World of Warcraft from Core 2 Duo to i7: heat and fans

Hi,
I've been playing World of Warcraft on my 2008 Core 2 Duo 2.93MHz for some time now, with moderate rendering settings, at 1024x640 in window mode so I could check mail and other things. I was very satisfied with the whole thing.
I recently upgraded to the top 2.66MHz i7 with 8MB RAM. With exactly the same settings WoW now uses apparently more CPU cycles and brings CPU heat between 70° and 90°. Therefore fans quickly jump towards 6000rpm. I tried to lower the settings, to no avail.
And I thought with that new machine I could use WoW with full resolution and settings...
Is there something I should be aware of?

Hi
My i7 macbook pro also runs very hot, i.e. 90 degrees when playing Championship Manager or Dragon Age Origin with all settings at max.
Mind you, the i7 in the macbook have turbo boost speed around the same as you old macbook, also it have hyper threading which increase the core temperatures.
So overall, the i7 have more transistors than the core 2, so it will produce more heat and require more air flow to cool it therefore faster fan speed.
for me, I've stooped play games on the macbook for the reason as I don't want the CPU to operate so close to its maximum temperature for long period of time.
I'm don't think its harmful to the macbook to play games continuously. But I don't think the macbook is not designed as a game laptop, and no other applications I use stress both the CPU and GPU close to 100% at the same time for any long period.
But I do have a PC if I want to play games.
Message was edited by: 88_King

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Dear Apple Support Community.
As mentioned by a number of users reporting the same problem, my 2009 iMac CPU3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 8GB RAM, has become extremely slow and repeatedly "out of Memory" since it was migrated from Mountain Lion to Mavericks (OS 10.9 then OS 10.9.1).
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For information, I have also upgraded my 2011 MacBook CPU2.3 GHz Core i7, 8GB which became only a bit slower than before, sometimes freezing which it almost never did before. However, I am used to the fact that Mac get usually slower and more prompt fo freeze after upgrading to a more recent OS.
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So please find below the details of the EtreCheck experience and some additional measurements made with iStat while running EtreCheck:
Hardware Information:
iMac (24-inch, Early 2009)
iMac - model: iMac9,1
1 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores
8 GB RAM
Video Information:
ATI Radeon HD 4850 - VRAM: 512 MB
Audio Plug-ins:
BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9
AirPlay: Version: 1.9 - SDK 10.9
AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0 - SDK 10.9
iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9
System Software:
OS X 10.9.1 (13B42) - Uptime: 0 days 2:40:57
Disk Information:
WDC WD1001FALS-40K1B0 disk0 : (1 TB)
EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
XooS5 HD (disk0s2) /: 999.35 GB (189.85 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5670S
USB Information:
Apple Inc. Built-in iSight
Canon CanoScan
Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
FireWire Information:
WD My Passport 071D 800mbit - 800mbit max
EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
disk1s2 (disk1s2) <not mounted>: 2 TB
Boot OS X (disk1s3) <not mounted>: 134.2 MB
Thunderbolt Information:
Kernel Extensions:
com.f-secure.kext.fsauth          (1.0.0d1)
Problem System Launch Daemons:
[failed] com.apple.wdhelper.plist [REMARK: this abnormality appeared only after running CleanMyMac. It does not appear on my 2011 MacBook]
Problem System Launch Agents:
Launch Daemons:
[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
[invalid] com.bjango.istatlocaldaemon.plist [REMARK: this abnormality pre-existed to running CleanMyMac. It appears also on my 2011 MacBook]
[loaded] com.f-secure.fsavd.dbhelper.plist
[loaded] com.f-secure.fsavd.plist
[loaded] com.f-secure.fsmac.firewall.plist
[loaded] com.f-secure.fsmac.fsupdated_guts2.plist
[loaded] com.f-secure.fsmac.licensetool.plist
[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2.Agent.plist
Launch Agents:
[loaded] com.babylon.activation.plist
[loaded] com.bjango.istatlocal.plist
[loaded] com.f-secure.relauncher.plist
