Worst customer experience ever.

we recently moved house, we tried to place an order to move our 2 phone lines and bt infinity - a complete farce and after several hours and many calls to BT they eventually managed to sort an order. Farce 1
we moved last week and should have had phone lines and broadband yesterday - BT unilaterally changed this to phone lines yesterday and broadband later this week - customer care from BT! Farce 2
engineer turned up yesterday, installed the 2 lines, 1 doesn;t work and BT seem to want to blame us - reckon its our handset - total bull as it works in the other line, line totally dead - its a wiring fault from BT but they can't get out till next week - very poor. Farce 3
Got very poor service today from Faults- still waiting for manager to phone me to explain the total lack of assistance and customer care from BT - who knows when the broadband will work - its a complete joke, wasted hours trying to get through to BT with no success. Has anybody got contact details for a UK customer services manager with a degree of authority who can sort this mess out immediately as we have elderly family members living 4 hours away who cannot contact us in an emergency. Farce 4.
I am a completely dissatiisfied customer who feels totally ignored by BT.
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Could this be the worst customer service ever???

Hi - not used the forum before, but have had the most unbelievable time trying to deal with BT. The simplest way to illustrate how abysmally terrible they have been is to paste below the letter of complaint (and the follow up 2 weeks later) that I have sent to BT. It is long, but shocking reading, and compelling if you have ever had experience of what BT ironically calls "Curstomer Service". No response yet, apart from a lame reply a few weeks later saying that they agree that the service was terrible, but that they probably won't do anything about it. As soon as the 8 weeks are up, I'm going to escalate this to http://www.ombudsman-services.org/
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ORIGINAL LETTER (5th NOVEMBER):
Dear British Telecom
I am afraid that I need to make a formal complaint about my treatment at the hands of BT over the past 6 weeks.
I received a MAC code from BT at the start of September which I tried to use to switch to another supplier. The supplier told me that when I had signed up to BT Infinity with you last year, this had made the line incompatible for the ADSL service that I was now requesting and the line needed to be downgraded. I originally called BT on 13th September to request that this be done, and spoke to a woman called Jackie. She agreed that it was remiss of BT not to have explained the implications of the switch to BT Infinity when I was offered the deal, and so agreed to arrange a manual downgrade of the line to avoid triggering a contract renewal. She told me that the work would be complete by 23rd September and that I would receive confirmation from BT that the work was to take place within 2 business days. No confirmation came through. I called again the following week and had 2 lengthy conversations, with one person telling me that no work was in progress, and another telling me that yes it was in progress. However, on 24th, the work had still not been done.
I called again on the morning of 24th for a very lengthy conversation (well over an hour), when after a lot of resistance, the person eventually explained that they didn’t know why the work had not been carried out, but it would definitely be carried out the next day. I asked her to assure me that if this was not done, then I would not be liable for any charges as a result of BT’s repeated failure to perform this work. She agreed to this.
I went on holiday the following day, and by the time I returned on 10th October, my other supplier, had still not managed to use the MAC code to switch to them, and it had now expired. It had been repeatedly rejected because there was an open order on the line.
I called again on 10th, and was told that they didn’t know why the work had not been completed, but it would be done by 14th. I was told I would have one month of broadband payments refunded, and that I would not need to make any further payments to BT, as it was BT’s fault that the work had not been done and I was still with you. I requested confirmation of this twice, to be sure that I had not misunderstood, and it was given twice in very clear terms.
Of course, the 14th came, and the supplier I wanted to switch to was still being told that there was an open order on my account. I called again on 14th, and this time was told that the work actually took place on 26th September, but that there was still an open order on my account. None of the many people I was passed to over the next couple of weeks was able to tell me what the order was for – one person said it was just an administrative item that needed to be closed. I spoke to many people who claimed that it was closed. Eventually someone agreed to do a little research and found some background processes running, which were eventually closed after several more difficult calls.
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This was dereliction of customer service and a breach of your duty of care on a significant scale (in addition to the failure to supply the service downgrade promised, and then the failure to communicate that it had been supplied until I called many times more). The calls caused me significant frustration and distress, and affected my mood for a long time after. The hours I had to spend on the phone in a vain attempt to make myself understood by your people caused me to miss deadlines at work, to appear sloppy, and to present myself in a less professional way than usual due to the vexation caused by all of this. I could never have imagined that getting a simple request fulfilled could require such a significant expenditure of time, effort and internal strength.
My complaint is not that there was an initial error with the work, but that this error was not explained, investigated or put right despite extremely lengthy efforts by myself to communicate with BT what needed to be done. I was treated with disrespect many times, as people told me they were putting me through to specific people they had spoken to, but then just put me through to a long phone queue; people promised me confirmation texts/emails and update calls which never came; different people gave completely conflicting stories about what was going on with my account; people repeatedly assured me that everything was fine and the other supplier would now be able to place the order, and the other supplier was not able to place the order. These were not one-off events – each of these situations happened several times. I can only describe your customer service as consistently abysmal.
Finally, last week, the supplier I want to switch to was able to place the order and arrange for the takeover of my line and broadband which will take place next week.
