X58 Pro a Lemon? IOH cooling insufficient.

Is the X58 Pro motherboard a Lemon?  The x58 cooling solution on the board is inadequate by far.  Very soon, MSI will introduce a replacement board called the X58 Pro-E which has a different heat sync on the Dr. MOS and X58 chipset.  They will no doubt ignore all of us with the Lemon.  Which is totally unacceptable and enough to make me not want buy any MSI products ever in the future!
The only solution to cooling your IOH on the X58 Pro is to replace the useless MSI heat sync or run a small fast fan on to them. 
Here are the possibilities;
1) with stock cooler IOH is 72C at idle
2) Running a 40mm 4000RPM fan ($12.00) directly onto the chips set from above the chipset, the IOH drops to 55C.
3) Replacing the sock solution with 2 Thermalright HR-05-IFX (23.00 each) the IOH drops to 38C*
*note: In my Antec Sonata case the HR-05-IFX are directly in the path of the 120mm fan exhaust that is mounted to the hard drive cage. This fan, draws air through the bottom of the case, over the hard drives and out over the motherboard.  This is a Noctuna 120M fan that is running at 900 RMP (Ultra Quiet Mode).  This fan blows directly onto the HR-05-IFX  and helps dissipate the heat build up on the fins of the HR-05-IFX.  With this fan turned off, the IOH temp starts out at 39C but quickly climbs into the 45C range with heavy use.
Using the 3rd solution, I can go up to a 190 MHz  base CPU clock rate which makes the 2.6GHz i970 a  3.8Ghz CPU.  The max I can go with memory is 1500MHz using OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB)  rated at 1600 (OCZ3G1600LV6GK). Anything above that the board is not stable.  At a base clock of 210 MHz, the board hangs-up in boot.  It goes through the BIOS POS T and the screen says "WAIT..." and nothing happens.
I'm using BIOS 7.3.  see https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=126768.0 
by the way, be careful when you remove the stock IOH cooler.  Mine was pretty much stuck to the board.  I had to yank it off with a set of pliers.  Upon taking it off, part of the problem was clearly apparent.  There was enough silicon grease (or should I say hardened cement) to drown an elephant.   The grease must be the cheapest kind you can find because it had caked up into a thick layer of plastic and I had to scrape off heavy scabs.  I wish I had taken a picture.
Once you do this upgrade, all of us should send the $50 bill to MSI.  They should give all of us MSI X58 Pro uses a $50 rebate for selling us a Lemon.

So far, not any X58 Pro boards have burned up an X58 (IOH) that I've read about. 72c is well below the 100c limit, so those that choose not to redo the heatsinks need not panic as long as sustained full loads are below 100c.
Out of the 3 X58 Pros I've helped build, no 'Lemons' noted among them. Just started build #4. I would say your 3.8 on the CPU & 1500 on the mem. is pretty decent. The CPU only natively supports 800/1066 memory, so what's the complaint? 1333 & 1600 are 'OC' speeds. Your mem. sticks may be rated 1600, but doubt they are chipped more than 1333.
What was your specific system issue that required a bios update?
Is the X58 Pro-E a 'replacement' board as you call it, or a new introduction board to the line-up? Have you been ignored so far over your 'self proclaimed' lemon?

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  • New x58 pro e board: IOH-temperature

    hi,
    i read lots of postings about high IOH-temperatures of the msi x58 pro mainboard.
    does anyone know values of the IOH-temperature of the new released "msi x58 pro e" board?
    they talk about a modified thermal-system, but there seems to be no concrete information about the
    IOH-temperatures...
    bye,
    whoopi

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    i don't understand why msi didn't fix this problem with the new release...
    What is the 'industry' standard for IOH idle temp? Not asking to stir up an argument, just want an official note or spec from the manufacturer of the chip, Intel, what is an acceptable idle min./max. temp.
    With the 4 Pro boards I've helped build, 1-72c, 1-74c, 1-82c, & 1-86c. We 'reset' all four boards heatsinks, however, the 72c & 74c probably wasn't necessary. My personal Eclipse Plus runs 74c, & unless it increases a significant amount over time, I will be leaving it alone. (All temps listed were idle). None of them exceeded 10c over idle at full load, so technically, even the 86c +10c was still within spec.
    For a look at what Intel does say, take a peek at the links in post; https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=127551.0
    Added: After two weeks runtime, the IOH idle temp 'dropped' from 74c to 64c. No additional fans or modifications were performed.