[loaded] com.f-secure.trasher.plist
User Launch Agents:
[loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist
[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist
[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.diskSpaceWatcher.plist
[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.scheduledScan.plist
[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.trashWatcher.plist
User Login Items:
iTunesHelper
Dropbox
F-Secure Anti-Virus for MAC
3rd Party Preference Panes:
Flash Player
Internet Plug-ins::
FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 11.9.900.170 - SDK 10.6
Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9
AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: Version: 11.0.04 - SDK 10.6
AdobePDFViewer: Version: 11.0.04 - SDK 10.6
DivXBrowserPlugin: Version: 2.1
Flash Player: Version: 11.9.900.170 - SDK 10.6
OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: Version: 12.2.8
Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 6.1
QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0
User Internet Plug-ins::
Picasa: Version: 1.0
Bad Fonts:
None
Old applications:
None
Time Machine:
Skip System Files: NO
Mobile backups: OFF
Auto backup: YES
Volumes being backed up:
XooS5 HD: Disk size: 930.71 GB Disk used: 753.90 GB
Destinations:
XooS5 TM [Local] (Last used)
Total size: 2
Total number of backups: 32
Oldest backup: 2013-09-15 01:11:39 +0000
Last backup: 2013-12-07 12:48:45 +0000
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Top Processes by CPU:
5%          backupd
5%          Mail
5%          WindowServer
3%          Finder
3%          Dropbox
Top Processes by Memory:
1.60 GB          mds_stores REMARK: this item was marked in red in the outcome of EtreCheck, so I assume there is something wrong there
82 MB          Finder
74 MB          Mail
49 MB          softwareupdated
49 MB          Dropbox
Virtual Memory Statistics:
97 MB          Free RAM
1.21 GB          Active RAM
1.19 GB          Inactive RAM
1.21 GB          Wired RAM
1.83 GB          Page-ins
36 MB          Page-outs
Please find now some additional measurements collected with iStat while running EtreCheck:
Practically:
The iMac can work slowly with only one software e.g. either Mail or Safari or Firefox, but still the below "out of Memory" message occurs about every 3 minutes.
Aperture has becomre to slow to be useable
If trying to write a mail (with Mail) while Safari or Firefox is open, then the "out of Memory" message occurs about every 20 seconds so I need to check on "Resume" several times per minute.
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The only solution I see so far is to downgrade from Mavericks to Mountain Lion. And the Apple Support Community would confirm that it is the only solution, I would appreciate to get your guidance on how to proceed.
Intended action plan
Migrate the above 2009 iMac to a 2014 Mac Mini Server operating on Mavericks to ensure that no data may be lost while downgrading to Montain Lion.
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In advance, I would like to thank the Apple Community for helping me either i) finding a cure to the problem, ii) or confirming that Mavericks cannot operate properly on Core 2 Duo computers, iii) and in such a case, guiding me on how to downgrade to Mountain Lion.
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Hey all you World of Warcraft Gamers! @Dorothy-BBY and I talked with J. Allen Brack and Tom Chilton from the Blizzard Development team. They shared some time with gamers on our forum and here's the transcript of what they discussed!
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Dorothy-BBY: Welcome to our World of Warcraft: Cataclysm chat
with Blizzard Developers Tom Chilton and J. Allen Brack, as well as moderators
Lylirra and Zarhym. Thank you all for joining us and the chat will start
shortly. Sit back, and enjoy asking some questions about Blizzard's newest
release! Game on!
JABrack: Hey there!
Tacgnol: Will the heirloom items scale to 85?
JABrack: The current plan is to
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palondon: Right now, up to 50% of Ignite damage disappears
due to the technical limitations of spells critting within certain timeframes.
This has implications for Mage dps and the value of Mastery as a stat. Is
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near future?