Sadly, though, that is not the end of my problems with BT. In the early hours of this morning, I received 3 emails asking me to view and pay my new bill. This came to over £140 (up to now I have been paying £17 per month), and included an incomprehensible set of charges for “Line Rental”, “Broadband and Calls” (which included BT Infinity Option 2, which I do not have), as well as separate listings for “BT Broadband Option 3”, which I also do not have. There are no words to describe the shock and disbelief I felt upon opening this.
Throughout the whole process, I have been very clear and explained multiple times that my purpose has been to be able to switch to another supplier, and that despite being offered new contracts and new deals many times, this was not what I wanted. I only wanted to be able to switch as soon as possible, and so wanted no renewal of any contract. I was assured several times that this is what would be achieved. The comments on my latest bill refer to a “contract start date”, and so if there is any new contract in place, this has not only been done without my consent, but in contravention of my repeatedly expressed wishes. Whether the explanation for this is gross incompetence or corruption, it is not acceptable, and must be cancelled immediately.
I called again today, but again found myself talking to apologetic people who couldn’t help who passed me on to long phone queues which led to more apologetic people who couldn’t help.
Given that this has been going on for so long and given that the many promises made to me by BT have been repeatedly broken and given that I had been clearly and explicitly assured that I would not have to make any further payments to BT, as my switch was in progress and only BT was obstructing it from taking place; I am no longer prepared to subject myself to this treatment. Rather than paying you this money and giving you more of my time, I would expect significant compensation from you for the many many hours I have put in to trying to address the consequences of BT’s failures and for the resultant stress, that has affected other areas of my life and which continues to do so.
Please respond to this letter within 14 days, confirming that you will be cancelling the latest bill and any contract that you may have put in place, and advising me what level of financial compensation you feel would adequately compensate me for what I have been put through by BT. Naturally, you will not be proposing any credit to my account, as I will hopefully no longer be a BT customer in a few days’ time, and the balance on the account should actually be zero.
I look forward to your prompt response.
Yours sincerely
FOLLOW UP LETTER (20th NOVEMBER):
Dear British Telecom
I submitted the letter below via the complaints section of your website on 5th November, asking for a response within 14 days. The automated response said that you would normally respond to complaints within 48 hours, but at very busy periods this may take up to 96 hours. However, 2 weeks has now passed and I have received no response from BT.
I tried calling BT again on 12th November, after receiving a new bill demand. On the automated system, I asked to speak about my bill. The automated voice said “about your bill. Is that right?”, I said yes, but it put me through to the BT Options team, who were not able to help and eventually transferred me to the billing team. I spoke to one lady and to her manager, and was told that she would investigate the huge and confusing charges on my bill, and the promise that had been made to me that I would not incur ANY further charges, and that she would get back to me on my mobile number within 48 hours, and that if she could not reach me, she would call back until she did. I asked whether this meant that my bill would be on hold until she spoke to me again, and she clearly confirmed this. Of course, no call ever came, so my bill is actually still on hold now, according to she clearly told me.
Then, in the early hours of 18th November, I received 2 emails: one telling me that another provider had requested to take over my broadband service and that service would stop from midday on that day (even though it had actually been transferred to another provider more than a week earlier), and another thanking me for taking out a new 12 month phone contract starting on 18th November. Of course, I never discussed any new contract from BT, apart from stating very clearly on several occasions during my many calls with you that I specifically didn’t want to enter into any new contracts.
I called again on 18th to speak to the complaints department. I spoke to Angela, who told me that the complaint that I had made on the phone on the 12th, and the complaint that I sent via your site 2 weeks ago, and which I copy below, had both been ‘escalated’ to a woman in India called Sharon, who was supposed to have called me back by 14th. Angela said she would look into this, get hold of the complaint I had sent and read it carefully, and would look to cancel my bill and offer me compensation. As has been a common occurrence in my dealings with BT, she apologised for the way things had been handled so far and assured me that she would now take ownership of my case and would definitely call me back at 2.30pm with an update, even if the situation was not fully resolved at that point. She even re-confirmed my mobile number, but of course, no call ever came.
And, incredibly, this morning, I received another email from BT, telling me that as I hadn’t paid my bill yet, a late-payment charge had been added to it, and threatening me with a downgrade of my credit status.
Again, I feel compelled to emphasise the great frustration and stress that this situation is causing me. This is utter neglect of your duty of customer care, and there is nobody in your confusing maze of customer support phone services who has been able to understand and address any of my issues I have had over this extremely difficult 2 months. Several people have promised that they would take ownership of my case, and would stay in contact with me, but none of them ever has. There seems to be no way to meaningfully communicate with anybody at your end, even while the bills, and charges, and threats and confusing emails are coming thick and fast. This is now proving to be equally true of your complaints procedure – my complaint has been completely ignored.
As I requested in my previous letter (below), please cancel my bill immediately and propose what level of financial compensation you feel would reasonably compensate me for the extreme frustration and stress that I have been subjected to in recent months, which has affected other areas of my life, including my work and family life, and the time and trouble I have taken to try to reach you to get this sorted out.
I include a copy of my original letter below, and am sending this to you both by email and in the post. I would like a positive response within 10 calendar days of the date of this letter, addressing all of the issues I am raising. Beyond this 10 day period, I may take further action, which may include legal action and/or publicity about this case.
Yours sincerely