  • IOH temps higher after new CPU cooler on my X58 Pro

    Hi
    I have a X58 Pro with 12GB OCZ Platinum 1333 RAM + i7 920 + Antec EA500W. The stock cooler was making too much noise so I installed a new Thermaltake ISG 300 cooler. My IOH temps jumped from 57 to 82C on idle. I have an Antec Solo case which should have good airflow. Nothing else changed ....
    thanks
    -D

    I have seen other boards with similar big coolers (albeit from other companies like Zalman) but the IOH wasnt this hot. I will definitely try the Spotcool and see if that works. My goal was to simply get rid of the loud noise of the stock cooler.
    Quote from: Henry on 01-December-09, 11:35:59
    Looking at other manufacturers X58 boards those heat sinks don't appear to be much different so how is it that MSI is the only one you need to feel that way. You make a modification then you need to think about the other things that mod may have an effect on. There are other coolers that would have done the job without affecting designed airflow by much if any. If you change the designed airflow characteristics then you must compensate for that. In that case an Antec Spotcool would do it.

  • Where can I get an original x58 Pro-E IOH chipset heatsink assy?

    Recently built an i7 gaming rig and like everyone else had high nb temps which I'm not very keen on.
    I had a Thermalright HR-05 from another build (took it out of my old system and replaced it with the original HS and sold that PC leaving me with it) that I'll use on the nb, but covering the sb will be difficult since I'm running 2 4870 cards in the pci-e slots, covering the sb and not being able to move the cards to free space above it. I don't really want to get something too fancy for the sb (the sli version of the nb cooler) as it doesn't seem to get hot.
    I was thinking along the lines of using the HR-05 for the nb, cutting up the heat-pipe of the original chip-set HS and just using it on the sb as temps and clearance will be fine. Problem of course is if ever need to rma the board, I'm screwed. I've read all the posts about issues with the hot IOH temps and solutions, and this is the way I'll think I'll go.
    Currently my temps are up around 90 on load, and that's in winter! It's around 10 C in my room right now and when summer comes around with 30 C that's gonna shoot up!
    Long story short, does anybody know where I can get an original X58 Pro-E IOH heatsink assy that I can keep safe in case I need it (touch wood) 

    I have thought about that, saw it under some suggestions to fix high temps. But they have that shoved toward the NB. My HR-05 will take care of the NB (plus some serious OC in sumemr which i want to do) I just need a HS for the southbridge , and it seems that the only HS that has enough clearance and fits into the MB with long cards in xfire or sli is the original SB HS, which leaves me wanting to cut the orginal HS up to reuse on the SB and finding another complete HS just in case.

  • X58 PRO NO BOOT AFTER IOH HEAT FIX.

    Hello everyone, I have a strange problem with my x58 platinum setup after fixing the heat issue with the ioh.
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    I had ioh idle temps in the 70c range and near 80c at load so I read the threads in the forum and carefully removed
    the heatsinks. cleaned off the hard white and dry tmi. Reapplied correct thermal compound. Plugged everything back in and when I turned it on all I got was a quick hdd light blink and no post,no display. I might have mixed up the order of the sata drives on the board so i've tried to switch them all to other ports and to no avail.
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    out of order. The system was a little touchy but for the most part stable and working fine before fixed the ioh.
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    Well, tried all sata combos that I could out of the drives and no results. To answer your question earlier. the black ring is in tact under the heatsink and I did not see any tim overflow to the surrounding area. Also it doesn't even
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  • X58 Pro - IOH Temperature - HELP! Bios?

