WSUS and click-to-run

Is there a reason Microsoft chose to subvert WSUS by building a separate update system in Office 2013 click-to-run versions?
Ken Kemp Eddy County, NM IT

What I understand is that it automatically applies updates with no input from the user or IT. That sounds like a potential problem to me for the same reason we use WSUS rather than setting all our computers to automatically install every
update Microsoft puts out.
Yep... which is why the CTR versions of Office are generally only SKU-ed for consumers and small businesses.
Enterprise SKUs provide MSI installers and support patching via WSUS.
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I have downloaded FF and clicked on Run, and nothing at all happens, never see the wizard.

I read the answers to the other people's questions on this - run as administrator - and that also didn't work.

I assume you downloaded directly from Mozilla, and saved it to a non-temporary location such as Downloads or Desktop? https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/fx/#desktop
In case the installer crashed, can you use the Windows Task Manager to terminate it and try again? To do that:
* Ctrl+Alt+Esc to launch
* Check the Applications tab first
* Check the Processes tab next
I'm not sure how the installer is identified in Processes, but it probably matches the file name under which you saved the installer.

I can't download firefox. When I click on run, I get a window saying that the author is unknown. When I click on run in the new window, another window says the file is corrupt. What can I do about this?

I want to have firefox as my default browser. As this is a new laptop, I hasve to download firefox. As per the instructions, I click on "run" to complete the download, but instead of completing the download, a window appears which says that the author is unknown. If I ignore the window and click on run, I get another window which says the file is corrupt and I can't finish the download and have firefox as my browser.
I have windows 7 and explorer is the default browser and I want to change to firefox, but so far am being prevented from doing so. How can I successfully download firefox?

It is possible that your anti-virus software is corrupting the downloaded files or otherwise interfering with downloading files by Firefox.
Try to disable the real-time (live) scanning of files in your anti-virus software temporarily to see if that makes downloading work.
See also:
* http://kb.mozillazine.org/Unable_to_save_or_download_files

Trail Downloading Visio Professional 2013 64 bit version - Use with Office 365 Home Premium - Errro Office Click to Run 15 Extensibility Compenent

Attempting to load Trial version of Microsoft Visio Professional 2013 (64 bit version) to laptop - (system type: 64 bit operating system).
Office 365 Home Premium
Successfully downloaded Visio Trial and burned to disc - when attempting to run and install message :
"Setup Error:
We can't install the 64-bit version of Office because we found the following 32-bit programs on your PC:
Office 15 Click-to-Run Extensibility Component
Please uninstall all 32-bit Office Programs, then retry installing 64-bt Office. If you want to install 32-bit Office instated, please run the 32-bit setup."
Have viewed program files:
- there is no file "Office 15 Click-to-run Extensibility Component" to remove.
- there are no 32 bit files to remove.
What do I need to do to install Visio Trail?
Thanks

Hi,
Which Office 365 Home Premium editions did you install? 32bit or 64bit? Office 2013 doesn’t support running side-by-side installations of 64-bit and 32-bit versions of Office. For example, you can’t install Office 2010 32-bit side-by-side with Visio
2013 64-bit. This applies to both Windows Installer (MSI) and Click-to-Run installations of Office 2013. If you try to do this, you'll receive the error message and be prevented from continuing:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/access-help/why-cant-i-install-both-the-32-bit-and-64-bit-versions-of-office-2013-HA103523746.aspx
To resolve your issue you can install Office 365 Home Premium 64 bit + Visio Professional 2013 64 bit version.
More reference:
How to choose to Office 365 Home Premium 64 bit:
http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57567050-285/how-to-install-the-64-bit-version-of-office-365/
Please Note: Since the web site is not hosted by Microsoft, the link may change without notice. Microsoft does not guarantee the accuracy of this information.
Get started quickly with the Visio 2013 trial
http://blogs.office.com/2013/10/07/get-started-quickly-with-the-visio-2013-trial/
Here is a similar issue, we also could refer to:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/5e77322d-268b-47c2-a0ea-346891fd8559/cant-install-visio?forum=visiogeneral
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George Zhao
TechNet Community Support

Office 2013 click to run: configure specific options like in /admin setup

Hi,
In an Office 2013 click-to-run install, how can we set f.e. the Exchange server, disable Junk mail protection (we have a seperate system for that), disable RSS, username to be used in Outlook (%username%) etc?
We have that when using the office 2013 setup.exe /admin but not in the click to run.
I don't find these options in the config.xml reference: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc179195%28v=office.15%29.aspx
Please advise.
J.
Jan Hoedt

Hi Jan,
Click-To-Run version of Office 2013 does not contain the Office Configuration Tool (OCT). And the
Config.xml file mentioned above is used to customize Windows Installer-based Office 2013 installations, not for Click-To-Run version of Office.
To configure these specific options for Click-To-Run version of Office 2013, you can use
Group Policy Administrative Template files (ADMX, ADML). The policy settings apply to both Windows Installer-based (MSI) and Click-to-Run version of Office 2013.
Download link for the Group Policy Administrative Template files (ADMX, ADML):
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35554
Here is the reference you'll need:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc178992(v=office.15).aspx
Regards,
Ethan Hua
TechNet Community Support
It's recommended to download and install
Configuration Analyzer Tool (OffCAT), which is developed by Microsoft Support teams. Once the tool is installed, you can run it at any time to scan for hundreds of known issues in Office
programs.