Update - in case anyone is still interested - Here is my response to them:
30th December 2013 – Our Response
Thank you for your proposal, which we do not find acceptable.
Not only does it ignore the promise that we were made by telephone in October that we would not receive any more bills from BT, as the fact that we were still with you had already been down to your negligence for some time, but it also ignores the abysmal service that you have given us and the resultant stress and personal inconvenience that you have directly caused. An apology and a weak offer to refund the difference between what we pay now and what we paid you is very very far from even beginning to make up for this. Your wilfully ignoring a promise that you had made in October and that we very clearly drew your attention to in our original letter is yet another example of this, as are your over-complicated "final" bills, which are not easy to make any sense of.
You say that you will feed back to the agents involved about the terrible service that they have given. This will make no difference. If only one or two agents had been involved in delivering a terrible customer experience, then maybe this may have helped, but the fact that your service has been so consistently and unswervingly catastrophic in every single interaction (and you will be aware that there are very many posts on forums all over the Internet singling out BT for similarly incalculably bad service) suggests that the problem is in your processes, your training and your staggering lack of customer service ethic. If you truly wish to make changes, your actions will need to be far more fundamental than simply scape-goating a few individuals who are doing nothing different from anyone else you employ. I do not hold any individual or individuals responsible for what BT has done, but BT as a whole.
I intend to refer this case to Ombudsman Services: Communications, but would welcome a response from you before 2nd January if you have anything further to add.
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to install the full database? Why is it when I was asked if I wanted to install a new version of SQL Server 2008 or use a previous install, when I chose previous install, it said that an instance ID was missing, but there was no way to specify anything
else? It drove me crazy.
Why are there so many requirements and restrictions for the installation, when all I want to do is install Management Studio? It's intolerable and makes me never want to upgrade to 2008. Why is the process so terrible when Microsoft is supposed
to have the best UE people in the business?
You guys did a really terrible job on this one.

