X230: what is expected temperature during heavy CPU load?

Hello all,
after few seconds of heavy CPU usage on my x230 termal sensors show temperature slightly above 100 degrees celsius. I think it's way to high and probably should call the service to replace the fan, clean the heatsink etc, but wanted to make sure.
For comparison, my previous machine (x201) did not ever go above 85 degrees during similar tasks.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
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Welcome morgwai
Probably your heatsink is clogged with dusk or the thermal paste between your heatsink and Intel CPU dried up, causing poor heat transfer. Even in full load, the CPU temp should not exceed 90C.
I suggest that you contact Tech Support to replace the fan.
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