WRT160N - Two Xbox's - Nat changes from strict to Moderate

Alright so can someone please explain to me step by step by factory defualts on the router config how to make both nats open so i can actually connect to people on xbox , please help me

Here are the instructions. HTH

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hey i have a iphone 4s 64gb but and using the internet share .. how can i change the nat type from strict to open please help me

You will have to configure that with your router. Type your router's IP address in the search/domain bar and allow port forwarding.
What is requiring you to have an open NAT? That issue is usually for gaming consoles, etc.

I am trying to change my NAT type from strict to Open so i can play with my friends but i dont know how to do it on my Apple Airport. Help please?!?!

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Unfortunately, the AirPorts are not listed as Xbox Live-compatible routers ... so there is no guarantee doing this will get Open NAT status for Xbox Live!
The following web blog does a great job explaining the NAT issues with Xbox Live! Basically what it comes down to is that although you can get an Internet connection for the Xbox with the AirPorts, you may not get the necessary NAT setting (Moderate or Open) for the Xbox Live! on-line game that you want to play. As such, you basically have two options: 1) Create a DMZ (Apple calls this a Default Host) for the XBox or 2) Configure the AirPort for Port mapping to open the required ports to allow Xbox Live! access ... or 3) Use a compatible router.
Option 1 - Create a DMZ
AirPort Utility > Select the AirPort > Manual Setup > Internet > NAT
Enable default host at: <Enter the IP Address for the XBox>
Option 2 - Configure Port Mapping
The following ports must be available for Xbox Live to operate correctly:
UDP 88
UDP 3074
TCP 3074
To setup port mapping on an 802.11n AirPort use the AirPort Utility, in Manual Setup, to make these settings:
1. Reserve a DHCP-provided IP address for the Xbox 360.
AirPort Utility > Select the AirPort > Manual Setup > Internet > DHCP tab
Click the "+" (Add) button to enter DHCP Reservations.
Description: <enter the desired description of the host device>
Reserve address by: MAC Address
Click Continue.
MAC Address: <Enter the MAC hardware address of the Xbox or the MAC address of the wireless depending on how you connect the XBox to the network.>
IPv4 Address: <enter the desired Private IP address>
Click Done.
2. Setup Port Mapping on the AirPort.
AirPort Utility > Select the AirPort > Manual Setup > Internet > NAT > Configure Port Mappings
Click the "+" (Add) button
Service: <choose the appropriate service from the Service pop-up menu>
Public UDP Port(s): 88, 3074
Public TCP Port(s): 3074
Private IP Address: <enter the DHCP Reserved IP address for the Xbox you created earlier>
Private UDP Port(s): 88, 3074
Private TCP Port(s): 3074
Click "Continue"

Xbox Live NAT set to strict

Hi im new to this forum and have read other forums to try to change my NAT setting to open but none of them seem to work, maybe because their whole network isnt set up like ours is.
Heres what its like,
2 xboxs (one wired, one wireless)
3 laptops (one wired)
1 desktop wireless
Cisco e1000
Hopefully getting a more personalized question would help immensely.
Thanks in advance

Wrong forum, post question here for Cisco Home Products:
http://homecommunity.cisco.com/community/?category.id=linksys

Xbox Live NAT set to strict (E1000)

Hi im new to this forum and have read other forums to try to change my NAT setting to open but none of them seem to work, maybe because their whole network isnt set up like ours is.
Heres what its like,
2 xboxs (one wired, one wireless)
3 laptops (one wired)
1 desktop wireless
Cisco e1000
Hopefully getting a more personalized question would help immensely.
Thanks in advance

Connect the computer to the router with the Ethernet cable.
Open the setup page of the router.
Change the MTU size to 1365. Save the settings.
Go to Security tab and uncheck the box ' Filter anonymous Internet request'.
Go to the administration tab and disable the UPnP.
Go to wireless tab and click on Advanced wireless settings. Change the beacon interval to 75, RTS threshold to 2307, fragmentation threshold to 2306.
Go to Application and gaming tab and click on port triggering. You may need to Trigger the ports 53, 88, 3074.
Who is your Internet service provider?
Open the setup page of the router and check the Internet IP address on the status page. Make sure that it is a public IP address.