We have not tried to cluster 2012. We used to cluster; however, we were not prepared to manage the added complications.  The result was that our non-clustered servers had better uptime.  We used to joke about how many 8s we were
getting with our cluster. (To be fair, it did not help that we had a 7x24 SLA with only 8-5 staff.  When the cluster fails to failover, it can be a long time before it is fixed. We eventually got the kinks worked out.)
I understand the frustration. Excellence and stability can be achieved, but product lifecycles can punish those who seek such qualities. Product changes and shorter support lifecycles produce revenue for MS, so I don't see this getting better.
There will be a new OS, new SQL, and a new set of problems the next time around.
I expect things to get worse until we get pushed into the cloud.  A stable environment in the cloud is profitable for MS and clients.  I do not think this is the case now outside the cloud. Upgrading applications to remain
on supported products is very costly. And about the only business benefit of the upgrade is that the product remains on a supported platform and gets security updates. Sort of sound like that blackmail virus? I'd rather pay to have a
patch for new features and focus on application upgrades that improve business processes. Now bug fixes can require a major version change - which will have new bugs. I'm ranting because of some head pounding
I've done this week due to a hard coded limitation introduced in SQL 2012 by design. I'll replace the process, but I wonder how long it will work as my SQL related PSH often breaks with a new version of something.  I'll
stop now. Where'd my Prozac go? Next week is new week, life is good, everything will work,....
PS I actually enjoy the work and think MS products are decent; however, our environment does seem to be more frail and less stable due to MS product changes - even if the products are getting better. Better is worse - what an odd thought.
Randy in Marin

Worst customer experience I have ever had

For a start try googling Bt and watchdog and you will see how bad it is. My story begins with getting a line with Bt this was a horrendous business in the first place as our new house had no connection, so we had to pay to improve Bt's network by getting an intermittent line put in which took weeks ,almost a month, then a fault appeared about a year later the engineer came ,much head scratching as no dial tone ,but Internet worked, he fiddled around with our socket and eventually said the problem was external ,it worked for a few days then stopped and then we got another engineer to come fix it properly it worked for a year .Now exactly same thing has happened again an engineer came fiddled with our socket and said it was the building across the way that caused it ( what I can't get is. If it was the building over the way causing it why fiddle with socket in our building?). , it stopped working a week later same issue, in addition now when reporting the problem to a call centre in India was told that they could not arrange an engineer unless I agreed that if the fault was caused internally in our building then there would be a call out fee of £130 , I refused to acknowledge that I would pay this as the only people to have touched the lines in our house since connection have. Been your outsource partners ,hence how can they blame me for the fault?, I have carried out basics checks as suggested on the site . What worries me now is the following (are they trying to charge me for this second fault?) Fault number:VOLxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx, Date reported:25 May 2012,Date closed:30 May 2012 Says problem was external from house. But the next fault report online says problem is internal and within the house, if the fault is internal ,then it must have been caused by the engineers earlier visit as they are the only ones who have changed or done anything Fault number:VOLxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Date reported:7 June 2012Date closedpen I will be very very annoyed if this happens

Please edit out your fault reference numbers as this is a public forum. Thanks
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WORST CUSTOMER SUPPORT EVER EXPERIENCED........... WAY BELOW IN PROFESSIONAL ASPECT.

I am a new member of BB community and faced the worst experience today just for taking a internet setting for 9360 by calling a the customer support centre. Either it does not connect or put on hold for eternity. Surprised to have this experience. Is this going in a professional manner or not.............
Can anybody help me out in this..............

Just having the same issue there, which is real not fun, I have not tried to contact them, but looking at your experience I am not sure if I should.
My key comes from the back of a laptop o so I guess that would be a W7
OEM, and that could explain why you can't download a ISO from their website, would that also your case ?
Also could it be because we are attempting to get the ISO after the product became EOL ?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle
Maybe I will give a go with the customer care people and maybe I will get a right answer ;)
Will keep you posted