Office Click-to-Run and WSUS

Is there a reason Microsoft chose to subvert WSUS by building a separate update system in Office 2013 click-to-run versions?

Hi,
This is due to the new technology that used to deploy Office. Click-to-Run is a Microsoft streaming and virtualization technology, these streaming and virtualization capabilities are based on technologies in Microsoft Application Virtualization (App-V).
Users don't have to download or install updates manually, the Click-to-Run product seamlessly updates itself in the background.
WSUS is not used in a click-to-run deployment. Office is actually downloaded from cloud (O365 Content Delivery Network (CDN)).
Regards,
Ethan Hua
TechNet Community Support
It's recommended to download and install
Configuration Analyzer Tool (OffCAT), which is developed by Microsoft Support teams. Once the tool is installed, you can run it at any time to scan for hundreds of known issues in Office
programs.

Office 2013 Home and Business - Click to Run wipes out the Office files from the Programs folder

We are having an issue with a number of clients running Office 2013 H&B in a domain environment, after a click to run update.
It appears the update is ran in the background and after a reboot, the program files short of a few .DLL's are completely missing. Office still shows as installed through the control panel.
We have to use the office removal tool and reinstall program completely. System restore does not fix the issue.
These are Dell Latitude and the version of Office shipped with the machines as an OEM version. There was nothing pushed from the Dell update utility for Office.
They are running Avast AV and it is not affecting all users presently.
I've been on hold and getting transferred around Microsoft's support lines all day as Microsoft support can't seem to figure out which department should troubleshoot the issue.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

I am doing some research. And I might involve someone who is more familiar with this kind of issue to deal with this problem.
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I am having problems with migration assistant (windows pc to Mac 2011) When I get to the 'Quit other applications' box and click continue, nothing happens. There are no other apps running - any ideas, please?

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Thanks for your suggestions. Have managed to get Migration Assistant working but now have a new problem, i.e. where does it save the transferred files?!! Searched a few forums and it seems it saves it under your old username, or suchlike. Anyway I tried logging on as a new user using my old user name but there were only a handful of files there, couldn't locate the majority of stuff from my old laptop. Anyway I don't intend to go through any more hoops with MA - will just save the important stuff to an external drive and transfer it that way. Not impressed with MA at all. I thought it was supposed to be a user-friendly tool to simplify the transfer from pc to Mac - not my experience, I'm afraid!

Trying to download a FIrefox and when I click on run it asks what program I want to use to open with so I cant finish install

I've been using FF for years and lately have been having issues with internet access. Worked through the troubleshooting suggestions and got it working, but last night FF couldn't connect to internet after something updated and my Norton anti virus was gone too and I couldn't fix it. The last resort was to delete my ff and download new, so I did. When I clicked on run I got a pop up asking what program I wanted to open it with and of course nothing worked. By then it was 1:30 am so I quit. Today I'm having the same issue and I'm at the end of my rope trying to figure out what to do. I'm so disgusted and can't stand it.

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Help!!!!! I need to get iphoto lib off of hd which is running really slowly, and clicks rather more loudly than usual, how do i do this, im even on my iphone asking this!

Help!!!!! I need to get iphoto lib off of hd which is running really slowly, and clicks rather more loudly than usual, how do i do this, im even on my iphone asking this! Computer also runs inly marginally faster in safe boot mode! Could the apple store help?

It certainly sounds like your harddrive is dying. I would Immediately backup your harddrive to an external USB or Firewire harddrive Before doing anything else. It just may save your data in time before you lose it all.
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Need assistance creating applications with superseedence to uninstall Office 2010, Lync 2010 and then install Office 365 click to run 2013