TomChil: We're resolving that by
rolling up any "lost" ignite damage into the next ignite that
overwrote it
deathmane: Has Blizzard considered adding a "Tabards
Tab" to the UI, so that tabard collectors can switch out tabards more
effectively without having to take up bank and bag space? --Thanks! Deathunholy
of Galakrond
JABrack: Hi. We have talked about
adding a tabard tab. We've talked about doing a closet tab to handle it. It
isn't something we are adding for Cataclysm though.
SenyoPanda: Will it be as long of a wait to fight Deathwing
as it was for Lich King?
TomChil: Hopefully not, we
definitely have a goal to get our content patches out more quickly than we have
in the past without sacrificing quality of course, we plan for deathwing to be
the most amazing encounter we've ever made! =]
Guest-124: Are there any plans to
potentially add queueing to the rated battlegrounds instead of it having to be
a pre-made raid team? I was really excited when I first heard about this
feature, but after reading the FAQ i was a bit disappointed with that design.
TomChil: we're currently looking
into the possibility of having players in the honor battleground queue be able
to be called to action by groups that aren't quite full, but we're going to see how the current queue'ing
works out first - that isn't something that would be available just yet
Guest-85: Will you allow players to fill their quest log
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7th to get a quick boost towards 85? This is how it worked in the beta, but
some players are confused on whether it will work on Live. Thanks!
JABrack: Regarding 25 daily
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it now.
Guest-224: Is Hit rating intended to tramp all other stats
but Str for Fury till the 27% hardcap? Seems excessive
TomChil: generally speaking, we
do balance hit rating to be the "best" stat until you're at the hit
rating cap
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Every magician has their secrets. We unfortunately cannot answer some of
your questions. If yours wasn't selected ask another burning question and we'll
see if our hosts can get to them!
Guest-96: I understand the decision from an economic
perspective but I was wondering if the deveopers were disappointed in the
decision to allow race changes immediately following the release of the
expansion.
JABrack: Regarding allowing
race/faction change on day one. Actually this wasn't an economic decision at
all. This was a decision that the leadership team made. Our priority as a dev
team is to allow players to play the game with their friends, the way they want
too.
We also talked about the
fact that this is a week one problem. So we made the decision not to restrict
anything.
felixlevron: Will darnasus be re built to be a real tree or
will it always look like a dead stump with trees at the top.
TomChil: ...but now that
Deathwing is doing his thing it makes much more sense than it used to! ;]
Zarhym: Deathwing hates trees.
axelumog: A lot of players I know are trying to plan out
what characters to roll for the new expansion, and the big question is: Will
there be ANY new realms tagging along with the release of Cataclysm? Some point
to low pop realms as a reason against, but surely with the redux'd 1-60
experience and the droves of returning players desiring clean slates, there has
never been a better time for a fresh realm or two?
JABrack: We haven't decided
exactly what the new realm decisions are yet, but we open new realms when there
is player demand for them. One thing we can't do is plan all realms for day
one. The goal is for realms to have good concurrency so everyone has a great
game/matchmaking experience.
Guest-138: Could you comment on the plan for raids in
cataclysm? If i remember it was said that there would be smaller raids in cata
but more of them. Would that mean like two small raids per patch or more
patches in total?
TomChil: the idea is that we'll
have more raid environments, but fewer bosses in each environment, but a similar
total number of raid bosses overall... if that makes sense. =] So, for cataclysm launch we have the skywall
environment, the twilight bastion environment, and blackwing descent versus
having almost all the bosses in one environment like we did with naxrammas
Wikehaja: With the changes to the game environment itself,
what new computer requirements will be optimal to run the game smoothly?
JABrack: One of the things that
is really important to us is a great gaming experience regardless of your
hardware. While the system requirements do go up over time, we do want the
experience on slower machines to be great. We do this by trying to add a lot of
graphical options to allow players to control the experience from "runs
fast" all the way to "looks great".
