Would this ruin my battery if I did this ?
I'm getting my new mac this monday .. Well would it ruin my battery if I just turned it on without charging it when I open the box and everything ? Then charged it ?
Using it right out of the box is not... even remotely... harmful to your battery. There is no difference using the partially charged battery that is supplied and using your computer a year from now with a partially charged battery.
The reason for the initial calibration is to make sure your computer and battery are in "sync" so to speak. As you know, notebooks will tell you the percentage of charge and how much time you have remaining when you are running on battery. In order to calculate this properly, the computer needs to know the state of the battery at a full charge down to a complete discharge. With that info, it can accurately provide you with the time remaining while using it on battery.
You can certainly use it when you first get it. It is preferred to allow it to fully charge first so you can get an accurate reading. As ypw indicated, just use it while it is plugged in so that initial full charge can happen. After that just follow the rest of the calibration instructions (which basically involve using the machine on battery until it is fully discharged... but again... follow the instructions).
So... zero harm to your battery if you don't charge it first... but you may not get accurate charge level readings until you do the initial calibration. Also... when the battery isn't calibrated, the computer may "think" it has more time than it actually does. Normally, your computer will go to "sleep" when the battery reaches a certain low level. If your computer thinks it has say 30% power left... but it really only has maybe 2%... it could shut off (due to running out of power) instead of sleeping.
This is why it's recommended to calibrate your battery the first time you use it. It is not because you will damage your battery.
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So I just did the initial conditioning for my battery. I let it charge, kept it fully charged for about 3 hours and then let it drain . . . . .here is my problem, I left my usb cooling pad plugged in. When it went to sleep the pad kept going and drained it to 0!! It was at empty for several hours. Now fully charged I am only showing about 3:45 on the battery clock. I don't recall my last Macbooks numbers exactly, but in this situation (wifi on, word on and safari) I could have sworn it was more like 4:45.
Can you totally ruin a battery beyond repair by letting it go to zero on the first charge and then leaving it that way for a few hours?
KalelKalel, these batteries take a few days to settle down, so don't take too much notice of the indicated charge life for a while. Its likely that the 4 hours+ time you first saw was inaccurate itself, too. These things change so much depending on what you are doing with the computer that they can never be accurately relaied.
With these batteries the "ruining by running dead flat" thing is an all or nothing situation. They contain circuitry that is designed to prevent a defective battery from doing damage to your charging system etc. This prevents charging altogether. The fact that your battery is still chargable indicates that this circuitary did not get tripped. Your battery will be fine.
Don't unnecessarily run the battery down more than you would in normal use. Lithium batteries have a finite number of charge cycles. There is no need to calibrate them al that often once you have done it once. Every couple of months thereafter is more than enough.
Don't worry. Enjoy your MacBook.
Cheers
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Alo, my Macbook pro i7 2 GHz Intel Core i7 (early 2011) will not go to sleep with the power source connected. only enters sleep mode when running on battery. Someone did this happen, and it could solve?
There is no output from that command line? Maybe the pid changed.
I'll repeat what I am trying to find out...
1. You do a pmset -g on the terminal.
2. The output from that pmset should have a line that says "sleep 0 (imposed by n)" where n is some number.
3. The ps ax | grep n is supposed to display what the process associated with n is.
It's the output from step 3 that should indicate what is causing you not to sleep.
But speaking of sleep, that's where I am going. -
I have just got my iPad2 and am very pleased with it. I have a question regarding the monthly (recommended) battery full charge. Should I let the battery completely die down to nothing at all before I plug in to recharge or would this complete drain be bad for my iPad?
It's not bad for it - on this page www.apple.com/batteries/ipad.html it says :
For proper reporting of the battery’s state of charge, be sure to go through at least one charge cycle per month (charging the battery to 100% and then completely running it down). -
Will charging my iPhone 4S with iPad 4th generation 12w power adapter, ruin my battery?
Situation: my iPhone 4S is 4 months old, have had ZERO issues with battery life, until yesterday...
I just bought the newest iPad last week (retina display) and yesterday I plugged the iPhone 4s usb cable into the iPad 12w power adapter, to charge my 4s. Now my iPhone 4S is losing 1% every 4-5 minutes (not exaggerating, in fact it may be draining even faster than that). This is occurring even though all programs are closed and the phone is locked (screen is black)... Normally my battery will lose 5-10% while I sleep, last night it was dead within 5 hours !
I'm pretty disappointed becuz it seems I have ruined the battery. Can anyone think of any other reason for this to be happening?
In an attempt to rule out any software issues or potential malware, I backed up my 4s, put it in recovery mode and proceeded with a factory restore. Following that I restored from backup. To my dismay the freefall battery drainage is continuing :(
What are my options (if any) apart from heading over to apple store tomorrow to get bent over a barrel? Any help would be appreciated ....
Many thanks and happy holidays !Okay it's been 15 minutes and battery is still at 100%.
I have ton of apps and music as well as photos etc... I'm using 58Gb. So getting my stuff back on is a top priority. The only thing I did on the 24th (day the problem started) that I can think of, was register with talkatone (googles VoIP App). I'm thinking I delete that App from iTunes before restoring from backup?