EE - Worst customer service ever

Ever since I've joined EE i've struggled with network connectivity both for calls and data. Numerous occasions i've contacted EE Customer Services to try and fix my issues and still they exists. The latest installment of frustration from EE came last week when I spent 90 minutes on the phone being passed around from department to department. Everyone who I have spoken to has been unable to help. 80% of my working day my phone is unable to make calls! Its got to the point where I am now paying for a service that I can not use. Over 15 days ago I logged a complaint with EE via the web service. I received an automated acknowledment that stated I should receive a response from someone in complaints. To this day I have not! I was also promised a call back from an escallation manager on the 27th October 2014 and we are now onto the next day and still no response. The customer service and communication that goes on at EE is appauling. I work for a company that is big on customer service and if I lacked in communication what EE employees do I would be out of a job. EE adverts are very mis leading, super lighting speeds and good coverage is really not the case. Im at the point now where I feel I am within my rights to cancel my contract because EE are not providing me with the service that they are contracted to. I've requested that this should be done without me paying an early settlement charge. However EE are not willing to do this. They would prefer to keep me unhappy. I would be grateful for any information on my rights to cancell the contract, compensation etc etc? ThanksCraig

EE stands for exsasperating experience!!!!!!!!I broke my phone a week ago and all i need from EE is my proof of purchase, I was told wenesday they would post it to me as the cant email it? Why ?Two days later still no proof, so went into watford EE shop to see if they can print it off.Oh no we cant do that because you bought the phone online.Phoned EE again and was told they can email it out , but only to the Watford EE shop.back i went watford EE were they seemed most surprised that this could be done. They gave me the email i then had to call EE on my mobile ( evidently the shop cant phone customer services?) they sent proof of purcahe . shop printed it out , happy boy.got home nad all they have printed is the email and not the attachments ie proof of purchase whih is what i need!!called EE to explain and i have to go back to shop. Why cant they just email it to me the customer. it is my contract!!SSo one week and still no phone Well done EE as soon as my contract expires im off to vodaphone.

Caseid 4670247907 worst customer support ever seen

caseid 4670247907
today was 15 day of my camplain log
i have been provided with replacenet of defective part 2 times but both them self required replacement.
this is the worst service support i have seen

The Apple Support COMMUNITIES is a user-operated apple-run page where users of the COMMUNITY help other people the best they can. Apple employees do not have anything to do with this page apart from own the servers and design it. If you want to speak to Apple then go to their Customer Support here: http://www.apple.com/uk/support/contact/
Remember, this isn't a customer support page, it's a community forum based on using Apple products. If you wish to refer to Apple employees then this is the wrong website.
Hope this helps.
- bi9scuit

Microsoft - Worst Customer Support ever! Where can I get a decent Microsoft customer support for Windows in the UK?