Retro94: Will there be more than one Legendary weapon in
Cata? Will there be a Caster DPS legendary? Any info or plans would be awesome
=) Thanks!
TomChil: It's likely there will
be more than one legendary weapon, although it's too early to say for sure. We
do, however, have a plan to do a caster dps staff soon.
Guest-226: where did Uldum come from?
TomChil: Egypt ;]
JABrack: The idea with Uldum is
that it has always been there, cloaked from the eyes of the players. The
emergence of Deathwing has damaged some of the technology that kept it hidden.
There is a story in the zone that explains this and what has been happening in
the player absence.
MatthewRhino: With resource systems now broadened to include
focus, rage, energy, and runic power as well as mana, and there being
conditionals like enrages, holy power, combo points and runes, will classes
that just use mana be getting similar treatment or remaining as they are?
TomChil: Really that decision is
made on a class-by-class, talent tree-by-tree basis. If we feel like the talent
spec in question needs a broader resource management then we do it, but we
don't like to unnecessarily complicate a spec's resource management if it isn't
absolutely necessary.
Guest-14: Is the Moonkin form for troll and worgen on the
beta and ptr the final form or is it just a placeholder?
JABrack: Final!
Guest-12: Why is it that we are
not able to use Archeaology before the exspansion? I thought it was really cool
how you guys released Inscription last time and would love to have the
opportunity to level it before the exspansion drops.
JABrack: Using archeology before
the expansion was something we talked about, but ended up adding everything
about the profession to the "post sundered" world. Thus, you won't be
able to use archeology before the sundering happens.
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TomChil: We'll evaluate that on a tier by tier basis. When we have awesome ideas that we can successfully make happen we'll do multiple environments, but it won't necessarily always be the case. We do have a super cool idea for the deathwing tier though... or at least so we hope. =]
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Arakiba: What happened with the Worgen district in Stormwind?
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Dorothy-BBY: RAWR!!!
Guest-128: As the world of Azeroth is changing I was wondering if the Death Knight zone will stay the same or will it also be affected by the cataclysm?
JABrack: The death knight zone doesn't have any changes for Cataclysm.
Guest-310: I have been confused from the different posts for tier gear. Will there be three levels within each tier still or just heroic and normal and in either case will u just be getting them with points or will u still have to get certain things off drops off certain bosses to get the higher more heroic version of the tier gear?
TomChil: There is still just normal and heroic difficulty for the raid and dungeon content, and the heroic gear has a higher item level than the corresponding normal gear
Guest-392: Do you feel faction imbalance is a problem at the moment? My queue is around 10-15 min at prime time as a member of the Horde and I know this is the case on at least two of the battlegroups. If so, do you think Worgen will fix the problem? And if they do not, will free faction changes ever be a possibility in the future on battlegroups or servers with a major problem?
JABrack: We are working on some technology to further combine the PVP queues at server sites. This has been going on behind the scenes for a few weeks now in preparation for Cataclysm. Queue time is one of those things that gets a lot of attention and time, but will change significantly post Cata. Really good question.
IanG: What would you say was the hardest and/or easiest parts of developing this expansion? After all, many are saying this is the best expansion to date... So, what was the biggest challenge/easiest feat in creating it?
JABrack: There have been huge challanges with this expansion, unlike any we've seen in the other two expansions. The scale of Cataclym is huge for us, and something we didn't really expect when we started development. But we certainly feel like the effort has been worth it, and feel it's our best expansion so far.
Guest-202: Why does it seem the scorpion guild mount doesn't have a guild flag where the lion does? I was hoping to see Hordes of scorpions from our guild walking around with our tabard hanging from the tail like a flag behind them. ~ Sorenji of khaz modan
TomChil: When riding a scorpion mount, your character displays holding a large standard with your guild symbol on it.