How do I change my NAT from "strict" so I can properly use Xbox LIVE?

I am able to connect to Xbox LIVE, but the Xbox (360) reports my NAT as "strict", which means I don't have a good connection and can't even participate in some things like tournaments on Project Gotham Racing 3.
I've spent hours researching this on the net. No luck yet, but here's what I've tried so far:
One post (http://forums.xbox.com/8109385/PrintPost.aspx) said there are three ways to fix my problem: (1) Use UPnp (universal plug 'n' play, the equivalent of which on the Airport Express seems to be NAT Port Mapping Protocol), (2) Set up a DMZ (demilitarized zone, which is called a Default Host by the Airport Express), and (3) Port Mapping.
First, turning on NAT Port Mapping Protocol doesn't have an effect on my Xbox-reported NAT rating of "strict".
Second, I tried setting up a Default Host at 10.0.1.253 then assigning my Xbox an IP of 10.0.1.253. I assigned this IP only through the Xbox's network settings. It seems like I was supposed to assign the IP to the Xbox using the Airport Admin Utility, but if there's a way of doing so, I don't see it. Also within the Xbox's network settings, I set the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and the gateway to 10.0.1.1 (my Airport Expres). When I tested the connection to Xbox LIVE, I failed at the DNS stage. So I manually set the DNS info to the primary and secondary DNS specified by my ISP (and shown in the Internet tab of Airport Admin Utility). I retested my connection to Xbox LIVE. Now I passed the DNS test but failed the next test, called MTU. I looked up how to set the MTU and did so according to these instructions from the Apple Support pages: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303192. I tried MTU values of 1400, 1500, 1362 (recommended minimum specified on Xbox), and 3000 but was unable to pass the MTU test on the Xbox.
I tried port mapping as explained on the Microsoft Xbox forums (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908874) and further explained here: http://www.jakeludington.com/xbox/20060103xbox_live_connectionproblems.html. I tried to do this with the Port Mapping tab in Airport Admin Utility, but I wasn't able to specify all of the information given in that last link, so I don't know if I did it right.
Hours of work and no success, but this ought to be possible, right? Help?
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I tried to do this with the Port Mapping tab in Airport Admin Utility, but I wasn't able to specify all of the information given in that last link, so I don't know if I did it right.
As you already know, XBox Live requires three ports to communicate: UDP 88, UDP 3074, & TCP 3074. The AirPort Express Base Station doesn't distinguish between UDP & TCP for port mapping, so you will only need to map one port for the UDP/TCP 3074 values.
Try the following...
Port Mapping tab
- Click "Add"
- Public Port: 88
- Private Address: 10.0.1.253
- Private Port: 88
- Click "Ok"
- Click "Add"
- Public Port: 3074
- Private Address: 10.0.1.253
- Private Port: 3074
- Click "Ok"

Opening ports for my xbox live NAT type

I need help on how to open the ports needed to successfully pull my NAT setting from "strict" to "open" on XBox Live. Those of you here that have it, probably know what Im talking about.
The ports I need to open are the following:
UDP 88
UDP 3074
TCP 3074
Ive tried already, but it didnt work. I think I did something wrong.
Thanks

Hi AEX,
First thing you have to make sure is that, you have to assign a static ip address on XBOX like 192.168.1.10, with subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, and gateway 192.168.1.1
Now Forward the ports you have to this static ip address, which you assign to your XBOX
Also make sure you are running latest firmware on your linksys router. You can check from www.linksys.com/download , If it is not latest, download and update to latest version.

WRT160N V3 Two Xbox 360 consoles Xbox live NAT Resolution

Has anyone found a solution to the NAT problems involving two xbox 360s connecting to xbox live using the WRT160N V3 at the same time? I always get one that reads Open NAT (usually the 1st one to sign in) and one that gets the dreaded Strict NAT type. I have read of various solutions yet many of them do not resolve the issue. Any help is greatly appreciated!!