I have just tried to created the ISO of the operating system I am using for last 5 years, Windows 7 Ultimate. I remembered that on Microsoft website are quick links dedicated exactly for that purpose. However, when page loaded I've seen this:
The Page or File You Requested Could Not Be Provided
The resource you are looking for has been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
If you purchased your Microsoft Windows software from another source, but have the software key provided by Microsoft, you can download the Windows operating
system from the following website:
Windows Downloads
When I have clicked on the download link it took me to the webpage which seemed everything going for it. 3-step guide, including the product code and language. Brilliant! I thought, until after filling all the details I have clicked on 'Next-Verify
Product Key' than I faced a message:
Validating your product key. This may take several minutes. Do not refresh the page or select back, doing so will cancel
the request.
When finished, a message pop up: that the language provided is not compatible with the product key - try different language. Interesting, I am using this product last five years but is not compatible with English? I must have been a fairy then
to be able to make it work for all these years. Then it got better.
I have tried it again with a different message in the end:
System Error
We encountered a problem with the product key you provided. Please visit the Microsoft Support Contact Us page
for assistance. Refer to Message Code 715-123130.
So I have contacted Microsoft. Contacting Microsoft is an experience itself and half.
Being Microsoft certified, I used the link provided for IT Pros. I click the link provided and the page started loading..... and still loading now....
So I have decided to call the customer support as you would normally do with any other organisation. To actually get to the phone number, illogically placed, took me a few loops around MS website. Once called, I got to speak to very efficient lady on reception
who kindly switched me to the Technical Support. That's going well, I thought.
Once the connection has been made, I felt that MS technical support is based in submarine 3 miles under water in Japanese sea. All I could hear was the very familiar sound of water of modern Voice over IP connection dated back in 2003 and a male voice (but
by the sound of it it might have been a whale) asking me my name. Unsurprisingly, the connection was interrupted several times when I tried to describe my issue I am having, and eventually I was disconnected.
Still not put off, I made another attempt to contact MS customer service. This time I have been talking to a woman, seemed a little bit closer, maybe Bristol waters? Still in the submarine but not so deep. Also here I was asked my name AND surname; then
I have described my intentions and the difficulty I am having in succeeding it. The woman on the phone didn't get at all what I was saying. I had to literally spat out word by word what the problem is. (Luckily, I have many years of experience supporting IT
users over 60 years of age so it didn't take so long to explain it to her.) My thought just was, oh my God, how can she help if she didn't even understand the issue. Then the phone went completely dead for 10 mins. When it came back to life, I could hear clear
sound of fishing boat passing by until a voice, I assume the same woman, apologised for the delay. And now - the best is coming:
1) I was informed that the website is being tested, under construction and that doesn't work properly.
Comment: How can Microsoft, one of
leading organisation in technology, do testing of website 'live'? Quite clearly, that is BS.
2) I was advised to obtain the ISO image from 3rd Party website!!!! On question if she can give me the link to any 3rd party website the answer was NO.
Comment: Seriously, so here we are in 21st Century, dealing with almost the GOD in IT and the recommended solution is - to obtain help for the God's product from UNKNOWN 3rd Party. Brilliant! If this is the case, where Microsoft is exactly heading to???
3) She cannot tell me when the issue of non-working website will be sorted and I should go and buy the copy of Windows; than I will be able to do the ISO.
Comment: Well, that's what I call a professional advise from Microsoft representative. The fact that I do have the physical copy was totally ignored, the fact that I have been running the system for several years have been totally ignored the whole point
of this exercise (to cut down the time making ISO using Microsoft website) was totally ignored.
When I started asking questions to clarify what has been said I have been continuously interrupted.
To my question whether MS customer service representative have been trained to interrupt customers I have been told that I am talking over her. I asked her name, which she told me but I didn't catch and therefore I have asked if she could spell it. On that
point she hung up.
Well done Microsoft! And now I want to know just one reason why I should buy your products when the support, in case of problems, is not existent.
Does anyone know where I can get a decent customer service that can resolve my issue better than smudge it ?
Thank you.
Lenka Novakova
Microsoft Certified IT Professional Enterprise Administrator
Microsoft Certified Solutions Associate

Just having the same issue there, which is real not fun, I have not tried to contact them, but looking at your experience I am not sure if I should.
My key comes from the back of a laptop o so I guess that would be a W7
OEM, and that could explain why you can't download a ISO from their website, would that also your case ?
Also could it be because we are attempting to get the ISO after the product became EOL ?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle
Maybe I will give a go with the customer care people and maybe I will get a right answer ;)
Will keep you posted

X300 Order Nightmares, Worst Buying Experience Ever In My Entire Life!!