Guest-127: Why did you decide to make 310% mount speed purchasable in 4.0? It's a huge price for such a tiny speed upgrade, and used to work well as a just-above-vanity perk for people who completed the toughest achievements.
JABrack: The primary reason was to equalize the awesome vanity mounts players had, and change the mechanic to one where you used the mount you were most excited about using. We wanted players to be able to see the mount players want, without considering the speed differential as a factor.
Guest-411: Will you allow players to change their login screen? I'd love to be able to use the Classic login screen, the unreleased one that was shown at Blizzcon, or perhaps a login screen of a previous expansion.
JABrack: Players are not able to change their login screen.
barretrifle: How would a person get a Guild Mount? Would it be guild rep? If so how would that be calculated or obtained?
TomChil: Once your guild gets to a high enough level and unlocks the guild mount, any player in the guild with a high enough guild reputation is able to buy the mount.
gandclynn: Will heirloom items work for goblins and worgens leveling from 1-80 at release?
JABrack: Heirloom items will work perfectly for Worgen and Goblin characters! Enjoy!
Dorothy-BBY: Woot!
Guest-124: Has there been any discussion of changing the heirloom items to true "Bind on Account" instead of the bind on server limitation that it has currently?.
JABrack: That is something we would like to do. Currently the servers mail carriers refuse to work together, and haven't worked out the economic terms from transferring mail from one server to another. One day we hope to resolve the union issues.
Dorothy-BBY: Thanks for all the awesome questions! Keep them coming!
Wikehaja: Will the option ever be available to change ones class, contingent upon what's currently available to the race restrictions at the time?
TomChil: Never say never, but we don't currently have plans to do that.
Guest-451: There's any through about making account wise achievement, like starcraft ones? It a reason for many players to not reroll/change mains since its look like a lot of work wasted when you switch your main char. Even changing to another char to help with one fight look a bit wrong now, if you are after achievements.
JABrack: We do have plans to solve this problem, as it is limiting people from re-rolling for sure. This is something we want to solve, but don't have a good solution on how to do it at the moment.
Josh-BBY: It's great to see how engaged you all are with this seriously rad game series!
Dorothy-BBY: EL OH EL Rad.
Guest-314: Was there anything you guys regret not being able to include at launch? Possibly something that didn't have enough polish to it that me way see in the future? (You don't need to mention the Dance Studio at this point, really, it's okay) Teln - Misha
TomChil: Well... there is the dance studio. ;] There are of course always things we'd hoped to get into any patch/expansion that get pushed out until later. One example would be the idea to have a built-in atlas that details every encounter in each dungeon/raid. We're not super happy about the fact that the first time anyone encounters a new boss, the only way to learn about it (other than looking up strategies on the web) is to charge in and die a lot.
We'd love to give players some idea of what they're about to fight before they engage the boss. =]
ZeroG56: Do honor points and Badges roll over into CATA, or do they reset to zero?
TomChil: Yes, honor points and justice points carry over into cataclysm. Stock up now!
Spyykke: Is there any talks of maybe some faction cooperative campaigns? Since the cataclysm is threatening to destroy all life of azeroth, to me a logical response from the heroes of azeroth would be to set aside their differences and be able to work together in a raid. An Idea to maybe lessen the frequency of such groups is make the raid difficulty increase by choosing to work with the other faction, a sort of Heroic mode. Possibly even dual faction specific raids. Has there been any talks of such poss...
JABrack: This is a common request, but not something we are looking to do. While there is a singular main bad guy in this expansion, the Horde and Alliance have their own unique challenges and agendas, and typically don't look to team up. After all it's the World of Warcraft, not the World of Peacecraft.
Guest-87: When designing expansions and content patches, do you have a list of new features to choose from that are planned out in advance or is there more of a brain storm session?
TomChil: The feature set for each patch is determined by a combination of doing things (or finishing things) that we've been wanting to do for a while, along with completely new ideas that emerge as a result of the immediate needs of the game
JABrack: The primary things you won't be able to do if you don't have Cataclysm are create a new Goblin/Worgen, level to 85, and fly in the orld world.
