD into an NTSC project, to master as NTSC DV? Will the quality of the PAL DVD measure up to the NTSC DV? Thanks for any help or advice you can offer.

I'm still waiting to hear whether they would send the tapes. I suppose I could ask them to make a Beta SP PAL clone and send that to me. But we're getting into a lot more cost here -- a high quality dub on their end and a high-quality standards conversion here in the States. Since this project will result in a standard NTSC DVD, I'm hoping that maybe going the PAL DVD route would save a bunch of bucks and still be acceptable quality. If anyone has actual experience importing PAL DVD to Final Cut Pro, perhaps they could speak to that.

Making PAL dvd from NTSC movie

I have all my DVD assets in NTSC, and I produced a good quality NTSC DVD. I have been asked from relative to make PAL DVD. I have converted the sequences to PAL.
My question is . Do I have to convert also to PAL the IDV menu, the shot picture in the menu, and the Itunes in the menu.
If your aswer is yes! - How can I do that? I am using Mac G5 final cut pro 4. Your help is appreciated
Thanks
Moussa

My sequence is already converted to PAL.
1. When I recreate the menu. Do I have to convert the menu to PAL?
2. When I recreate the picture shot background to the menu. Do I have to convert the still picture also to PAL, before importing?
3. When I imported the music to background/Menu. The music is too loud. Can I lower the volume from the menu?
4. When I convert my sequence from NTSC to PAL. How can I know that my new sequence turned to be PAL? (I am using MPEG Streamclip) When I went to get info on the new sequence, there is no sign if the sequence is PAL or NTSC.
Please help. This is very confusing
thanks
moussa

Apple DVD player cropping Pal DVDs created in DVD Studio Pro

Very strange phenomenon going on here: I own a 17 inch macbook pro, purchased in Canada. I live in the UK now and sometimes am required to make Pal DVDs in DVD Studio Pro. When I do this and pop them in to play, the apple DVD player (in Leopard & Snow Leopard) crops the top and bottom off the 16:9 DVD. When I exit full screen mode and then re-enter it, the DVD appears as it should (without cropping). However, when I produce a Pal DVD in Adobe Encore and do the exact same thing, it always plays perfectly on the first try. This must be some sort of a bug, but it hasn't been reported by anyone on the net. I've tried reinstalling the operating system, as well as deleting the preference files of both DVD Studio Pro and the Apple DVD player. What is going on?

I used to see that too, on my 15" Macbook but put it down to a glitch in the video rendering - it certainly isn's a DVDSP issue, but lots of folk have seen it. Discs that show this on DVD Player should play back fine in a set top box. If they don't there's a further issue to solve!

HD NTSC to PAL DVD workflow... help?

Hi all,
I poured through the forums regarding this question and could not find a suitable answer. And (of course) I am in a rush for my client.
I have shot and edited a DVCPRO HD 720x60P video, and now I need to get this thing into a PAL DVD.
I tried exporting the video as Apple Pro-Res 422 PAL, and there are problems with the aspect ratio changing, and about 60% of the cross dissolves flash black for a second.
Anyway, after reading through the forums, I realize that I am in the dark for a workflow to get this video out of FCP and into either DVDSP or iDVD (this will be a simple DVD, and iDVD is good enough), and make sure it plays on a DVD player in Scotland.
Any suggestions as to how to best get from point A to point B?
Also, is there no PAL that is close to 16:9?
Sorry for the silly questions... I am out of my comfort zone here... and on the clock.
Matt

From what I understand from my PAL land friends, their current generation DVD players can deal with NTSC disks. Why don't you check with the person who will play it back and see what equipment they have.
You did not say how you did the conversion but I would do this.
• Export a file from FCP using "current settings"
• Import it into Compressor
• Apply the advanced format conversion preset for DV/PAL anamorphic and submit the job
This will give you an 16:9 DV/PAL video.
If this has problems, you may need to do the conversion in two steps.
• Export a file from FCP using "current settings"
• Import it into Compressor
• Apply the advanced format conversion preset for DV/NTSC anamorphic and submit the job
• Import the resulting DV/NTSC anamorphic file into compressor
• Apply the advanced format conversion preset for DV/PAL anamorphic and submit the job
x

Very best 1080i60 to PAL DVD workflow, please?

Hey guys,
I've been handed some footage shot in HDV1080i60 on a Z1. Trouble is that it was supposed to be shot in 1080i50, because we need to make a PAL DVD at the end of this..
So I'm wondering what, using the FCS2 suite is the best workflow.. I'm thinking of capturing 1080i60 and then converting that to PAL via Compressor using Optical flow..
I don't know if it is better to edit in 1080i60, then convert before going to DVD, or to convert before editing..
Any advice on what would be the ideal workflow would be gratefully appreciated..
Pete

Hmm, yep of course converting the copius quantities of raw footage will take forever. Thanks for the advice on a editing codec..
I was gonna say that yeah while most PAL DVD players will play NTSC, that I cannot deliver on NTSC..
But now I'm thinking that provided it plays on their player they'd never know the difference. (Wedding video)
Maybe I'll send through a draft copy as NTSC & see if they grumble about playability. If not I'll deliver NTSC DVD..
Thanks for the answer..

