Working time approval with MSS

Hello,
I am trying to configure the MSS in order to approve the recorded times. Using cProjects for resource handling I would like to see the times to approve in the hierarchy of the project (with project, phase and taks). I would like this hierarchy in combination with the personal no, ... by choosing different views.
At the moment I only found the time approval application for the line manager. This isn't sufficient for us in terms of userfriendlyness.
Now I am searching the application sap.com/msscatapproval/CatProjectApprove in my portal. Unfortunately without success at the moment.
Could someone describe me how you are using the record time approval? How does the hierarchy of the items look like. Did you write your own application? Is it possible to drill down and drill up the data?
Thank you,
Vanessa

Hi Mariana
You would have the use the workflow and create a Portal role containing only UWL
Best wishes
Stuart

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