Working with raw/NEF Files..Software Choices?
Just got a new Nikon D50. I'm a pure consumer user, but I'm figuring I should at least consider using the NEF (raw) format some of the time. I gather that iPhoto will convert these to jpg files, but what about software for editing the pictures? As I said, pure consumer use here so I don't want to invest hundreds of dollars in some high end program. Are there some basic, consumer-oriented programs to consider? I have an Intel iMac, by the way. Thanks.
Clarification: this is a user forum; you are not addressing Adobe here.
The answer to your question as phrased is: never.
CS5 is history and it is not longer supported. There will not be any updates or bug fixes for CS5.
You need to convert the raw NEF files from your D810 to raw DNGs using the free, standalone Adobe DNG Converter 8.6 RC (beta), the first version ever to support that camera..
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Raw files from the new Nikon D810 will not open with either Photoshop CS5.1 or Lightroom 4. When will a real Adobe solution be available to work with Raw (NEF) files in their native format, using CS5.1 and LR4?
Clarification: this is a user forum; you are not addressing Adobe here.
The answer to your question as phrased is: never.
CS5 is history and it is not longer supported. There will not be any updates or bug fixes for CS5.
You need to convert the raw NEF files from your D810 to raw DNGs using the free, standalone Adobe DNG Converter 8.6 RC (beta), the first version ever to support that camera.. -
PS 6 (CS6 -premium) ARC problems with RAW/NEF Files
Hi,
the upgrade from CS 5 to CS6 preium was correct. But I cann´t open der RAW ode NEF Files from my new Nikon D4 in PS.
One month ago I bought Lightroom 4 and practices my work with CS5 an an update of ARC to 6.7 that combination runs perfect.
But now with ARC 7.0 it ist impossible to open the RAW files.
Your help is needed urgentliy.
Greeetings Arnoldhttp://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/05/camera-raw-7-1-adds-hdr-tonemapping-to-cs6.html
Read the list and then act accordingly.
Mylenium -
Working with raw .MTS files, no AVCHD folder structure
Hi, I've backed up raw .MTS files to Blu-ray data discs, just the files not the AVCHD folder structures.
I've read about this and everyone says it's not the right way of doing things, that it requires the entire ACVHD folder structure to function.
However when I load these files back onto my Mac from the discs they import just fine into FCPX 10.1.1 natively or optimized. I've had no issues with it at all so why are people so against that way of doing things?
Just curious.saddact wrote:
Can you explain why they would have gone through multiple generations of compression?
Your camera(s) shot in a certain format. It could use any of a number of codecs – including variants of MPEG2, H.264, whatever. So you import that into FCP and edit – either natively or in optimized. Then you export. When you export, it recompresses – in this case to a fairly high bit rate version of H,264. But to be clear, it always recompresses – even if your camera used H,264 to acquire the media, and you don't optimize, it will recompress in exporting to Blu Ray specs. Inevitably, there is some loss of infomation. It may or may not be a detectable loss.
HTH.
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RAW files from my Nikon Df (NEF) will not display in Lightroom. Same format from Nikon D300s works. Camera firmware is current. Df RAW (NEF) files display in Nikon software products, not in Apple software (Aperture or iPhoto).
http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html
The above list show the current camera models supported by Adobe Camera Raw (plugin for PS CC) and Lightroom 5.3.
You will see that the Df Raw support was provided in the latest version of LR 5.3. Support for the D300s was introduced in LR 2.5. (the NEF files are different.)
Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw can only be updated after the camera manufacturer has produced the camera and made it publicly available. If you are using an earlier version of Lightroom then that is your problem.
Please post details of the version you are using at present. -
Working with RAW files in iPhoto 5.0.4 and Elements 4.0.1
I take photos in RAW mode and download them to iPhoto. When I try to edit the photo in iPhoto, the picture is a tiny little file that is impossible to enlarge with any sort of clarity. Also, the word "RAW" does not appear anywhere on the iPhoto window like I read it is supposed to.
When I drag the file to Photoshop Elements, I get an editing window that has none of the tools usually associated with JPEG files. I get a separate window in which I can darken or lighten the image, that's it.
Clearly, I'm doing something wrong. No one in their right mind would ever use RAW if this is how it works.
Any ideas?Hi Jack!
