X58 Pro - IOH Temperature - HELP! Bios?

Hello everyone... well after a number of years with a "regular" computer.... I have jumped back into an old hobby and bought an I-BuyPower PC as follows:
Processor & Memory:   Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 920 (2.66GHz) 8MB Intel Smart Cache   6GB DDR3-1333 memory (2GB x 3) Triple ChannelMotherboard:   Intel X58 chipset mainboard Drives:500GB (7,200 RPM) SATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive 22x max DVD±RW drive with Double Layer SupportGraphics:   1GB NVIDIA® GeForce® 9400 GT graphics 1 x DVI, 1 x S-Video, 1 x VGA out   No monitor includedCommunications: Gigabit Ethernet LAN - 650 Watt Power Supply - Front fan, side 120 fan, rear 120 fan....
The Board is an MSI X-58 Pro...
After startup and install of basic software, I ran the Overclock software and noticed my IOH Temp is 72 at idle... CPU is only 28....
SOOOO....
1. Can someone tell me the "range" that each of the three temperatures should be....
2. Would flashing the BIOS help drop the IOH Temperature?  Is it a bug? 
My sincere thanks in advance for any help!!!!

Two of the X58 Pro's I've helped build were also 72c at idle. In retrospect, resetting the heatsinks probably wasn't necessary, but did it anyway. If you decide to do that, & don't want to re-use the stock plastic pins, nylon (thermal) bolts, washers, & nuts can be obtained from a few different sources. Hardware manufacturers or stores, hobby shops that cater to remote control aircraft etc. As deep33 suggested, the spot cooler is a good way to go too.
The heatsink hole size is 1/8" .125 U.S., 3.18mm. Length of about 1/2" (1cm?) does nicely. Depends on the height of the standoffs.
Edit: The hardware size I used is #4-40, 1/2" in length. (3mmx1cm? metric?)

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