X58 PRO-E BSOD

Hi All, i am a toal n00b to the i7 setup's and related hardware oshere goes.
Spec:
CPU : Core i7 92o D0 stepping at 2.66
Memory : 3 x 2048 DDR3 1333, Apacer Modules
Board : MSI X58 PRO-E
HDD's : 1x WD 120 black Caviar 1x WD 160 black Caviar
DVD\R rom : LG multi 20x
Cooling : Standard Boxed intel cooler, spot fan for NB(old server fan very loud HIGH rpm)
GFX : ATI R4850 with bios mod for cooiling.
PSU : 450Watt
Temps: CPU idle 20C - load 45C , NB 50C - 75C+/-, GFX 52 - &)
Bios is set to stock standard not edited cept for Boot sequence.
OS Vista 32Bit / Windows 7 64bit Ultimate Trial
Ok so what happens is every 5th or so reboot my PC BSOD's, it reckons its mem, so i have swapped memory around, tried individual modules,
i have run every known CPU/Mem/MB testing tool under the sun.
I noticed that ever so often after a boot it posts that i only have 4gigs of memory, then when i go into the bios it shows all three 2gig modules?
Is there something i am missing, do i have to set the corrct frequency's for my mem in bios?
Any suggestions are GREATLY welcome.
PS. I am a Server/PC tech od 10 years or so and i have never come across this before?
Only thing i havent done is run linux on it ...mabey i should run it for a couble of days and see if i get any kernel panic's??

Quote from: Henry on 12-September-09, 07:38:25
That ends up +12V total 29 amp (348W divided by 12+ = 29A) so no good for your system.
 Minimum PSU for system with 4850 card would be +12V~30A. Corsair VX450W +12V~33A would be minimum in my opinion but VX550W +12V~41 really would be better for less stress and longer life on the PSU. Any of the higher powered Corsairs TX650 +12V~52A, 750 +12V~60A, 850+12V~70A if you might need more power later on and 750W/850W for Crossfire/SLI.
 PC P & C Silencers in the same power range shown for the Corsairs are very good also but tend to cost a little more. The PSU transdogmifier shows is really quite a bit more amps (+12V amps same as Corsair TX750W) than you really need for current use.
 I'm currently running on my Sony system w/Corsair VX450W 115W CPU with the MSI N250GTS which shows minimum +12V~32A for system. I really should have a VX550W for but don't have the $$$ and the VX450W is doing OK for now.
Henry, you're right about more than I needed....I shouldn't have purchased it, but I was tired of having to upgrade the PSU everytime I upgraded the Computer.
Decided to try to future proof it a bit.
Edit: btw, OP....the Corsair units Henry is suggesting are really nice PSU's...and I would say he's spot on about at least the 550...Personally I'd go for the 650W, but that's me.

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    out to know every thing to know about this motherboard
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    Quote from: HU16E on 10-March-11, 08:41:31
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  • X58 Pro a Lemon? IOH cooling insufficient.

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    So far, not any X58 Pro boards have burned up an X58 (IOH) that I've read about. 72c is well below the 100c limit, so those that choose not to redo the heatsinks need not panic as long as sustained full loads are below 100c.
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    •One IDE Cable
    •Two Molex to SATA power Adapters
    •1x Cross Fire Bridge
    •Front Panel header labels
    •Driver & Extras CD
    •User manuals & Backplate
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    •Intel X58 northbridge and ICH10R southbridge
    •Six 1.5V DDR3 DIMM slots supporting up to 24GB of memory
    •One Realtek RTL8111C Gigabit Ethernet controllers
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    •Two PCI slots
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    •One IDE port supporting one device from JMicron JMB363
    •One eSATA port from JMicron JMB363
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    •JMicron JMB381 IEEE1394a Firewire supporting two ports - one via pin-out, one on the rear I/O
    •Realtek ALC888S 7.1 Channel High-Definition audio codec
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    Black heatsink screw design. Three well placed PCIE (x16/x16/x4) slots which won’t give any users a problem installing three dual-slot video cards. You will also find below the Easy OC Switch sticker are the Easy Power/Reset/ Clear Cmos Buttons & beside them is the OC Switch.
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    Memory Specifications
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    Voltages
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    •G Skill Trident 2000 CAS9 1.65V
    •MSI 4770
    •FSP 800 watts PSU
    •Seagate 500GB SATA
    •Windows Vista Ultimate 64BIT SP2
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    G Skill Tridents 1866 7-8-7-20 TRFC65 1.60V
    G Skill Tridents 2000 8-9-8-20 TRFC80 1.65V
    Tridents 2100 9-9-9-24 TRFC88 1.72V
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    - Easy to overclock
    - Support SLI and Crossfire
    - No issue on Bigger aftermarket CPU cooler
    - 90 degrees placement of SATA & IDE ports
    Cons :
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    Quote from: Dankirk2 on 03-August-09, 12:04:05
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    -D

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