    Hello everyone... well after a number of years with a "regular" computer.... I have jumped back into an old hobby and bought an I-BuyPower PC as follows:
    Processor & Memory:   Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 920 (2.66GHz) 8MB Intel Smart Cache   6GB DDR3-1333 memory (2GB x 3) Triple ChannelMotherboard:   Intel X58 chipset mainboard Drives:500GB (7,200 RPM) SATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive 22x max DVD±RW drive with Double Layer SupportGraphics:   1GB NVIDIA® GeForce® 9400 GT graphics 1 x DVI, 1 x S-Video, 1 x VGA out   No monitor includedCommunications: Gigabit Ethernet LAN - 650 Watt Power Supply - Front fan, side 120 fan, rear 120 fan....
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    2. Would flashing the BIOS help drop the IOH Temperature?  Is it a bug? 
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    Two of the X58 Pro's I've helped build were also 72c at idle. In retrospect, resetting the heatsinks probably wasn't necessary, but did it anyway. If you decide to do that, & don't want to re-use the stock plastic pins, nylon (thermal) bolts, washers, & nuts can be obtained from a few different sources. Hardware manufacturers or stores, hobby shops that cater to remote control aircraft etc. As deep33 suggested, the spot cooler is a good way to go too.
    The heatsink hole size is 1/8" .125 U.S., 3.18mm. Length of about 1/2" (1cm?) does nicely. Depends on the height of the standoffs.
    Edit: The hardware size I used is #4-40, 1/2" in length. (3mmx1cm? metric?)

  • Tightening my CPU cooler on X58 Pro-E causes me to lose 2gb of RAM memory

    I have a Corsair Dominator 6gb kit for my X58 Pro-e. I noticed yesterday that I was only getting 4gb and did a lot of research to find the problem. Turns out that when I loosened my Corsair H50 cooler, I would get 6gb but my temperatures would be higher. The tightest I can adjust my CPU H50 cooler to allow me to get all 6gb would increase my temperatures from 4-6c. Not a huge difference but I havent even overclocked my machine yet.
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    MSI informed me that they found nothing wrong with the board. This is ridiculous.
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    In addition to that:  There are two parts involved in the connection:  the CPU Socket and the processor.  Maybe it is your CPU that reacts "over-sensible" in this particular scenario. Have you thought about that?

  • X58 pro-e trying to understand a few things please help me out.

    first of all hi 
    im trying to overclock my cpu to a nice place and in my mind its 4ghz  and in my mind its like use 22X200=4ghz=happy me
    now realty is when i do that and leave every thing on auto the MB puts too much volts on the V.core like 1.4+ and thats bad for me i do have a good cooler thermaltake frio  220w
    so i tried lowering Blck and stuff and i googled stuff and ended up with a good 21X175 with 0 on the V.core only to download a program named cpu-tweaker and nehalemcalc so bare with me the question is coming  so i setup the nehalemcalc to 225X21 qpi multi X18 Uncore multi X12 mem multi X6
    only to get a warning saying (instability may occur when QPI clock is greater than 4000MHz) and it got me wondering how much did i set my Multi`s so i went and checked but i did not find them in the cell menu so i opened the cop-twaeker   to look some stuff up  and i found
    21X175=good i put that there
    7x7x7x19=ram timing good too i put them my self
    Uncore X16= bad read under
    QPI X18= good after i read in 4.8 mode its set to X18
    RAM X3 = i guess its good i put it there too
    so i opened up the nehalemcalc 1.3 and used these numbers i found only to read some thing i did not find in cell menu mem multi witch was 6 as minimal
    number in the program so whats wrong here how come its giving me deferent numbers in the 2 programs and in cpu-z its showing FSB:Dram  2:6
    so where do i find adjust that ratio found in the cpu-z or the uncore multi for that matter !
    sorry i know its crazy but i really think  thats why i cant go pass the 4Ghz dream BTW i need to add Volts to the cpu as from 3.8  :( so it just might help
    out to know every thing to know about this motherboard
    my system specc`s are :
    core i7 920 d0
    X58 pro-e
    gtx260
    1TBx2 wd
    2x3 transcend jetram 1333
    thremaltake frio
    custom cooler for the IOH(cheap fan on the heatsink :P )

    Quote from: HU16E on 10-March-11, 08:41:31
    Everything should be fine as long as the recommended max. voltages aren't exceeded. Lots of trial & error involved, within safe limits of course.
    Added:I hope that 4.00 is the CPU speed & not the volts applied.
      stop loling @ me  come please i have a dead time on the rams if i dont like them i can return them 
    so it is the cpu speed the 4k yes so pleaseeeeeee tell me what kind of volts i should use with this setup lets say 3.8ghz and i know every cpu has its own vlots and all but i need like a refrance that i can work on lets say 3.8ghz needs 1.2v on the v,core 1.5v on ram 1.2 on qpi and so on .. so for 4ghz i need 1.3v,ram1.5,qpi...... some thing easy like that    and if it works i will  for you sir 

  • MSI Pro E high IOH?