TomChil: We like to stay as flexible as possible, so it's important to us to make sure that we aren't "over planned" into the future even though the real needs players have are changing
SirHaakon: With the previous two expansions, the new content was actually on other continents, so if you didn't have the expansion, you just couldn't visit the continent. Since Cata is largely reworking of old-world content, however, how do you differentiate between someone with or without the xpac? What kinds of things will and won't be available to players don't have the upgrade?
JABrack: See my answer above!
Guest-16: Will the 80 to 85 experience be closer to the 18hr mark or the 5 day mark that was 70-80?
TomChil: That totally depends on the player to be honest, you'd be amazed by the differences in play patterns. That being said, somebody usually finds a way to level up very quickly.
Dorothy-BBY: Just so folks know, the Ustream is only for viewing the chat. Only folks in the initial 500 range are going to possibly have questions displayed. Thanks!
Guest-348: What new feature(s) in WoW: Cataclysm are you guys most proud of?
TomChil: I would have to say the 1-60 revamp, it's a ton of fun to play through the zones and an incredible amount of new content.
JABrack: I'm most happy with the new Worgen and Goblin starting experiences. I think they are the best starting experience we've ever done, and that includes the death knight.
Zarhym: I'm most proud of J. and Tom.
Guest-908: Question i have is why not have this latest expansion as a new territory like a Southrend similar to Northrend or a Moon body like Outlands instead of destroying Azeroth and Kalimdor? Were there limitations to expanding outwards or was this just to facelift the original game?
TomChil: We make decisions like this on a case by case basis.. again depending on the needs of the game. In the case of Cataclysm, the world was due in for an overhaul, and we wanted to make everything fly-able, so it was important to flesh out any areas that were originally unfinished.
Guest-441: Can you clarify and confirm what will be available to players when 4.0.3a hits and what will be unavailable until 7th Dec?
JABrack: 4.0.3a will be the patch that actually causes the world to shatter and change forever. At that point you will be able to experience the new 1-60 leveling experience, as well as the new race/class combinations. Very exciting!
milesd21: Is there an alternative mount for worgens that other races can ride
TomChil: Worgen can ride the other mounts in the game, if that's what you're asking. They're not limited to their feral run.
mikewho3: With the level 1-80 Heirloom items, when Cataclysm is released will the xp gain work while leveling until you hit level 81? Or will XP gain be disabled for those on release?
JABrack: They will not. Heirlooms stop granting their XP bonus at level 80. Not level 80.9999999.
gandclynn: Will achievment points ever be able to be used to purchase any perks?
JABrack: We have no plans to allow this. Achievements are a badge of honor only.
Josh-BBY: Hey everyone! Thank you for joining us for this chat!
JABrack: Thanks to all for everyone and their participation! Really appreciate you coming out! See you all in the game!
Dorothy-BBY: Thank you all! For the Horde!
Zarhym: Thanks all. We <3 you.
Dorothy-BBY: shameless plug for horde.
Josh-BBY: Please check back to view the chat transcript. We'll have it up here on our Forum and Blizzard will be hosting it too.
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Trying to install 10.7 on a mac mini core duo that has a core 2 duo cpu

I have installed a core 2 duo cpu (T7200) in an earlier Mac Mini core duo machine. Runs fine, the system report shows the Core 2 chip. When I try to install 10.7 over 10.6.8, however, the installer reports that it cannot install this version of OS X on this machine.