Hi,
So I am here writing to rant and also seeking assistance in this matter. I have been trying to purchase a X300 for myself for the past week and half only to have my order cancelled one after another. It started when I placed an order on 01/13/2009 and paid via my Paypal account. I had the Paypal account for over 8 years and have confirmed shipping address on file. On the 19th, I received an email telling me that my order was cancelled because Lenovo could not verify the funds. I called Lenovo immediately and the rep (A very rude guy with broken English) told me that my accoutn was identified as fraud... I was outragious at the time but immediately called Paypal. I was then told by Paypal that everthing was fine and that Lenovo still in fact has a pending hold authorization on the account. I called back Lenovo and was basically told that they don't care and if I am interested, place another order!
Since I really wanted the X300, I did place another order using my AMEX card. To make sure things will be okay, i called AMMEX to make sure that the transaction will go through if presented. I then called Lenovo to have them note the account to call me if there is an issues. After did all that, I received an email a day after saying the order was cancelled AGAIN!! Obviously, I immediately called back and asked to be transferred to a supervisor. The guy I end up spoken to then told me that everything has been cleared and you can now go place another order. I then did that only to find out that my account has been flagged and blocked!!! The guy must be on crack or something! I then called Lenovo (while trying very hard to be cool) and asked to be transferred to a supervisor again. After about 15 min hold time, a lady got on the phone and I immediately told her the whole story. The lady, who has a tone of "I don't give it a frack" told me that the credit card was declined and there was nothing they can do. I then told her that checked with Ammex and my account is in good standing with more than sufficient credit and and that THERE WAS NO TRANSACTION BEING PRESENTED BY LENOVO!! How would they know if the card is bad if they didn't even run it??!!! She then placed me on hold for another 10 minutes and then told me that the problem is happening because i was buying the laptop through the Contractor site (I do work for a company that has access to corporate discount). She told me that if i placed my order through the regular site it will go through for sure.
Okay, so here I am, being a sucker for the Thinkpad, placed another order through the regular lenovo site with a new user id (as the rep has suggested). That was yesterday... so guess what happend today??!! I got another email again today telling me the order is cancelled.
So to cut down the really long story short, I have been trying to get the X300 for a week and half. Being accused multiple time that my payment method are bad (They are not!!!!!!!) and had my account blocked. I had a total of 4 orders cancelled and I feel like I am jumping through hoops just so I can give them my money and beg the folks at Lenovo to give me a laptop... This whole experience has been extremely frustrating and insulting. Almost everyone I spoke to at the company have been non-helping and rude. What I can't get is that how a company like Lenovo, which apparantly don't know anything about customer service, can do business here is the US?
It is just sad that how Thinkpad has fallen to the hand of this company....
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Hi Mark,
Thank you so much for looking into this. So far I have called into customer service multiple times trying to get this resolved. I kept being transferred to a sales aget who keep telling me everything is fine now go ahead and placed another order. I even got one rep emailed me after the conversation asking me to put down his sales rep id so he can supposedly "track" my order. The order I placed on the 13th (2D9FRE), paid via Paypal was cancelled because it was said to be a fraudulent account. I then confirmed with Paypal that there is nothing wrong with the account and Lenovo still has a hold on the funds (this authorization hold was not cancelled until I called Paypal myself again on the 22nd). I then tried to order the X300 with my AMMEX cards just to keep on getting them cancelled as I've decribed on the 1st post. (Order # 2D9WYM, 2D9XD6, 2DA18R) I kept being told that the card is bad when it is not, AMMEX confirmed that there has been no authorization request from Lenovo too. I work as a consultant for a large banking/investment firm and needed the X300 due to its features and portability. I never imagined that I'd be treated like a fraudster, and despite that I've made multiple attempt to clear this.
This has been one really really frustrating experience as you can imagine. Again i appreciate you look into this and hopefully fix the issues (or at least, clear my name) for me.
Richard
Message Edited by Shihx79 on 01-23-2009 11:19 AM

Retina macbook pro, worst purchase experience ever

I bought my Macbook pro at the beginning of July. Specs were 2.6ghz processor, 512 drive with 16 gb of ram. First mac I ever purchased. Sold my windows laptop which had similar specs and had worked a charm but the enticement of the new pro was too tempting.
It took about 3 weeks for it to reach me.. not bad...
<That is where the nightmare began.>
Before I use a computer, before i trust it i like to stress test it. On a PC this is easy you just run pcmark for a few days if no fail, everything is great.
On a mac you run hardware test.. Ok... so I run it. Low and behold.. it freezes after a bit... Hmmm.. not much on the net about that... Try it again and it passed for 14 hours... ok..
That evening.. Go to use one of my hard drive.. The OS claims it failed.. Un repairable, copy what files you can... But.. 50% of the files are missing.
Ok.. well Im in good shape. I run 4 hard drives one is a raid 1 array. 90% of my files were backed up.
<This is where the monster comes in>
Suspicious I take my mac in to be looked at by a genius. The genius is astute and says.. well It passes all our tests if this keeps occuring we will replace it since it is brand new.
I go home.. And start using it... It eats another hard drive and fails the hardware test again. Ok.. I still have my raid array. I call them. Please replace this POS. Sure they say.. no problem its just going to take three weeks...
Three weeks.. But I work with my computer it is my life line.. Well it seems to work fine except it has assainated another hard drive.. But it couldnt take down the raid.. It tried, but the raid rebuilt itself. Safe.. I thought.
Fast forward one day. It killed my raid disk,
This computer, this peice of aluminum garbage is toxic. It is trying to destroy my life and I have to life with this thing for 3 weeks while I try desperately to juggle my hard drives reformatting and only leaving one online in hopes it will last a day, maybe two.
This computer is ruining my life.. Time to order a new one from the mac store? 7 days.. Time for me who waited a month only to get a destructive non-functional tool? 3 weeks.
Thank you apple for ruining my life with your assembled in china non-QC controlled data assassin.