    As with most people, I seem to be having a high IOH temperature at idle. temperature was monitored with BIOS, and with HWMonitor.
    relevant hardware would be the MSI X58 Pro E, 920 d0, Corsair H50 heatsink, Antec P193 case with two 1200rpm slipstreams up front.
    Before I installed the OS, I decided to head into the BIOS to get the fans setup (had to make sure the impeller maintained full RPM), and noticed that the IOH was sitting idle at 82ºC. Decided to let it run about 20 mins before checking it again, and the IOH still stayed up around 82ºC. Took the side panel off to take a look around (no interference noticed, all air had a nice flow) for about 10 mins, and the IOH soared up to 92ºC. Apparently, the side fan works quite well in keeping the IOH down...
    Installed XP and ran a few long videos while watching core temps and IOH, stayed within 80-82ºC. Have not tried anything that was graphics intensive as of yet (keeping it offline until I can sort out the IOH).
    I have seen the threads with the modifications to attach an aftermarket heatsink for the IOH, but I'd rather use that as a last resort (thermal paste falls within this as well, I'd rather not have to extract everything out of the case)... Others appear to have used small fans, but I'm not quite clear how they were mounted (if anyone can shed light on that one, i'd be quite thankful).
    thanks for any help!

    Sorry for the double post, bu update on the system:
    went through almost ALL the computer stores beside campus (literally an entire street of computer parts), starting from the furthest to the closest... and the last one (closest to campus) has the spot cool. no other store had any 40mms in stock, OR the spot cool....
    Anyway, mounted the spotcool to the PCI holes off the back of the case, and it allowed me to push the spot cool right up against the heatsink (tried your mount location HU16E, temps rose slightly, but i already took off the Kama middle fan. plus it lightly scratched the paint off of the mobo in that corner, little metalic colour showing through... anything i can use to cover that back up?).
    Initial results appear to be good, with temps around 64ºC after about 15 mins. The fan's blue lights though, are of a slightly different shade compared against the motherboard + GPU cooler, but its not too noticable.