It is possible of course to install 10.7 on another machine and clone that to the hard drive here. But that seems like the hard way, jumping through too many hoops. Surely there must be somewhere in the (list of) plist files to tell the installer that it is OK to put 10.7 on this machine. I've tried a few places but w/o success. Perhaps someone is a good system hacker who knows how to do this? Many thanks,
tony

I agree-- that is a method that is often suggested. I apologize for doing the Yes, but.... routine; I have several other Macs, but I'd have to back one up (or clone it), clear the hard drive, install 10.7 on it, and then go through your suggestion. In principle it seems straightforward. I might have to resort to that. I had hoped that it would be possible for a more software-centric way, of convincing the installer that the machine was OK; Have I missed something here?
I've tried several suggested methods, and the closest so far is to get an installation from a bootable usb stick that looks like it's installing and then I get a circle with a line across it. No error messages.
the machine is a 1,1 original that now runs fine with 2 gigs memory, a core 2 duo (T7200) cpu. and 10.6.8.
I have tried removing the lines in the plist files that require the 3,1 machines, etc. but that has not helped.
If my time was worth more than 10 cents an hour I should have thrown the sucker away and bought a new one. I have an i5 Mini that screams. any more suggestions are most welcome.
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Will Macbook Pro Core 2 Duo perform well enough with Mainstage.

Hi there,
I normally keep each of my macs for about 4-5 years before upgrading, and its about that time for me. I currently have a 2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4GB Ram, and am leaning towards getting a new 27 inch imac for my home studio. My alternative is getting the 15 inch mac book pro retina, which I could still hook up to a large display at home, but also use for live performances.
My question is has anyone had any experience running Mainstage (2 or 3) on a Core 2 Duo, and does it run it well enough to process reverb and maybe chorus for one vocalist, and a couple of guitar effects for an acoustic guitar?
The reason I'm leaning towards the iMac, is because my configuration will likely be $400-600 less expensive than the macbook pro retina, the size of the screen, and the ease of not having to plugging a laptop into all my peripherals whenever I enter my studio. This will only be viable however, if my macbook pro is capable of handling mainstage duties.
A couple of notes, I'm aware I can always get a external monitor for a macbrook pro, but am interested to hear anyone elses experience with either an intel core 2 duo running Mainstage, or your experience using an iMac vs a Macbook pro for your home studio.
Thanks in advance!

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I suspect you would have a similar experience on your current hardware. Buy MainStage and try it out. Its only $30 or so and you can run it on any Mac you own so you really won't waste the money.
Good luck!

Can OS X Snow Leopard be installed on a MacBook Pro5, 5 with an Intel Core 2 Duo?

This question may already exist somewhere in the support community, but if it is there I have missed it. If not, then here it is for myself and those of this specific inquiry.
I have a MacBook Pro bought in mid-2009, Model MacBookPro5, 5, with an Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, and approximately 140 GB of HD space, which meets the stated requirements for Snow Leopard, Lion, Mountain Lion, and Mavericks. It is currently running OS X 10.5.8 Leopard, and I am trying to upgrade to Snow Leopard, or, if possible, Mavericks. I have the Snow Leopard CD, and have tried to install it. However, I get the error message "OS X Can't be installed on this computer". I have tried it from my current OS and by booting directly from the CD. I do not have any partitions, and have backed up and erased the existing Macintosh HD volume, but the error message continues.
Can anyone shed some light into what is the issue? If so, much appreciated in advance.

Remousamavi,
yes, the MacBookPro5,5 (13-inch Mid 2009 MacBook Pro) can run Snow Leopard. In fact, there were two varieties of model-specific grey installation DVDs for that model MacBook Pro: one had Leopard 10.5.7, and the other had Snow Leopard 10.6. (The “Apple disc ID” of the latter is 2Z691-6533-A.)
Do you have the white “upgrade” 10.6 Snow Leopard DVD, or the white “install” 10.6.3 Snow Leopard DVD? If you have the “upgrade” DVD, then it won’t let you install onto an empty partition; you’ll need to have Snow Leopard installed on your boot disk before it will install the upgrade.
Once you’ve got Snow Leopard installed and updated via Software Update to 10.6.8, you’ll be able to install Mavericks.

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