Workflow for dual NTSC and PAL DVD project

Hello,
I am really in need of professional advice here, and any tips would be GREATLY appreciated. I am not an expert in Final Cut Studio, but I am OK to get things done on the project I am working on. Some things, despite cracking through multiple manuals, I can't properly figure out... THANKS AGAIN for any help!
I am working on a DVD project which I want to release in two versions: NTSC version in US, and PAL version for Poland — same content. Content was created using DV-NTSC Quicktime files, made on import from an American mini-DV SONY camcorder into Final Cut Pro. All the titles created in Photoshop were created in 720 x 540 and converted to 720 x 480 for the sequences.
I made one NTSC DVD using Studio Pro, and it seems to work okay, with some minor tweaks. But I really need to know what is the best way to make a PAL DVD with minimal quality loss. I need to set up this project correctly, because I have a **** of a lot of work to do, and I don't want to screw it up by incorrect setup.
So many questions... Should I use separate Final Cut sequence files, with different settings, for each disc? Should I finish my work in sequences with NTSC settings in Final Cut, and then use Compressor to export to PAL from within Final Cut? Really, what is the best workflow for something like this? I would dearly appreciate any advice.
Many thanks!
Rad

First off - you can do this. Finish your work in NTSC. Then go buy the Graeme Natress plug for FCP. http://www.nattress.com/standardsConversion.htm
Download and install the app. THen follow the instructions on his site. It's a short turorial movie and you're done.
Heads up - you'll need to first export NTSC Quicktime files of each of your movies.
Hope this helps.
Brian

Can Encore make a Pal DVD from NTSC source?

Can Encore make a Pal DVD from NTSC source?

Convert NTSC <--> PAL http://forums.adobe.com/thread/995779
Regions and NTSC vs PAL http://forums.adobe.com/thread/951042

Best workflow for footage in 1440x1080 and vid rate 23.98fps going to a PAL DVD player in europe

I am new at this and still getting a grasp of the technical details. I've made several trips to Germany over the last three years and each time have shot using different settings. Right now I am editing the footage from the first year where I shot 1080i and 24p (Canon XHA1). I've already sent some DVDs with films I edited from this trip, but not sure I've achieved the best result that I can in terms of image quality. What i think i've been doing so far is to edit in the original NTSC, and then when i get ready to burn the DVD to send to my relatives in Germany, I have set the Project Info settings in iDVD to PAL. But from reading the boards I am getting the sense that there are multiple ways to do this, each with varying results. Obviously, I'd like to have my German viewers view a DVD with the best quality picture, and am wondering what is the best way to go about this. I've also read on the boards that most PAL dvd players will play NTSC, which makes me wonder if burning the DVD with iDVD set to PAL is necessary. I've already been told by one of my relatives who has viewed the same film here in america (burned as NTSC) and in Germany (one I sent burned as PAL), that the PAL versions did not have as good a picture quality. Any suggestions?
Also, if you knew that your primary audience was going to be PAL viewers, and you are shooting with an NTSC camera, what would the ideal settings be? On my canon xha1, my frame rate options are 60i, 30f, and 24f. My 'comp out' options are 480i and 080i/480i. My understanding is 1080i50 would be better for PAL, but 25fps is not an option on my camera.
Thanks,
Paul

Well it must be 24 over 29.97 then because it is working with it. I have been able to create timelines and export quicktime movies, etc. The item properties (in FCE Browser) of the clips definitely say 23.98fps-- as I would expect because I know I had the camera set to 24p. However, the frame rate of the sequences i've been editing on say 29.97. This is without me having made any conscious effort to manipulate any settings for the sequences at the outset-- I didn't even know the sequences had settings for this when i started. I just began dragging and dropping footage out of the browser and it must have automatically set the sequence to 29.97. Who knows what I had the Easy Set up set to when i brought the footage over from my camera two years ago. I knew even less then. Are the settings on Easy Set up critical when bringing the footage onto your computer from your camera? What processes are the Easy set up settings governing?
Even with all of that said, you would recommend burning the DVD as an NTSC? An NTSC in a new PAL DVD player will look better than an NTSC burned as a PAL? I suppose I could send them both versions and see which one looks better.
Thanks for you help Tom.
P.S.
On the true 24p issue, I did find this:
There are many posts out there about the Canon XH A1 not having "true 24p".
I think much of that misinformation out there maybe stemmed from (correct me if I'm wrong):
Canon Frame Mode on the standard DV cams was a "simulation: of the 24 frame look.
The Canon HDV 24p actually records each single frame progressively, but using an interlaced method.