You can try the below mentioned settings and check.
Open an Internet Explorer browser page on your wired computer(desktop).In the address bar type - 192.168.1.1 and press Enter...Leave Username blank & in Password use admin in lower case...
On the set-up tab change the MTU Size to 1365 and click Save Settings...
Click on "Administration" tab and disable the option UPnP and click Save Settings...
Click on "Applications and Gaming" tab and then click on "Port Range Forwarding" subtab...
1) On the first line in Application box type in ABC, in the start box type in 53 and End box type in 3074, leave the protocol as both and under ip address type in 192.168.1.20 and check the enable box, click Save Settings once done...
2) Once you return to the set up page click on the Security tab and uncheck Block Anonymous Internet Requests and click on Save Settings...
3)Click on the Status tab and take note of DNS1 and DNS2 Addresses...
4) Goto the XBox Network Settings and IP Address Settings and select manual IP Settings and assign the following on your Xbox
IP Address :- 192.168.1.20, Subnet Mask :- 255.255.255.0, Default Gateway :- 192.168.1.1...
5) Also assign the DNS Addresses on the Xbox
Use DNS1 and DNS2 Addresses you took note off of the router status tab as Primary DNS & Secondary DNS for the xbox...
6) Turn off your modem, router, and Xbox...Wait for a minute...
7) Plug the modem power first, wait for another minute and plug the router power cable, wait another minute and turn on the Xbox and test it...it will connect...
IP Address: 192.168.X.[last part of ip in your device] e.g. if static ip given to the device was 192.168.X.10 get the last part and put that to the empty box.

WRT160N V2 - Connecting TWO Xbox 360's with OPEN NAT...a nightmare. :(

Need to run two Xbox 360's on a WRT160N V2 both with open NAT.
This must be possible...somehow.
I've tried a few times through the linksys support chat (which seems to be gone now?) to get this working properly but always fails. I've got my http://192.168.1.1/ open, so please if anyone knows how this works that'd be just awesome.
Both 360's are connected via wire. We want to be able to play the same games at the same time in the same party while both having an open NAT. Right now only one of us can have an open NAT while the other has a Moderate or Strict. We have plenty of speed, but that stupid NAT makes it nearly impossible for us to connect to games together. Then even when we DO connect to a server/lobby it takes forever for that lobby to fill up with other players as they can't connect to US. Painfully annoying.
I DID do a search of this very forum and found a thread or two, but they are very long and I am having a hard time filtering what is correct or not. Too many people saying different things with no reponses as to whether or not their solution worked. I'm still reading through them, I'm not a technician in any sense and don't want to mess it up more than it already seems to be. I am capable of reading/following instructions, so if anyone knows I'll give you all my "One Free Internet" coupons.

You can try this link and it will help you in setting up your XBOX with your Router. And for your 2nd XBOX Enable DMZ and assign a Static IP to your XBOX.

Trying to change NAT type to open from strict

I'm trying to change my NAT type on my PS3 from strict to open. My router is a WRT120N and I'm using cable internet. Please help me, and sort of dumb it down so I can understand what you're saying. Thanks a ton!!
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i think strict NAT type is a double-NAT setup. it would really depend on your modem. what's the brand and model of your modem? does it have routing capabilities? what IP address does it give off?

Trying to change my NAT type from Open to Strict or Moderate.

My NAT type is open but I can't get any games. I told my friend and he said try and change my NAT type from Open to Strict, and that it might help in joining games. I can join CoD4 games, but not MW2 or MW3 games. Can anyone help me? I am playing on XBOX360 and I use wireless internet.

A known issue with Linksys routers is the NAT Type 3 or anything related to dropping of Internet connectivity during play time. Network Address Translation (NAT) is the ability of a router or firewall to translate a public IP address to a private IP address and vice versa. It adds security to the network by keeping the private IP addresses hidden from the outside world.
Here is the link, which will you in resolving the concern: http://www6.nohold.net/Cisco2/ukp.aspx?vw=1&docid=2902de6218ed4dc1a4c595595ca1f60a_Resolving_NAT_Typ...