We are getting ready in a few months to uninstall our locally installed Office 2010 and head to the cloud with Office 365 2013. I have created applications to uninstall Office 2010 and Lync 2010 and then added them to the supersedence tab for Office 365
office 2013 click to run with appv5.
When deploying the office 365 2013 application it does not uninstall office 2010 or lync 2010 with the supersedence. I am able to manually uninstall Office 2010 and Lync 2010 with the command lines I am using in the applications.
The application uninstall for Office 2010 is:
The application uninstall is an exe so I created an application, created a deployment type with the location of our Office 2010 admin point, installation program and uninstall program are set with the same line as I have tried to deploy it separately and
also as a supersedence in the Office 365 application setup.exe /uninstall ProPlus /config "\\sccmserver\share\Office2010\ProPlus.ww\silentuninstallconfig.xml. The silentuninstallconfig.xml was created from the original config.xml file and edited
to these settings:<Configuration Product="ProPlus">
<Display Level="none" CompletionNotice="NO" SuppressModal="yes" AcceptEula="yes" />
<Setting Id="Reboot" Value="Never" />
<Setting Id="SETUP_REBOOT" Value="NEVER" />
<OptionState Id="ProductFiles" State="Local" Children="force" />
</Configuration>
The detection method is the folder path to see that office 14 exists. When I deploy this the machines finish with success showing this exists, but does not uninstall Office 2010.
running the command line manually mapped to this location on a machine uninstalls office 2010 without issue.
Lync 2010 uninstall:
Lync is an exe so I am using the LyncSetup.exe /silent /uninstall. The application is in the supersedence tab for Office 365 2013. This never installs. If I create a softare distribution and deploy it on its own it uninstalls without issue.
We are going to use Lync 2013 with our office 365 2013 installation so we need to uninstall this. The detection method for lync is file system folder and the Microsoft lync folder for detection.
MS Office 15 (Office 365) was created with the click to run tool. I can install this with the application I created using the appv5 package created with the click to run tool. The issue is we need Office 2010 and Lync 2010 uninstalled first.
Having both versions of Office installed in test has caused issues where Office 15 365 will not list in add and remove programs and cannot be uninstalled even with the fix it article to remove office 2013.
I have looked at many articles and so far it is not working for us. Any help appreciated to get us to the cloud.
Thanks,
Brit

The applications I have for uninstall of office 2010 and Lync 2010 for some reason do not uninstall. Manually testing the command lines they do. The detection method seems to be hanging things up. On the lync uninstall detection method I have
the setting type of file system, type folder, path c:\program files\ folder name Microsoft Lync.
I highly recommend using something other than a file/folder "exists" detection method. Installers are constantly leaving things behind due to environmental inconsistencies. It may leave files/folders behind with a schedule to delete files on next reboot.
These things are unpredictable and very hard to use. I just use the "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall" Registry location. There you can actually key off the "Product Version" DWORD as well which gives you an even more accurate method
to determine if the application you are trying to deploy (or expect to exist) is truly there. This, of course, being if you are not using an MSI. If you have MSI technology ALWAYS use the product code unless the person writing the MSI chooses to use the same
product code for every version release of their product. In which case, Use the registry method.
As far as getting the supersedence and everything working. You need to start from the basics. Create Applications for all of the apps you want to remove. Make sure they install and uninstall properly (seems like overkill but it isn't that hard). Once you
have working install/uninstall applications then you can easily apply supersedence to your new applications with a setting of Uninstall on the superseded apps you should have no problem getting rid of them. I have done this for numerous things.
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AppV5 Excel/Office ProPlus 2013 Click to Run Sequencing (and include some native Addins)

Hello,
We need two native Excel 2013 Addins: PowerPivot and PowerView. Since Office 2010 is installed locally on all client machines I would like to virtualize Excel 2013 (Click to Run) with these two addins. Licensing is no issue because an
Office 365 subscription will be purchased.
So, I have successfully sequenced Excel 2013 with AppV 5.0 SP1 via the Office Deployment Tool. It all seems too easy:
First download sources (setup.exe /download configuration.xml)
Second configure sources (setup.exe <xml file>)
Last create the AppV package (setup.exe /packager <xml> <path to save .appv package>)
My Configuration.xml file looks like this:
<Configuration>
<Add SourcePath="\\serverr\share" OfficeClientEdition="32" >
<Product ID="ExcelRetail">
<Language ID="en-us" />
</Product>
</Add>
<Display Level="None" AcceptEULA="TRUE" />
<Logging Name="Office2013Setup.txt" Path="%temp%" />
<Property Name="AUTOACTIVATE" Value="1" />
</Configuration>
But I end up with an Excel 2013 AppV package that:
Doesn’t include the addins (no wonder because I didn’t sequenced it myself).
All the 'first run wizards' popup at launch (Default File Type question & Welcome to your new Office). Normally I disable these with OCT for physical installations, or configure them while sequencing.
Is there a way to disable the first run wizards in the “setup.exe /configure” step? And can I add Excel Addins during package creation? Or need I script this within the DeploymentConfig.xml/UserConfig.xml with a .reg import for example?
Thanks,
Ben