Exporting problem: How can I make a PAL DVD with NTSC footage?

Hi everyone,
I need some help as I've been trying to burn a DVD for a couple of days now but it still isn't working. Here is my situation:
I shot a lot of standard definition DV with my Canon GL-2 (NTSC, bought in America) that I imported into the trial version of Premiere 5.5.
I edited the footage and set out to make a DVD with the footage that will play on PAL televisions as I live in Australia now and it's all PAL over here.
I exported the footage and put it onto Windows DVD Maker because the trial version of Premiere doesn't let you use Encore.
The footage looked great on Premiere and on the little preview that you get through Windows DVD Maker, but when I burnt the DVD and tried playing it on my TV it looked really bad.
The big problem was the color. Everything was much too red, particularly people's faces.
I assume the problem lies in my export settings, and I was hoping someome who has done this before could help me out. I tried a variety of settings, but they all looked bad and I'd prefer not to waste any more money on DVDs that look like hell.
Is there anyone out there who can tell me how I can get the DVD to look like it does on my computer? What setting would I need to apply? I have been all over the internet, looking at a lot of tutorials and forums, but havent found an answer yet.
Thanks a bunch!
Shawn
PS- My academic credentials have now been verified by Adobe, so if you know a way to do this using Encore, please let me know because in a few hours I will have access to that as well. Cheers!

Hey shooternz, thanks for the fast reply.
My DVD player is playing the DVDs so that's OK, the real problem is that they look so bad. I just bought a whole mess of DVDs because I thought I would just experiment while I was waiting to see if anyone could help me out, and the results have been frustrating. I tried it with all PAL settings and the first DVD I made was much better. That one didnt have all of the sections, just one of the chapters (I wanted to check quickly whether the setting I had was a good one, so I just put a short 7 minute clip on). Encouraged, I tried burning the whole disc using the same settings, but it came out crappy again. Much too red. This is really frustrating me. My computer is new, so I can't see why there would be any problem with the DVD burner, but if two DVDs with the same export settings are coming out differently, I'm thinking it might have to be a problem with either the DVD burner or the DVDs?
Can anybody suggest anything? I'm dying here.

1080i60 file to PAL dvd

i have a motion based animation. 1920 x 1080 that i need to convert for use in a pal dvd. seems simple, but all i need to do is run it through the 1080i60 PAL preset in compressor (which only changes the fps to 25) and then compress that as a mpeg?
am i missing anything?
macbook pro 2.33 Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Hope you asked us to disregard because you figured it out or got help, not because you're giving up!
There are some excellent white papers (pdfs) on this site about FCP workflows.
One thing to keep in mind is that changing the easy setup will only change the default settings for new elements you create. Existing sequences will keep their original settings, which if you think about it is the way you would want it.
Also, you don't have to make a separate version of the project, you can duplicate the sequenc ein the original project - I find file management easier this way.
Good luck -
Max Average

HDV to NTCS DVD works... is it the same for a PAL DVD?

Hello
I created a DVD from HDV material using these settings with compressor:
http://www.larryjordan.biz/articles/bkhdvconvert.html
basicallythe options are: DVD Best Quality 90 min 16:9
Video Format Tab in the Inspector to manually set filed dominance to "botom first"
It worked fine.
Now i need to create a PAL DVD. what would i need to change?
just set the video format to PAL in the inspector window? and then in DVD studio pro set it to PAL again?
thanks.
Leon.
thanks.

let me see if I can help out a little here.
The problem with converting 1080i to SD in software is that FCP seems to do a not-very-good job of downsampling the image, particularly when you are going directly to DV. Details get blurry, and other compression artifacts become quite noticeable. I have also experienced trouble with the HDV fields not getting processed correctly if I go to SD mpeg directly from an HDV timeline or movie file.
Your best bet is one of the following workflows:
Export a 1080i HDV or AIC movie file and re-import to FCP. Place this clip into an anamorphic SD sequence. It doesn't matter if the sequence is DV or Uncompressed if you send the sequence directly to Compressor from FCP, because this will ignore any rendered material and use an uncompressed image buffer as it encodes the mpeg. Do not letterbox your widescreen video if you are going to DVD - widescreen DVD video should always be full-frame anamorphic.
Your other option is to attempt to use Compressor to down-res the sequence or a self-contained movie of your HDV, starting with one of the advnace format conversion presets in Compressor. However, you'll have to cutstomize the preset by turning on the frame controls, and testing the settings to make sure you are happy with the result. Turning on frame controls will increase the ratio of your encoding time anywhere from 4 to 20:1.
I have tried all of these methods, and none of them look as good as capturing the downconverted video from the deck after mastering to HDV tape.
Hope this helps -
Max Average

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