Trying to change NAT connection from moderate NAT connection to an open NAT connection for XBOX LIVE

Hi, I have a Linksys Wireless-N Broadband Router/WRT160Nv2 and I have been trying to change my NAT connection from a moderate NAT connection to a open NAT connection for my Xbox Live on my Xbox 360. I can sign into my Xbox Live account but it is working on a moderate NAT connection. I have already enabled the UPnP and put in the proper port numbers. After doing that I signed into my Xbox Live on my Xbox 360 and tested my Xbox Live connection and still it says that I a moderate NAT connection. I do not know what elso to do and I would greatly appreciate step by step help from anybody who knows what they are doing. PLEASE HELP ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!!
Thank you

A known issue with Linksys routers is the NAT Type 3 or anything related to dropping of Internet connectivity during play time. Network Address Translation (NAT) is the ability of a router or firewall to translate a public IP address to a private IP address and vice versa. It adds security to the network by keeping the private IP addresses hidden from the outside world.
Here is the link, which will you in resolving the concern: http://www6.nohold.net/Cisco2/ukp.aspx?vw=1&docid=2902de6218ed4dc1a4c595595ca1f60a_Resolving_NAT_Typ...

Time Capsule, hardwired to TWO xbox 360's, and NAT issues.

Hello All,
I currently have an older Linksys WRT54G (version 1.0 LOL) which has been working fine for years. I recently bought my son an XBOX 360 for Christmas and we went through the issues of NAT and Call of Duty, and basically I have become quite knowledgeable on this topic. I recently added a SECOND XBOX 360, as it became apparent that one would not do with three boys in the house (Plus COD is a blast on line).
So I created a second Live Account and got the two xbox's running online stably with NAT wide open on both. This required abandoning the Linksys Firmware and installing "Tomato" on the WRT54G. That works GREAT. No modifications were required for the rest of the network including...
Macbook by Wifi, Minimac Hardwired (ya ya wifi works but hardwire is better), Airport Express (used only to stream music to stereo in family room - from ANY PC/MAC running Itunes...Itunes is VERY NICE), HP printer with network adapter, 5 other PC's including a mix of VISTA, XP, XP Pro, and multiple IPHONES, A Palm Tungsten C, WII, DS and of course the two hard wired XBOXs. NO Problems. The Tomato configuration only required the modifications for the XBOXs specifically as the rest of the network settings were not change after the firmware update.
What am I interested in? I'd like to upgrade to a Time Capsule for several reasons. One Newer wifi, faster, two frequencies, backup space for growing Mac branch of our network, and as the internet sharing router. AND to be able to access the TC from the internet for file access anywhere! LOVE THAT FEATURE. This requires the TC to be the first device after the cable modem as far as I can tell at this point. (any input on this specific feature would be great).
So I want to configure the TC with the input from the Cable modem as the main distribution of the internet. Then from the other NETWORK ports connect to my 20 port router for the rest of the house, as well as to the other items currently connected at the site of the current LinkSys Router (Mac Mini, Sony TV).
Also I need to maintain the current XBOX set up with (as well as Wii) with full open NAT on both XBOXs.
My question: Anyone here currently using the TC for hardwired connectivity for an XBOX with XBOX live running with open NAT for TWO XBOXs?
The issues with NAT and TWO XBOXs is that you cannot simply use PORT FORWARDing or PORT Triggering to make sure that the traffic goes to the correct xbox. The XBOX uses specific communication ports and the ROUTER needs to keep the traffic flowing properly or you get disconnected or never get open NAT (must have for XBOX live and internet gaming). There are many write ups on using Port Forwarding for one XBOX and setting the second one in the DMZ, but this does not work all the time.
The "Tomato" firmware on the LINKSYS allows fooling the router into giving a 'pseudo static' ip address to the XBOX's by doing MAC address based reservation of an IP number and then letting the DHCP give the xbox an IP address. The MAC address based reservation makes sure that the XBOX always gets the same IP address which for some GD reason must be in order for the traffic to be routed to the correct device. (you can of course use the same MAC address reservation for any device on the network).
Second Question: For those using the TC AND a second WiFi Router to do WIRELESS connection to the XBOX - which device do you have configured as the main INTERNET sharing router? I have read hear what appears to state that the TC is the main router and the other WiFi the secondary. Thus the ROUTING is still being done by the TC and the other wifi device is being used simply as a WiFi Access point/switch. If this is the case would the firmware on the TC allow the proper routing for TWO XBOXs on the network?
Thank you,
Mike