There are some good points here.. thank you for the assessments ha ha...
Unfortunately I cannot go back to a Windows PC. It was a long drawn out decision to go to Mac and the reason why was.. Efficency. Even with lesser hardware the Mac offeres a smoother operator experience. And once you learn to navigate it it is quite user friendly.
It is true I am a Mac newbie but by no means am I a computer newbie. Macs have a huge amount in common with a windows PC and any/all operations I do I researched first. So - yes my initial drives were NTFS, but I installed an appropriate third party plug in to allow my Mac to read them, I then formatted the Raid array to a nonencrypted Journal format and one external to exfat just in case.
It is not a problem with mountain lion or mac usage. This notebook is a destroyer. A informational anarchist, firebombing storehouses of information. It kills drives swiftly and efficiently and if you try to repair them it garbles them.
One poster mentioned it was sheer folly to switch over to a new computer system without keeping my old one as backup. This seems par for the course because you shodl always have a back up however there were two reasons I did not do so
1) I got a good offer on my PC, tech changes so quick that the value drops monthly, not annually, to wait was to lose money and the macbook was expensive so wanted to cover some of the cost
2) I have NEVER had this computing experience before. I have had computers that acted funny, blue screened or otherwise failed and there was always the potential that such could corrupt a hardrive or a portion of the data if it was writing to the drive but I coudl not anticiapte actually been locked in a room with a cat that almost seems intent on eviscerating my data. The experience feels like I am literally under assualt. I also would not have expected that Apple, having shipped me a dysfunctional unit (Don't they run hardware test before shipping? Seems criminal to have this kind of QC failure) would make me wait three weeks to replace it. How is that justified when they ship new units in 1 week? I foudn the same experience previaled when I ordered my Macbook, because I ordered it earlier and they later updated shipping dates to 1-2 weeks form 3-4 weeks people who ordered after me were getting their computers before me even though I paid for priority shipping. It seems to me that their policies are more bent on making new customers happy rather then ensuring people who already purchased are happy.
That said with "generic" mac items its being great. My service with iphones and ipads have been excellent when they can just substituted things. It seems to be the customization process that causes the difficulties.

Worst Customer Service Ever!!!!!

I bought an Air Conditioner online which kept tripping every few days. I was under the impression that it is Best Buy and the return policy should be at least 30 days if not more. I called them after 3 weeks and they refuse to take it back even if the product did not function properly. I offered to pay the restocking fee even though they sold me defective product and they refused to do that. They said that i can have it repaired but i can not return. I just don't want that product as I am not happy with its perfomance.
I think if they kept treating their customers this way, they will close soon.
Is there a CEO or someone with authority reading this and can help or should I just say goodbuy to my $600 and never ever do business with Best Buy (or should i say Worst Buy?)

Hello msurani-
I am sorry to hear that the air conditioner you purchased from us was not working correctly and that when you chose to attempt a return, you found out you were beyond our return and exchange period.
Just like you, Best Buy does expect the manufacturer to provide us with a quality product to sell to our customers. We stand behind that product generally for 15 days under our Return & Exchange Promise found here and on your invoice. We do allow 30 days for My Best Buy Elite members and 45 days for My Best Buy Elite Plus members to do a return or exchange. We would not be able to honor your request for a return on this product.
Beyond that period, you would potentially be covered under the manufacturer warranty, which generally will only allow for repairs or potential replacement. If this unit is not working correctly, I would recommend contacting the manufacturer about potential service options under their warranty.
I apologize for any disappointment that this may cause you.
Sincerely,
Bill|Senior Social Media Specialist | Best Buy® Corporate
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Worst customer experience ever.

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