If you're new working with RAW files, your right, it just doesn't make sense. RAW <imho> is a bit overrated. One thing you will need to keep in mind when shooting in RAW, is you will still need to take a well exposed image. What RAW files will allow are CHANGES in all areas of the image v. JPEG which may allow you to ADJUST a few settings in the image. My only suggestion would be to kepp playing around with PSE until you get the hang of it, it is an excellent image editing software. But realize, a well exposed JPEG and RAW file are hard to tell apart...
Personally, I do not directly download RAW files through iPhoto but will create a folder and download to here, and simply drage folder to iPhoto to import (which are then 'converted' into JPEG files). This way I have the original RAW images safely located outside of iPhoto as well as in iPhoto. You should set Elements as your choice of application to edit files inside iPhoto.
Good luck, Rick
Good link: http://www.elementsvillage.com/forums/ and just for fun: http://www.photoshopcosmetics.com/index.php -
Had my Nikon D600 recently in for the updated service call. Camera works fine but Photoshop says it cannot open my RAW (NEF) files now? It worked fine before and I have done all my updates.
The only thing I can think of is if you got a replacement D610 as rumored here:
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/01/27/nikon-is-replacing-some-d600-cameras-with-new-d610-model s.aspx/
In that case, you would need the new version of Camera RAW or DNG converter as per Camera Raw plug-in | Supported cameras .
The other thing to check is if the files open in the Nikon native ViewNX software. If they don't it's time to call the service center. -
Merge to HDR Pro does not work on Nikon D800 RAW (NEF) files
Hi,
I can't get Merge to HDR Pro to work on NEF RAW files from my Nikon D800 - nothing happens after after confirming the file selection. However, it works ok if I convert those files to DNG (using Lightroom 4), and if I use the D800's JPGs, and if I use Nikon D7000 NEFs. It just seems to be a problem with Nikon D800 NEFs.
Steps taken:
1. File -> Automate -> Merge to HDR Pro
2. Browse... and select NEF files (even selecting 2 files does not work).
3. Attempt to Automatically Align Source Images is checked. Then press OK.
Expected result:
Progress cursor spins as files are loaded and HDR dialog appears.
Actual result:
Nothing happens - no progress cursor or CPU or disk activity - it is as if I had clicked cancel instead of ok.
This is a clean install of the 64 bit CS6 beta on Windows 7 64 bit, with no plugins, and I reset preferences (Ctrl+Alt+Shift on startup). I do have my existing CS5 Extended still installed, as well as Lightroom 3.6 and 4.0.
I can send you the NEFs if you like.
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The Ps CS6 public beta version contains the same camera support as found in Ps CS5/5.5 compatible CR 6.6. There will be future updates to CR 7 for Ps CS6 to pick up more camera support. The Nikon D800 NEF files are not supported, yet.
If you like to work with your D800 files in the public beta build now, you'll have to get the DNG Converter 6.7 from here: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/cameraraw6-7/
and convert your files to DNG.
regards,
steve -
Working with RAW files in PSE9: Doable or better to use PSE12?
I have PSE 9 and will soon get a camera with RAW capability. I notice that Adobe no longer supports PSE 9. Am I in for trouble if I don't upgrade to PSE 12 since I don't know how to work with RAW files? It sounds as if I will need something to convert RAW files? Where do I get it? Is it a big deal for a beginner with no software skills?
You can download a free DNG Converter from Adobe and then convert your RAWs to DNGs which can be used in PSE9.
You don't need PSE12, but if you want to purchase PSE 12, you get the most current features in the Raw processor (which in my opinion is a huge improvement over what is available in PSE9), and you don't need the extra step of converting to DNG. -
I can't read Nikon D5200 Raw NEF files with CS6 under Windows 8.1?
I bought a new PC so I could use Photoshop CS6 more efficiently. However, after I installed CS6, I can't read Nikon D5200 Raw NEF files under Windows 8.1. I've tried updating CS6, but nothing seems to work.
First, I hadto load the most recent version of the Adobe Application Manager. Then I could see all of the CS6 Updates including the most recent Camera Raw update.
I had to run one update at a time for it to work correctly.
But now I'm cooking with gas.