The ports are 53, 80, 88, and 3074. Since you are trying to make two Xbox consoles use those ports and you are trying to connect to a server, what you need to do is to use Port Range Triggering. You can't use Port Range Forwarding since it will only set those ports into listening mode to the IP address you set it. So if you use Port Range Forwarding it will only be open/available to one console(the one using the IP address).
You need to use PORT RANGE TRIGGERING. Disable Port Range Forwarding and DMZ. You need to enable UPnP as well if your Linksys router have this option (other model doesn't have this option but it is said to be enabled in default settings according to their tech support).
To solve the lag problem set your MTU size to 1364. This settings will work even if you have one or multiple consoles running behind the router.

WRT54GL - two xboxes - moderates nat... sometimes

Modem: RCA DHG525
Router: WRT54GL
ISP: Cogeco (Ontario Canada)
I have two xboxes connected to my router (wired). Both xboxes have unique static IPs. xbox1 is in the DMZ. xbox2 has ports 53, 80 and 3074 forwarded for TCP and UDP. Block Anonymous WAN Requests is disabled. MTU is set to auto. uPnP is disabled.
I just ran the connection test on xbox2 and got an open nat. I left xbox2 on but signed out of live. I went to xbox1 and ran the connection test and received a moderate nat.
I powered off both xboxs and reran the connection tests with only one xbox powered on at a time. Both xbox1 and xbox2 report moderate nat.
After having both xboxes powered off for a while I ran the connection test on xbox2 again and the nat is open. I powered off xbox2 and ran the connection test on xbox1 and again the nat is moderate.
Again I left both xboxes powered off for a while and ran the connection test on xbox1 first. The nat is moderate. I powered off xbox1 and ran the test on xbox2 and the nat is open. I've run the test on xbox1 before and received an open nat though.
Is this a timing thing? Is something released if the xboxes are both powered off long enough?
Is there a way I can get both xboxes to have an open nat consistantly? I don't need to have them both online at the same time. I'd just like to have an open nat whether I'm playing on xbox1 or xbox2.
Thanks,
imcndn
Solved!
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ok... I tried that out:
Set MTU to 1364
enabled uPnP
disabled port forwarding
disabled dmz
enabled port triggering:
53 TCP
80 TPC
3074 TCP
53 UDP
88 UDP
3074 UDP
Both xboxes powered on:
xbox2 has an open nat
xbox1 has an open nat
That did it... thanks for all the help! Awesome support from the forums!
imcndn

Xbox NAT problems - two xbox in same home

I have two xbox, one 360 and the other one xbox one, the 360 is wireless, the xbox one is wired connected, the xbox one always starts with moderate and when both consoles are on at the same time, the xbox one acts very slow. I need someone to tell me which way will be best to set this up network wise, i want the ports to be distributed to both xbox when they are connected. If the 360 is on first then it takes over the udp 3074 port and the xbox one can no longer use it. One post here said to create a different distribution of ip's under the my network then connect one of the xbox on the other network, for example create one to go from 1 - 125 and i just picked 140 and add the ports by forwarding them to the 140, but when i try doing that it tells me that the wireless one, which is using ip in between 1 -125 is already using it. any help please, i appreciated.

Just enable UPnP and let the router do the dirty work. When having more than one type of game console in a home on one connection, this is usually the recommended way of doing things.
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WRT160N - Two Xbox's - Nat changes from strict to Moderate

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