Hello,
We need two native Excel 2013 Addins: PowerPivot and PowerView. Since Office 2010 is installed locally on all client machines I would like to virtualize Excel 2013 (Click to Run) with these two addins. Licensing is no issue because an
Office 365 subscription will be purchased.
So, I have successfully sequenced Excel 2013 with AppV 5.0 SP1 via the Office Deployment Tool. It all seems too easy:
First download sources (setup.exe /download configuration.xml)
Second configure sources (setup.exe <xml file>)
Last create the AppV package (setup.exe /packager <xml> <path to save .appv package>)
My Configuration.xml file looks like this:
<Configuration>
<Add SourcePath="\\serverr\share" OfficeClientEdition="32" >
<Product ID="ExcelRetail">
<Language ID="en-us" />
</Product>
</Add>
<Display Level="None" AcceptEULA="TRUE" />
<Logging Name="Office2013Setup.txt" Path="%temp%" />
<Property Name="AUTOACTIVATE" Value="1" />
</Configuration>
But I end up with an Excel 2013 AppV package that:
Doesn’t include the addins (no wonder because I didn’t sequenced it myself).
All the 'first run wizards' popup at launch (Default File Type question & Welcome to your new Office). Normally I disable these with OCT for physical installations, or configure them while sequencing.
Is there a way to disable the first run wizards in the “setup.exe /configure” step? And can I add Excel Addins during package creation? Or need I script this within the DeploymentConfig.xml/UserConfig.xml with a .reg import for example?
Thanks,
Ben
You said you used the Office Toolkit? In this you can set Disable Opt-in Wizard on first run.
Was this used when installing on the sequencing machine?
Alternatively you could attempt to launch excel during the sequencing phase and go through those menu's to ensure they don't launch on first launch of the virtual Excel. I believe that shouldn't be a problem since.
For the Add-in's, it seems like you know they weren't included or connected in any way, that's likely the issue with those.
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MBSA and Office 2013 click to run

Hello,
Does anybody know if the click-to-run version of Office 2013 is scan by the MBSA?
This page tells us which products but not specifically if CTR is covered:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-US/security/cc184924.aspx
Thanks,
Carl
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Hello,
I would use Process Monitor to understand what happens and to see why Outlook isn't seeing the plugin, and why the wizard is crashing
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Add-in support on Office 365 click-to-run installed and Office 365 App-V installed

Hi,
We have to make a decision on deploying Office 365 via on premise click-to-run, with the Office Deployment tool, or via App-V. But the way add-ins are supported on Office 365 / Office 2013 on App-V 5.0 SP2 is not clear to me.
Some Technet sites mention that for add-in support on an App-V based office, the add-ins should be sequenced and put together in a connection group with the Office App-V package (created by the Office Deployment tool)
On
http://blogs.technet.com/b/office_resource_kit/archive/2013/12/02/announcing-app-v-5-0-sp2-support-for-office-2013-volume-licensing-editions.aspx however, I read in the table “Full-featured Office with integration with other applications,
add-ins, and Windows”
When testing with third party applications and Visual Studio installed in a classical installer way, the add-ins are added to the App-V installed Office, but we are sometimes experiencing error messages in word / excel with the add-ins
enabled.
Should add-ins be sequenced to be used on an App-V based Office? Or in other words, is there a difference in add-in support between the click-to-run version and the App-V version of Office for non-virtualized add-ins?

Hi,
There is a new feature for Office 365 Pro Plus, it allow administrators the ability to exclude App element. We need to use Office 2013 Click-to-Run (Build 15.0.4615.1001) and logon as administrator.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/odsupport/archive/2014/05/14/new-application-selection-feature-offered-with-the-may-2014-update-of-office-2013-click-to-run.aspx
Then, we'd better follow this link and repeat the steps one by one:
http://lyncme.co.uk/office365/office365-proplus-click-to-run-lets-stop-onedrive-for-business-from-being-installed/
Please Note: Since the web site is not hosted by Microsoft, the link may change without notice. Microsoft does
not guarantee the accuracy of this information.
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Firefox will not fully load and run anymore just out of the blue when I click to run it it just sits and does not respond I have totally uninstalled and reinstalled this many times and it still does the same thing why would it stop working?

When I booted my computer up from cold and click firefox to run it sat there and tryed to load instead it sits there and does the nor responding thing. I have totally uninstalled the program a few times and re installed a new download and the same thing happen. I can not run firefox any longer and i have run it everyday for a very long time. This seems to be the only program with an issue.

None of the stuff in " http://kb.mozillazine.org/Locked_or_damaged_places.sqlite " helps. I have tried and tried and I have even wipe the computer clean still didn't help. I got the same problem as he/she has got in the first posted. Can add some web pages but not all the web pages I want.. I should have never updated to 3.6.13... That's when it all started for me, from that version..... Now Version 3.6.14 is out, I was hoping the version 3.6.14 might would fix the problem wrong again....
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