Wrong DVD burning speed with DR4-A

The DVD burning speed of my DR4-A appears to be wrong, it should be 4x but is 3.1x. Why is this happening?
(I have updated the firmware from 2.17 to 2.30 and the DMA mode is enabled)

I HIGHLY recommend DVDDecrypter for what you are trying to accomplish. It is free. http://www.dvddecrypter.com
You can use it to copy files to your hard disk, then use DVDShrink to compress the files for burning onto your DVD. Then you can burn with Nero, or with DVDShrink.
These 2 free programs together have worked extremely well for me and they are actually far superior to any of the programs you pay big bucks for.

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B. read on
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• iDVD is part of the boxed version of iLife'11 and can only be bought outside Apple as on Amazon and e-bay
• DVD Studio pro - Part of FinalCut Studio Pro bundle - this to has expired and can only be bought second handed. (High price and tough learning Curve - but best ever done.)
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• Burn - only free alternative I know of on internet. Very simple - Just for doing a plain Video-DVD
Burn http://www.digital-digest.com/software/Burn.html
only You can buy from Apple is
• FinalCut Pro-X which also can burn to DVD but without any nice themes.
AppleMan1958
You can also buy Compressor from Apple for $50 US. It will also create DVD and BluRay but without the nice themes.
Yours Bengt W

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20" Intel Imac Mac OS X
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Just because your drive says it is capable of 8X doesn't mean it will burn at 8X.
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Here is the explination on the different DVD's.
http://www.videohelp.com/dvd
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When it comes to DVD Players, Formats, and Burners, of the hundreds of different manufactures, All are opting to be the Industry Standard, and it appears they insert there little chinks that almost force users to use there products exclusively.
There is always a backlash from these marketing ploys.
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First check in your particular profiler on EXACTLY what type(FORMAT) of DISK's your burner will burn.
Next please do not just randomly go out and buy a spool of 30 50 or 100 disc's because they are on sale.
There is a HUGE difference in the type format disc's you buy
There is also a HUGE difference in the BRAND you choose, some are junk.
There is also a HUGE Difference in the SPEED of the media you choose.
If any one or a combination of any of the 3 mentioned above can cause burn error's or no burn at all or spit the disk out.
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Many of the Media Manufactures are becomming aware that many of the Apple Burners are having trouble with there Media. Maxell has just come out with a brand new one that is. Maxell 16X DVD-R.
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http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa4.htm
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I am sure that most users are not aware of the big difference in the Media.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
In a nutshell there are several things that can, and do affect the quality and speed of your project.
The Media you purchase.
The Burning Software you use.
The burner you have in your machine.
Any one or combination of the above can effect the project.
There are so many Formats, and differences in the formats that the casual user is not aware of the differences.
http://www.videohelp.com/dvd
The sad thing is that there are no step by step instruction and information to explain the in's and out's of copying DVD's in
Audio.
Data.
Video.
You will find that upwards of 95% of all burning issues are caused by using cheap or poor quality media or using the improper format of disc's.
There are so many restrictions placed on the Firmware of the Optical Drives used there in, is the problem.
That is the reason I recommend using DVD-R media and I also recommend the use of the newer 16X media that will support burning at 1X through 16X.
I also recommend letting the software do the work in Automatic rather then fiddleing with the burning speed.
So as you can see, the use of a high quality media and the correct format will make a very big difference. The guide I supplied above will give you the right direction. I personally use Maxell 16X DVD-R the reason I use this media, it is the highest quality, and the speed will allow you to use this media in older Optical Drives as well as the newest. This media or one like it will support just about all burners.
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After installation, I burned a DVD of previously recorded material that I had also burned on the old drive.
Much to my disgust, the new 8x drive using the same 8x rated media burned at the same old 2x speed!
I burn with Toast 7. Out of curiosity I clicked on RECORDER>DISK INFO and found out the following about my blank DVDs (HP dvd-r 8x):
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