  • Quick Short Test & Review of X58 PRO-E

    Here is an upgrade version to the entry level X58PRO motherboard that MSI has to offer before. Model name is “X58PRO-E” and this was introduced to solve the High IOH Temp that other users encountered before with the X58 Pro. The chipset & VRM heatsinks are now screwed on the board thus making a good contact for better & fast heat dissipation. Don’t get worried  also for the price because this would be still around 10k PHP and if paired with a good i7 920 processor (priced around 13-14k PHP) you will own a system which would be great for video editing, graphics processing & gaming as well (SLI or Crossfire can be done on this motherboard ^^ ). On the other hand, if you are an overclocker like me. It is very easy for the board to overclock the i7 920 to 4ghz at a minimal voltage increase and few bios tweaking.
    So here is a shot of the box and its contents
    •Four Sata Cables
    •One IDE Cable
    •Two Molex to SATA power Adapters
    •1x Cross Fire Bridge
    •Front Panel header labels
    •Driver & Extras CD
    •User manuals & Backplate
    Features
    •Support for Core i7 LGA1366 CPUs at 4.8-6.4GT/s QPI
    •Intel X58 northbridge and ICH10R southbridge
    •Six 1.5V DDR3 DIMM slots supporting up to 24GB of memory
    •One Realtek RTL8111C Gigabit Ethernet controllers
    •Three PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots (x16/x16/x4)
    •Two PCI-EXpress x1 slots
    •Two PCI slots
    •Seven SATA II ports - six from Intel ICH10R (supporting Intel Matrix RAID 0, 1, 10, 5 and JBOD), one from JMicron JMB363
    •One IDE port supporting one device from JMicron JMB363
    •One eSATA port from JMicron JMB363
    •Ten USB 2.0 ports - six on rear I/O, four via pin-outs
    •JMicron JMB381 IEEE1394a Firewire supporting two ports - one via pin-out, one on the rear I/O
    •Realtek ALC888S 7.1 Channel High-Definition audio codec
    Layout & I/O Ports
    Black heatsink screw design. Three well placed PCIE (x16/x16/x4) slots which won’t give any users a problem installing three dual-slot video cards. You will also find below the Easy OC Switch sticker are the Easy Power/Reset/ Clear Cmos Buttons & beside them is the OC Switch.
    On the rear you will find 6 USB Ports, Firewire port, E-SATA, SPDIF Out , PS2 for KB & Mouse, Gigabit LAN & lastly 7.1 audio ports.
    BIOS
    I only took pictures of the Cell Menu because this is the most important part of the bios especially in overclocking. This is where you will tweak your system.
    CPU Specifications
    Memory Specifications
    More Memory Options for Tweaking
    Voltages
    This is where you can save all your overclock or tweak settings
    Test Setup
    •Intel Core i7 920 C0
    •G Skill Trident 2000 CAS9 1.65V
    •MSI 4770
    •FSP 800 watts PSU
    •Seagate 500GB SATA
    •Windows Vista Ultimate 64BIT SP2
    Below are quick short tests on how good the board can handle high memory clock speeds even though in the manual it only says there that the highest OC for the memory speed is up to 1600mhz only for the motherboard.
    G Skil lTridents 1600 6-7-6-18 TRFC60 1.58V
    G Skill Tridents 1866 7-8-7-20 TRFC65 1.60V
    G Skill Tridents 2000 8-9-8-20 TRFC80 1.65V
    Tridents 2100 9-9-9-24 TRFC88 1.72V
    I was able to get a good bclock 222 also with the i7 920 C0 I have. I guess if I used a D0 stepping instead , I can push the bclock higher.
    Final Thoughts & Conclusion
    I was very impressed on the capabilities of this entry level X58 motherboard can do. A few tweaks on the cell menu I was able to get high memory clocks and all were stable. You would also notice on one of my shots running the memory @ 2100mhz, my uncore ratio turned to a high of 4200mhz speed. All of these were done all on air. 
    Pros :
    - Cheap Entry level X58 Board
    - Easy to overclock
    - Support SLI and Crossfire
    - No issue on Bigger aftermarket CPU cooler
    - 90 degrees placement of SATA & IDE ports
    Cons :
    - No SLI Bridge included in the Box

    Quote from: Dankirk2 on 03-August-09, 12:04:05
    I wish mine were that low...  I just built a machine with the X58 Pro-E, all stock, no overclock.  Mine idled at around 80c.  I removed the heatsinks, scraped off the pink gummy stuff they used, put on new thermal paste, and reattached using two red fiber washers at each screw to increase the heatsink pressure on the chips.  It now idles at around 66c.  It is much better, but still not near the 50c that you're seeing.  I wonder why?  My case is an Antec Nine Hundred Two, with great airflow.  I also moved my video card down a slot so the cips weren't covered.
    Can someone else using the X58Pro-E board post their IOH temps as I want to change out my X58 Pro board before summer arrives.
    I am not prepared to attempt to remove the heat sink and if other people are still getting 80c IOH temps, which is what I am getting and it is winter here at the moment, then it will be a waste of time me paying to have my board replaced.

  • X58 Pro freezes machine

    I recently bought an X58 Pro mb on newegg, along with a i7 920 CPU, Corsair 3x2gb kit (recommended for this mb from Corsair's website), and a Sapphire Radeon 4870 HD (1gb model). After putting everything together, it booted up fine and installed Windows just fine. However, the entire system seems to freeze randomly anywhere from 5min to 3 days after it's turned on. By freezing, I mean that the mouse/keyboard freezes and even the clock; the only way around it is to hard boot. I'm not seeing anything in event viewer other than the last restart was unexpected. Other weird things that have happened although not as frequently: machine freezes and the image on the screen gets distorted, system reboots on its own.
    Here is what I've tried so far:
    1. Called up Corsair to see what they recommend as far as settings. They told me that all I needed to do was Load Fail-safe Defaults, and then make sure that XMP was enabled (keep everything as default/auto). That fixed the issue for about 2 days, until it froze again.
    2. Ran Microsoft Memory Diagnostics and it's showing that all RAM is good. The tests took about 3 hours to complete and the machine never froze/locked up during that time.
    3. Contacted MSI and they suggested to replace the power supply. I had a 550watt PS and replaced it with a 585watt PS that I knew was good (SLI supported). Still had instability issues.
    My next step is to RMA the mb and video card with Newegg, but thought I'd post this to see if there is anything else I can try before doing that.

