Wrong business systems are displayed

Hello all,
i have met a problem in XI/PI. We are using XI/PI 7.11 (dual stack) und one SLD for test- and product-systems. The SLD runs on SAP Solution Manager System (7.10). On XI test-system i have tried to add another business systeme in integration builder for a scenario. But only the business systems for product system are listed. And in XI product-system only the business systemes for test system are listed. Could someone telle, what is that problem and how to fix that? thx.
best regards,
Fanglin

Hello Hari,
i have tried to sign in SLD (web application), but i got the following error:
how can I fix at first the problem? thx.
best regards,
Fanglin

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