Workshop and CVS

Hi,
Has anyone been successful in linking up workshop 8.1 with CVS. I get this weird
message when I try. I am using the pserver option.
add starting...
Usage: cvs add [-k rcs-kflag] [-m message] files...
-k Use "rcs-kflag" to add the file with the specified kflag.
-m Use "message" for the creation log.
(Specify the --help global option for a list of other help options)
add finished.
--Krish.

Krish,
Please post this question in the Workshop 8.1 beta newsgroup.
weblogic.developer.interest.81beta.workshop
http://newsgroups.bea.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=xover&group=weblogic.developer.interest.81beta.workshop&utag=
Thanks
Raj Alagumalai
WebLogic Workshop Support
"Krish Khambadkone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3eee6b44$[email protected]..
>
Hi,
Has anyone been successful in linking up workshop 8.1 with CVS. I getthis weird
message when I try. I am using the pserver option.
add starting...
Usage: cvs add [-k rcs-kflag] [-m message] files...
-k Use "rcs-kflag" to add the file with the specified kflag.
-m Use "message" for the creation log.
(Specify the --help global option for a list of other help options)
add finished.
--Krish.

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steelystan wrote:
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plugin over and above the JBuilder/WebLogic Server installation. I never got
the plugin.
Also, you would need clarification on what the plugin addresses. WebLogic Server
has two different web service implementations. You mentioned .jws files so that
makes me believe that you are using workshop-enabled web services not WebLogic's
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pat
"Tanya" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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I keep seeing advertisements and bulletins that Workshop and JBuilder integrate,
but I'm unable to find any data on BEA or Borland’s web sites. Do they integrate
more than a simple recognition of .jws files?

Hi,
Last October, I took a JBuilder for WebLogic course. I asked about web services
support. I was told at the time (JBuilder 7) that you had to have an additional
plugin over and above the JBuilder/WebLogic Server installation. I never got
the plugin.
Also, you would need clarification on what the plugin addresses. WebLogic Server
has two different web service implementations. You mentioned .jws files so that
makes me believe that you are using workshop-enabled web services not WebLogic's
standalone (ant script) web service implementation. You need clarification on
which (either? both?) JBuilder supports.
I belive that you can start by opening a support case with BEA. Then if BEA needs
clarification from Borland, BEA will contact Borland.
hope this helps,
pat
"Tanya" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
I keep seeing advertisements and bulletins that Workshop and JBuilder
integrate,
but I'm unable to find any data on BEA or Borland’s web sites. Do they
integrate
more than a simple recognition of .jws files?

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