Worth the price?

I'm looking for a new laptop, and really like apple computers, but can't ignore the fact that the apple macbook pros cost basically double that of laptops by other companies of equivalent specs. Is it really worth it? I can buy 2 HP/Toshiba/Gateway/Compaq/Dell laptops for the price of one apple, and I'm not sure I can justify the price difference. Can anyone make a convincing argument?

Dell XPS 1730 $3,353
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Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7800 (2.6GHz/800Mhz FSB, 4MB Cache)
Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate Edition - English
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Adobe® Reader 8.1.1 - English
Intel Centrino Core Duo Processor
Apple $3,349.00
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2GB 667 DDR2 - 2x1GB SO-DIMMs
200GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 17-inch High-Resolution Widescreen Display
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    -HDSLR footage (native H.264-based streams)
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    $500 on Newegg
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    NEWEGG PRICE
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    (2) WD Caviar Black WD1501FASS 1.5TB in RAID 0
    $220 on Newegg
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    Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB
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    NEWEGG PRICE
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    $160 on Newegg
    PSU
    CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2
    $240 on Newegg
    UPS
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    NEWEGG PRICE
    CPU COOLING
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    THERMAL COMPOUND
    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
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    CASE COOLING
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    NEWEGG PRICE
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    $130 on Newegg
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    AFT XM-35U BLACK USB 2.0 Kiosk Card Reader
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    KEYBOARD
    Logitech Comfort Wave 450 Black 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Ergonomic Keyboard
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