[xfce 4.10] How to change toolbar icon size?

The toolbar icons in thunar and browsers (Firefox/Chromium) are too big on my small netbook screen. It seems to use 24x24 size now.
I found the entry in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml
    <property name="IconSizes" type="empty"/>
    <property name="ToolbarIconSize" type="empty"/>
What value can I put into this to change the toolbar icons smaller?

What exactly is the toolbar? But I think you can change all the sizes in preferences.

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