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If i keep my computer plugged in all day will that ruin the battery???
if i keep my computer plugged in all day will that ruin the battery???
Absolutely yes, it will ruin it.
*However if you don’t plan on using it for a few hours, turn it OFF (plugged in or otherwise) ..*You don’t want your Macbook both always plugged in AND in sleep mode (When portable devices are charging and in the on or sleep position, the current that is drawn through the device is called the parasitic load and will alter the dynamics of charge cycle. Battery manufacturers advise against parasitic loading because it induces mini-cycles.)
http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html
"Apple does not recommend leaving your portable plugged in all the time."
Keeping batteries connected to a charger ensures that periodic "top-ups" do very minor but continuous damage to individual cells, hence Apples recommendation above: “Apple does not recommend leaving your portable plugged in all the time”, …this is because “Li-ion degrades fastest at high state-of-charge”.
This is also the same reason new Apple notebooks are packaged with 50% charges and not 100%.
Keep it plugged in when near a socket so you keep the charging cycles down on your LiPo (lithium polymer) cells / battery, but not plugged in all the time. When not being used for several hours, turn it off.
General rule to remember of Lithium batteries is:
Never drain them LOW & dont always/often store them HIGH
While cycle count is commonly seen to be the “miles” on your Lithium Ion pack cell in your Macbook, which they are, this distinction is not a fine line at all, and it is a big misconception to “count charge cycles”
*A person who has, for example, 300 charge cycles on their battery and is recharging at say 50-60% remaining of a 100% charge has better battery usage and care than another person who has 300 charge cycles at say 15% remaining on a 100% charge.
DoD (depth of discharge) is far more important on the wear and tear on your Macbook battery than any mere charge cycle count. *There is no set “mile” or wear from a charge cycle in general OR in specific. As such, contrary to popular conception, counting cycles is not conclusive whatsoever, rather the amount of deep DoD on an averaged scale of its use and charging conditions.
(as a very rough analogy would be 20,000 hard miles put on a car vs. 80,000 good miles being something similar)
*Contrary to some myths out there, there is protection circuitry in your Macbook and therefore you cannot overcharge it when plugged in and already fully charged
LiPo (lithium polymer, same as in your Macbook) batteries do not need conditioning. However...
A lot of battery experts call the use of Lithium cells the "80% Rule" ...meaning use 80% of the charge or so, then recharge them for longer overall life.
Never let your Macbook go into shutdown and safe mode from loss of power, you can corrupt files that way, and the batteries do not like it.
The only quantified abuse seen to Lithium cells are instances when often the cells are repeatedly drained very low…. key word being "often"
Contrary to what some might say, Lithium batteries have an "ideal" break in period. First ten cycles or so, don't discharge down past 40% of the battery's capacity. Same way you don’t take a new car out and speed and rev the engine hard first 100 or so miles.
Proper treatment is still important. Just because LiPo batteries don’t need conditioning in general, does NOT mean they dont have an ideal use / recharge environment. Anything can be abused even if it doesn’t need conditioning.
From Apple on batteries:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1446
http://www.apple.com/batteries/
Storing your MacBook
If you are going to store your MacBook away for an extended period of time, keep it in a cool location (room temperature roughly 22° C or about 72° F). Make certain you have at least a 50% charge on the internal battery of your Macbook if you plan on storing it away for a few months; recharge your battery to 50% or so every six months roughly if being stored away. If you live in a humid environment, keep your Macbook stored in its zippered case to prevent infiltration of humidity on the internals of your Macbook which could lead to corrosion.
Considerations:
Your battery is subject to chemical aging even if not in use. A Lithium battery is aging as soon as its made, regardless.
In a perfect (although impractical) situation, your lithium battery is best idealized swinging back and forth between 20 and 85% SOC (state of charge) roughly.
Further still how you discharge the battery is far more important than how it is either charged or stored short term, and more important long term that cycle counts.
Ultimately counting charge cycles is of little importance. Abuse in discharging (foremost), charging, and storing the battery and how it affects battery chemistry is important and not the ‘odometer’ reading, or cycle counts on the battery.
Everything boils down to battery chemistry long term, and not an arbitrary number, or cycle count.
Keep your macbook plugged in when near a socket since in the near end of long-term life, this is beneficial to the battery.
Peace -
I was burning a slideshow from iphoto and went to idvd and it burned ok and finished and said it was ok, but when I played it in the tv it did not play the whole project
why would this be. cheers vicHi
Strange - But needs lot's of more info to make it possibly to suggest any reason. Me no mind reader at all.
• What Video Codec was used
• What Video editor
• How did You get material into iDVD
• What did You select in iDVD
frame rate
video format
encoding quality
burn speed (set down ?)
• Brand of DVD used
• Type of DVD used
And all vital info You can think relevant.
Yours Bengt W -
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Why did you give your granddaughter the password?
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How to Get a Refund from the App Store
http://gizmodo.com/5886683/how-to-get-a-refund-from-the-app-store
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http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/qa-canceling-a-digital-subscripti on/
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shloimypt wrote:
All my excel files were converted to pdf. Why would this happen and how do i stop it from doing so?
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