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    Corsair said that setting the Failsafe Defaults and setting XMP to enabled should work.
    As I said before, XMP Settings (DDR3-1600/CL8) are overclocking settings, not default settings.  Corsair does not (actually cannot) reallly guarantee that these settings are stable.  To point that out, I quoted the standard note that Corsair has put into the datasheet for your modules.
    The native settings (industry standard settings) for your modules are DDR3-1333 @9-9-9-24 @1.5 +/- 0.075V.  I already provided you with a link to the datasheet which lists these parameters. That is why I suggested to use these.  Have you tried these settings yet?
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    It seems like the BIOS settings for their RAM is a trade secret and heavily guarded
    Not really.  They are in the datasheet.
    If the DDR3-1333 settings do not change anything, reduce the memory clock speed to DDR3-1066.  That is the maximum clock speed the memory controller of your processor natively supports (according to Intel Specifications).
    Please keep Spread Spectrum disabled at all times.
    Quote
    Does anyone know what settings in the BIOS I have to set so the RAM runs at 1.5v?
    The JEDEC Standard SPD Settings for your memory modules are in the Corsair Datasheet. I have already pointed them out twice.
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    Also I've noticed that the IOH temperature has been running around 60 - 70 degrees C.
    The maximum allowable temperature for the IOH is around 100°C (according to Intel Specs).  As long as the temperature stays below that value, there should be no functional issues.  To double check:  Point an extra fan to the IOH heatsink to provide additional cooling and see if that changes anything.
    One more thing:
    What is your current BIOS Version?

  • My 1st MSI i7 x58 pro experience and issues

    I got a MSI X58 Pro + i7 920 D0 + Corsair 1600-CL8 RAM (non dominator) + Win7 Ultimate/Linux. I could never run it at 1600. It was quite flaky. Then I bought some cheaper 1333-CL7 ram from ocz. Has given me less pains. Its stable at stock. I have a antec solo case with an antec earthwatts 500W. BIOS version is 7.3. Have a nvidia low end card.
    Issues
    * However, I cant still raise BCLK to 155+ ... get blue screens in Win7. I disabled spread spectrum.
    * IOH temps are 58C on idle!!!
    * Computer doesnt go to sleep in Win 7.
    Compare that with a bunch of builds with UD4P from G. IOH at 47C and I can just set the BCLK at 166 and forget it ... everything runs without a snag .... and all of them behave the same way. I used 1333-CL9 RAM on those no issues at all. Am wondering whats wrong with this board (or the model in general). Is this a less stable board from MSI, compared to the other models.
    What am I doing wrong?

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    * IOH temps are 58C on idle!!!
    Your IOH temp is fine. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=129940.0 Are you using the stock CPU cooler or aftermarket?
    Quote
    * However, I cant still raise BCLK to 155+ ... get blue screens in Win7.
    What are the error codes?
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    * Computer doesnt go to sleep in Win 7.
    Recommend first, update bios to version 8.6 using the forum's USB Flash Tool. Contact MSI Tech. Support if this doesn't resolve the sleep issue.

  • Building new system, MSI X58 Pro-E, i7 920, GTX 295, 6gb, Thermalright e-120

    Hello, I was hoping for some advice on this rig, to overclock or not, etc; Im a bug gamer, so its really about gaming to the max 1st,
    Heres the brand new parts;
    MSI X58 Pro-E (In the box, just arrived, do not know bios yet)
    i7 920
    Patriot Extreme Viper PVT36G1600ELK 6GB DDR3 9-9-9-24
    eVGA GTX295 1792mb CO-OP edition
    Thermalright extreme e-120 cpu cooler (Jesus that thing is huge)
    Im going to re-use this stuff:
    2x500gb seagate HDD sata raid 0 for performance
    Antec 900 case Lots of fans...nice
    DVD RW
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