X-Fi Fatal1ty & SB Inspire 5700 - no digital

I am having a big problem getting the X-Fi's digital out to work with my Creative Inspire 5. DIGITAL speakers. The speakers are OK as they respond to their own self test on their small remote which sends a sound to each of the 5 speakers & the sub-woofer in turn.
The X-Fi speaker setup will not show any more than 2. speakers in the digital mode. This is NOT CORRECT. If I proceed in digital speaker setup, I only get sound from the front 3 speakers!
This quote from Creative's known issues shows that the digital output from the X-Fi card should work in 5. using the multijack digital output!
QUOTE...........
4. KNOWN ISSUE
4. Creative Inspire 5. Digital 5700 and DeskTop Theater
DTT3500 Digital DIN Input
Only front speaker outputs may be audible when multichannel audio
signals are sent to Creative Inspire 5. Digital 5700 or DeskTop Theater
DTT3500 via Digital DIN. The speakers may be in their default 2-channel
mode. For multichannel speaker output, select the FourPoint/5. DIN
bypass mode on these speakers.
I assume the "bypass mode" means the "Fourpoint 5. DIN" position on the "Effects" switch on the Inspire's console.
I have set the X-Fi multijack to "digital output".
I have completely uninstalled all Creative drivers etc. Rebooted in "safe mode" and run Driver Cleaner Pro, to be sure! then done a clean install.
I cannot get the 5. speaker setup to work under Digital and am not at all a happy man!! The Audigy 2 that I had in before worked perfectly!
Using the analogue speaker outputs is NOT an option. The Inspire only has stereo ANALOGUE inputs and I want to use the analogue X-Fi outputs for the 3 jacks on my 5. earphones ..... without grovelling around behind the PC every time I change from speaker to phones!!
I had the analogue 5. phones and 5. digital speakers working perfectly in the Audigy 2 setup!
I seem to have spent ?45+ for a markedly inferior setup!!!

Just read through the post
X FI and No 5. DIGITAL surround out.
from this board sometime ago! 6 pages of furious people!
Why did my Audigy 2 work providing digital 5. sound out to the Inspire 5700 and the Xfi will not?
Even Creative's own known issues say 5. should be available from the multijack output!
As it stands the new card is an expensi've step backwards and is absolutely useless to me!
I am seriously thinking of demanding a refund on my Inspire digital speakers as well as the useless sound card!
Even my rotten old SB li've "5." worked with the Inspire 5700 speakers!

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