Thanks for your help. -
Working with Raw Files: Workflow question
I am seriously a novice and need some advice. I have a Nikon D40x and I'm using Aperture software. I am shooting in raw (nef)+ jpg. I have uploaded the pics via aperture. When I import, a pop-up import menu says RAW + JPEG PAIRS: BOTH (JPG as master).
No problem here. Now I want to do some "fancy editing" but all I see is the jpg copy. How to I get to the raw (nef) file? And once I do and make changes, do I need to convert it to something else? HOW?
Any and all advice welcome! (Preferably in layman's terms, though. I'm already overwhelmed by all of the techie jargon).My advice:
Stop wasting your time doing jpg and nefs - just do nefs.
You also need to read the introduction to Aperture and possibly the Aperture manual if you want to get competent in the use of Aperture. Some of the principles and concepts need to be understood before you can use Aperture effectively - forget about "fancy" - you need "fundamentals" first. Might sound like I"m telling you to suck eggs, but this understanding is really important. Who knows - reading the manual might even answer the question you just asked...
Regards,
Calx -
Software available for working with large video files?
Hello,
I'm working in PP CS6. I was wondering if there are any workarounds or 3rd party plugins/software that
make working with really large video files easier and faster?
Thanks.
MarkHi Jeff,
Thanks for helping. This is the first time I shot video with my Nikon D5200. It was only a 3 minute test clip
set at the highest resolution, 1920x1080-60i. I saw the red line above the clip in PP CS6 and hit the enter
key to render the clip.
It took almost 18 minutes or so to render the clip. This is probably normal but I was wondering if there is
a way to reduce the file size so it doesn't take quite as long to render. I just remember a few years back
that when the Red camera was out, guys were working with really huge files and there was a program
from Cine something that they used to reduce the file size and make it more manageable when editing.
I could be mistaken. I've been out of the editing look for a few years and just getting back into it.
Thanks.
Mark
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I have a Nikon D200 and have been taking some pictures in their RAW format (.NEF) and have some questions. It transfers the pictures fine but then does some other weird stuff.
Sometimes, for seemingly no reason at all, when working in iPhoto, it changes the format to a jpeg and while others remain RAW. I looked in my iPhoto Library in my user folder and it looks like iPhoto automatically converts every RAW picture into a jpeg. But in the iPhoto window, sometimes you're looking at the jpeg and sometimes you're looking at the RAW. Is there some way to make iPhoto act more consistently? And can I make iPhoto stop automatically creating a jpeg version of each RAW photo?
Also, I exported some RAW pictures as TIFF's to work with in photoshop. Once there, the pictures only have a dpi resolution of 72 pixels per square inch. That's way too low for my purposes. Does anybody know if there is a setting or something where I can change this?Hi BW Lee,
I don't take RAW, but I can get you started with some info to help you out:
Supported RAW cameras
iPhoto 5 Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ): Working with RAW images
Working with RAW in iPhoto 5
For iPhoto 6 check out this link;
http://www.thedigitalstory.com/blog/2006/01/iphoto6_changesfor.html -
Camera raw is not working on my NEF files D600
camera raw is not working on my NEF files D600.. I ALREADY TRIED all of the updates ( first 7.3, 7.4 even the 8.1) i have the photoshop cs6 and im not finding a way to make it read my files!!! even the DMG converter its not reading them!!
It might be the way you are downloading them. I believe that Nikon Transfer has been updated to overcome a corruption bug which affects Adobe products.
If you are using Nikon Transfer, it might be worth updating to the latest version, and downloading your photos again. Or use Adobe Photodownloader instead (I would).
Also, accepted wisdom is to download photos off the memory card using a card reader, rather than via the camera USB, as it is less prone to problems. YMMV. -
Problems working with raw files
just purchased elements 5 to work with raw files. have downloaded 4.2 and installed it into correct file and have moved existing raw 8 bit file to desktop. when i try to import raw files into elements it still wont let me. stating error or wrong file type or something. i am working with windows xp. and shooting with a nikon D80.
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> Martin ... Not many Elements users here ... the Elements forum is
> here:
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> That said ... check Elements' 'Help' menu for the ability to list the
> verion of ACR installed, and any ability to "update" automatically.
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> HTH :)
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I don't think that ACR 4.2 will work with Elements 5.
John Passaneau
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